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[frankf43]

No it's not, but it shouldn't be a requirement regardless. It's just poor designing and laziness on Bioware's part. 

Believe me what ever new games you get at the moment you are going to need internet to patch the bugs out of it.

 

 

I'm not sure, but even requiring an internet connection is unacceptable for such a feature. 

 

 

 

I'd rather have an occasional choice bug, that no imports at all. But all of that is irrelevant because Dragon Age Keep, or some version of it, could've been included on the game.

 

 

And how do I get this customization onto my xbox when I have no ethernet cable plug-ins in my room and do not want to buy a wireless adapter for my xbox?

 

 

 

Carry the box to the router and plug it in there. Download the Keep content and take it back to your room. I would also suggest downloading the patches as they improve the game's stability.

[frankf43]

Wait.. are you saying you have to have Xbox live as in the paid subscription? Or just a Internet connection and the free xbox live account?

You don't pay for live but you do pay for Gold which allows you to play MP.

[theluc76]

I remember the days I had consoles, pop the game in, sit on the couch and play.

 

Consoles are not worth it anymore.

 

And games, 2014 for games was really a bad year, only a few did shine.

 

The fact console users need a connection to shape the DA world state is ridiculous (even for PC) a simple app before the game starts could have been done.

[Kantr]

I remember the days I had consoles, pop the game in, sit on the couch and play.

 

Consoles are not worth it anymore.

 

And games, 2014 for games was really a bad year, only a few did shine.

 

The fact console users need a connection to shape the DA world state is ridiculous (even for PC) a simple app before the game starts could have been done.

How would you update it for more decisions?

[DarkAmaranth1966]

I'm sure, given time the modders will create a jibbed Keep generator, just as we had a jibbed DAO save generator for DA2.

[Sylvius the Mad]

And how do I get this customization onto my xbox when I have no ethernet cable plug-ins in my room and do not want to buy a wireless adapter for my xbox?

Are you not able to move your console briefly, or run a long cable?

[JaegerBane]

I remember the days I had consoles, pop the game in, sit on the couch and play.
 

*sigh*

I hear this kind of stuff all the time. Everyone always remembers being able to chuck a disk in and sit back but you never hear anyone wistfully recalling the joy of not being able to patch anything, 640x480 blur-o-vision, no easy way to produce expansions and release date misses that were the norm. Modern gaming may have brought with it a few niggles but whining about it being too complicated because you need an Internet connection to record what you did over the previous two games in a series is silly.

[Rosey]

We knew all of this a year ago.... All games these days require at least SOME basic internet access. For patches, for authentication, for ONLINE PLAY.

 

DAI is one of the LEAST internet heavy reliant games right now. Don't have internet access for your xbox? Well, you'll be playing the default world and an unpatched game. This isn't new information. As I stated above, we've known about it for about a year now. Ignorance to the information given does not make you exempt from it. Taking a moment to talk with the people at the store, or a 4 second google search could have given you that info.

 

"But multiplayer!" .... it's called Multiplayer. Meaning multiple players. If it didn't require an online connection, it'd be called Co-op. It's not EA/Bioware's fault that Microsoft requires you to pay them to access the servers. That's not a new concept. In fact, complaining about it being a thing you'd have to do - is the same as buying Destiny and then getting mad because you can't play it with out a Gold Account.

 

Xbox requires you to have a gold account to access online content.

 

DAI requires you to have access to the internet in order to access the initial Keep upload, but does -not- require a Gold account. It just requires an online connection to go "EY, here's your stuff from the keep, have fun! Also, feel free to have these patches too!"

[In Exile]

Are you not able to move your console briefly, or run a long cable?

I much prefer a wired connection to a wireless one. Not only is it IMO more secure, but I find my connection is more stable in download speed.

[InfinitePaths]

Wait...you're saying that it is a bad design decision to put a feature on the internet in 2014?

 

hahahaha...lol.

[Emu8207]

I am in agreement with the OP. I like the idea of a Dragon Keep but those not online are kinda screwed. I wish they would've given us the option to port our saves over from DA2 even if they fail, at least have the option there and if it does fail, reference the keep.

[AlanC9]

Don't have internet access for your xbox? Well, you'll be playing the default world and an unpatched game.

The italed strikes me as being the more serious issue. How many games have there been in the last few years that were borderline unplayable unpatched? Does the OP just put up with the release versions forever?

[AlanC9]

I am in agreement with the OP. I like the idea of a Dragon Keep but those not online are kinda screwed. I wish they would've given us the option to port our saves over from DA2 even if they fail, at least have the option there and if it does fail, reference the keep.

"Fail" is confused thinking. The problem with the DA2 saves isn't that they would crash the system or something, the problem is that some of the important save flags were just plain wrong.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I much prefer a wired connection to a wireless one. Not only is it IMO more secure, but I find my connection is more stable in download speed.

My entire home network is wireless. It's just not feasible for me to run that much cable.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I agree that it was annoying. They could have included a few default world-states or the keep in the actual game. Mind you in the end it doesn't matter anyway, your choices in the prior games really don't matter in this game so you are best off just playing from the crappy world-state they give you.

 

The actual problem with the Keep for me is that they want me to create a crappy Origin account, use my PSN email address and all just to link a world-state to Inquisition that changes a few lines of character dialogue. Not worth the hassle IMO and something this simple should have been implemented in-game.

 

Your first mistake was buying it on console.

 

Well after hearing about its problems on the PC I think he made the right choice.

 

What point is there in buying the game on PC when it has worst controls and its not even moddable?

 

 

Believe me what ever new games you get at the moment you are going to need internet to patch the bugs out of it.

 

 

 

What games are you playing? Skyrim and Unity?

