i pardoned him because I just wanted to see the ending first time through
but really, the guy murdered a family and then let all his soldiers who followed his orders be tried and hung for it. You can't just walk away from that.
Even worse is the female inquisitor romance i've seen that basically just let him walk because they like him.
Shame on you.
But that's why your first playthrough is never your canon. :-)
Tsk tsk, shame on you but at least you're not alone with that.
My first playthrough was pretty much 'lets-be-all-goody-two-shoe-and-safe-everybody' run because I was afraid the companion approval ratings might effect the ending radically (my Mass Effect 2 ending everybody, I got my whole squad killed in that one. I never forget that ass wooping)
Once I learned they didn't, however, I really stopped give a damn my second run and let Blackwall rot. Lucky to us, game has a good re-play value so you get to see all the sdes if you wanna.
ya it was a well written plot point, made me think alot.
I still think fundamentally he's a good guy, just made a really really bad decision that can't be looked over.
if there was a way to make him drink darkspawn blood and either live or die to become a proper warden would have been a nice option, since ingame that is a way to totally absolve your past actions
if there was a way to make him drink darkspawn blood and either live or die to become a proper warden would have been a nice option, since ingame that is a way to totally absolve your past actions
Oh, yes that! That would've been a choise I would've made if they had give me a chance. Totally forgiving him always felt so wrong but seemed to be the only way to keep him in the party even after the end of the game...
It wouldn't make much sense to make him a warden immediately, given Coryphingy's Warden mind controlling powers
I would never judge anyone for the way they ended up treating Blackwall, but personally I just don't believe capital punishment is a solution. In this case I believe Blackwall has the character to live his life atoning for what he did, which seems far better than for him to simply die. Nor do I see that life as him simply "walking away".
That said, I think handing him to the Wardens would be the best of both worlds for me, there would be more accountability there assuming they let him go through with the Joining. Assuming he'd even live through it, of course.
Of course, I could also be a completely arbitrary judge simply wanting to see Blackwall live because I liked him. That's the danger of being the sole person to pass judgement, I suppose.
If a Warden, Blackwall leaves at some point undefined between Inquisition and the next game: he stays in the end-game, supposedly going to leave "at some point" at your discretion (you can't actually send him away). Just like all the companions, really, with their plans to leave and help Tevinter/Kirkwall/whatever.
Wait what? In my gameplays he just disappears after the end of the game (I can still get him in my party but in Skyhold he's nowhere to be found) if I don't let him lose.
Might be a bug then. Either way, very weird.
Even worse is the female inquisitor romance i've seen that basically just let him walk because they like him.
My Inquisitor romanced him, and arranged for him to be given the the Wardens. (It's understandable that it doesn't happen within the timeframe of the game, given the issues the Wardens are having and the inconvenience of sending the best tank off to possibly die during the Joining.)
She figured it was only fair, since that was what would have happened to him had actual Blackwall not been killed.
I've posted a few times. Its too bad he can't be left in the fade instead of Hawke/Alistair/Stroud/Loghain
Or make him a jester for the Inquisition like the duchess
The more I think about it the more I'm unsure about my decision as well, ha!
At the end of the day it is still the law of the land that would get Blackwall executed, whether I like it or not. Whether we disregard that it was his choice to turn himself in or not, it's probably anything but just to snatch him away from Val Royeaux to be judged by a person (or an organization if you will) that probably shouldn't stand above the laws of the country in which the crime was committed in the first place. Blackwall had a point when he called the inquisition corrupt, I guess.
Pardoning is worst decision here. Even Blackwall thinks its dumb. Wardens is a good option though. Kinda. The old type of Wardens anyway.
This really has to be a very hard decision to make. It is clear that he wasn't a warden from the start. When he talks about recruiting alone. I don't think it is custom for wardens to stick by their selves.
My first playthrough I let him live and let him atone for what he did. My second playthrough I gave him over to the Wardens. My third playthrough I let him rot. If you really don't approve of his actions there is that option not to recruit him at all.
I guess it is about redemption and forgiveness I believe. Should something you did wrong be carried with you your entire life and should you be burden with it.
I did feel a bit of a twinge when he called the Inquisition corrupt... because, yeah, it's a fair point. She may have been motivated by a noble impulse (namely, a fondness for granting second chances and redemption and all that), but ultimately she did pull strings to spare her companion a perfectly just fate.
She reasoned that the Wardens already did this sort of "taking criminals from the gallows" thing, and once he was with them, there was every chance that he would end up dead anyway, or in a situation where he might have preferred to die -- but is the general populace or his victims' friends going to care about that distinction? Probably not.
My inquisitor (first one anyway, my current mostly ignores him...though I have to say, great voice on him) disliked him. Immensely. Fairly certain I handed him to the wardens due to the fact that she was torn. Dude WAS a total idiot - you can't just pretend what he did disappears just because someone jumps up and says "yes, but I want to be a better man NOW". Well, maybe thats because you already did your damage so now can just relax, right? But then part of me DID acknowledge that the arse was there because he DID want to help now. Maybe he really did want to make amends. He was willing to finally step up and take the blows for his past deeds, and that is not an easy thing....unless the weight of the guilt was more than the weight of the crime itself...
Would I invite him to dinner? No. But I couldn't disregard all the help and effort he was currently exerting either. I keep saying I will try to like Blackwall in a playthrough, just to see how it plays out but.....no. Can't quite yet. Puppy killer. lol Sending to wardens has some accountability with it though in my mind: he is forced to live his own lie and in doing so also has the opportunity to redeem himself. I think if someone truly wants to change and redeem themselves, I'd like to provide that option, whether I like them or not.
Pardoning him is the right decision to me. It gives him a chance to to discover what sort of person he really is/want to be imo.
The way I see it, Blackwall was trying to make up for his past mistakes. I gave him over to the Grey Wardens to do with as they please. I feel that Cole puts it nicely.
... And plus, we're all murderers in this game. In the words of Varric, "You've killed 243 by my last count. Plus about 500 hundred men, a few giant spiders, and at least two demons."
In my last playthrough I didn't do all the Blackwall companion stuff, BUT! I did sentence him to exile with the rest of the Wardens, didn't seem to happy about it.
Hey he wanted the Wardens, he got the Wardens.
Sera murders nobles all the time and nobody cares. He had no idea of the family being present and he did not kill that puppy either, he was a kid himself at that point. He did fail his soldiers though. He did come forward eventually and did a lot of good as Blackwall. I recommend reading the dropped letter in the battle where you recruit him.
Since my Inq romanced him and wanted her husbando back i gave full pardon, no questions asked. Wardens seem to be the "right" sentence though.
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