 

All the games I've played this year have been playable at release. Dark Souls 2, Divinity Original Sin, Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor, Dragon Age: Inquisition on PS4...I played all of these without running into any bugs and the bugs I heard of them having were minor and still allowed the games to be beaten (although with Middle Earth and Dark Souls 2, I don't remember hearing of any bugs for those, although DkS2 had a few hilarious glitches that eventually got patched).

 

Ubisoft and Bethesda do not reflect the whole game industry, it's time people stop trying to justify the **** they release.

[JaegerBane]

I much prefer a wired connection to a wireless one. Not only is it IMO more secure, but I find my connection is more stable in download speed.

Swings and roundabouts. Wireless is always less secure but realistically if that's you're concern, you're far more likely to get whacked via malware etc then someone hopping onto your network illegitimately. It's relatively easy to secure your network with enough beef to deter anyone casual bandwidth hoggers.

'Course, this is all neither here nor there - importing a world state from the Keep requires Internet infrastructure that has existed for a decade and probably less than what it took for him to rant on the forum.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Swings and roundabouts. Wireless is always less secure but realistically if that's you're concern, you're far more likely to get whacked via malware etc then someone hopping onto your network illegitimately. It's relatively easy to secure your network with enough beef to deter anyone casual bandwidth hoggers.

Yeah, unless you're worried about the Feds outside your door trying to listen in as you access the Tor network, I don't see the risk.

[MonkeyLungs]

It would be sort of cool if a slimmed down version of DA Keep was available on the game disc. Or even just a list of plot flags with check boxes ...

 

That said, I REALLY like the DA Keep and think it was an awesome thing to add to the experience. The fact that Varric narrates for us is seriously icing on a pretty cool cake.

[frankf43]

I agree that it was annoying. They could have included a few default world-states or the keep in the actual game. Mind you in the end it doesn't matter anyway, your choices in the prior games really don't matter in this game so you are best off just playing from the crappy world-state they give you.

 

The actual problem with the Keep for me is that they want me to create a crappy Origin account, use my PSN email address and all just to link a world-state to Inquisition that changes a few lines of character dialogue. Not worth the hassle IMO and something this simple should have been implemented in-game.

 

 

Well after hearing about its problems on the PC I think he made the right choice.

 

What point is there in buying the game on PC when it has worst controls and its not even moddable?

 

 

 

 

What games are you playing? Skyrim and Unity?

 

All the games I've played this year have been playable at release. Dark Souls 2, Divinity Original Sin, Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor, Dragon Age: Inquisition on PS4...I played all of these without running into any bugs and the bugs I heard of them having were minor and still allowed the games to be beaten (although with Middle Earth and Dark Souls 2, I don't remember hearing of any bugs for those, although DkS2 had a few hilarious glitches that eventually got patched).

 

Ubisoft and Bethesda do not reflect the whole game industry, it's time people stop trying to justify the **** they release.

How many of those had day one patches though that loaded before you started the game? I know for a fact that DA:I and SoM had day one patches the other two I haven't played.

[DemGeth]

Not sure what you mean by worst controls on the pc, it has full controller support should you not want to use keyboard.

[AlanC9]

The actual problem with the Keep for me is that they want me to create a crappy Origin account, use my PSN email address and all just to link a world-state to Inquisition that changes a few lines of character dialogue. Not worth the hassle IMO and something this simple should have been implemented in-game.

Didn't you already have an Origin account? You're posting here, after all.

[AlanC9]

Not sure what you mean by worst controls on the pc, it has full controller support should you not want to use keyboard.

Right. If someone can't stand controllers, the console version isn't going to be an option anyway. I fall into that group myself; doesn't bother me since I don't really see much of a problem with the PC controls.

[TheJiveDJ]

 

I'm not sure, but even requiring an internet connection is unacceptable for such a feature. 

 

 

 

I'd rather have an occasional choice bug, that no imports at all. But all of that is irrelevant because Dragon Age Keep, or some version of it, could've been included on the game.

 

 

And how do I get this customization onto my xbox when I have no ethernet cable plug-ins in my room and do not want to buy a wireless adapter for my xbox?

 

As other posters have pointed out... you seem to have some sort of internet connection. Seems like ur issue is that you don`t have a wireless router. I would suggest purchasing one... this would solve ur problem... if that ain't an option, then you`re SOL unless u can hardwire your xbox temporarily and import ur worldstate that way.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

You can have a free Silver account. Granted the Silver Accounts suck. The gold accounts are only $50 a year. That's less than one latte a month. Plus you can use it to stream movies, TV programs, watch ESPN, etc. You don't even need to subscribe to premium TV station like HBO anymore.

 

With DAI, I edited my Keep on my PC. My XBox 360 picked up the link without issue. The graphics aren't XBox One quality, but they're not bad if you set your 360 to 1080p resolution. That sharpens up things quite a bit. You can do that in the settings menu of your 360.

[Sean]

Gaming without internet just seems wrong now.

 

I bought DA:I on the Xbox One just because I like consoles, too.

Consoles seem far more social than PCs where most of the time you are just typing to communicate; I prefer things like party chats, and where I don't need to setup some extra bit of software and organize it within everyone else. It is far simpler to just start up the party app and invite people. I do have a gaming PC (i7-4790k and an R9 290x), but I still prefer consoles in certain situations (for example, I will get the next TES on my PC), and I prefer controllers over keyboard and mouse.

 

 

With all of that said, blame is on your OP for not having your Xbox connected to the internet. The Xbox is branded as an online device, and choosing not to connect to the internet is all on you. Did you know that you can actually tether your phone to the Xbox to serve your internet needs? Dragon Age Keep is a good idea, and it works well with it accesible via the internet, as most things (even household appliances) can connect to the internet these days.

 

 

(note: I say household appliances CAN, not that all do)