I've exiled him with the entire Grey Warden order once, when I was playing Champion. Otherwise, I just pardon him.
i made the wrong decision on blackwall
#26
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 03:31
#27
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 03:36
I have him serve as a conscript since it was the only one that was actually a punishment.
Leaving him to die or sending him to the Wardens isn't a punishment because you are giving him things he wants.
Letting him go free isn't a punishment because you are letting him go free.
That left having him have to serve the Inquisition as the only option.
#28
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 03:37
I still feel mixed about Blackwall, at least he accepted his mistake but damn what he did. The companions really give him grief about it.
He disappears depending on whether or not you exile or keep the wardens it isn't a bug.
#29
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 03:42
Sera murders nobles all the time and nobody cares. He had no idea of the family being present and he did not kill that puppy either, he was a kid himself at that point. He did fail his soldiers though. He did come forward eventually and did a lot of good as Blackwall. I recommend reading the dropped letter in the battle where you recruit him.
Since my Inq romanced him and wanted her husbando back i gave full pardon, no questions asked. Wardens seem to be the "right" sentence though.
Correct on Sera. Also, I think the puppy story was a metaphor for how he let his other men take the fall for him and how in the case of his second in command because of who he is now he couldn't let another die for him.
#30
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 03:57
Sera murders nobles all the time and nobody cares. He had no idea of the family being present and he did not kill that puppy either, he was a kid himself at that point. He did fail his soldiers though. He did come forward eventually and did a lot of good as Blackwall. I recommend reading the dropped letter in the battle where you recruit him.
Since my Inq romanced him and wanted her husbando back i gave full pardon, no questions asked. Wardens seem to be the "right" sentence though.
Yeah I don't feel bad for his soldiers. "We were thought we were just following orders when murdering all these children" is not a convincing defence.
#31
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 04:01
i pardoned him because I just wanted to see the ending first time through
but really, the guy murdered a family and then let all his soldiers who followed his orders be tried and hung for it. You can't just walk away from that.
Even worse is the female inquisitor romance i've seen that basically just let him walk because they like him.
Clearly Blackwall is no longer Thomas Ranier. Sometimes mercy and a second chance are not so bad.
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#32
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 04:14
He can do no good as a dead man.
I never doubted the person he wants to be now, that is enough for me.
This. I forgave him too and I actually don't regret it.
Perhaps it's too forward thinking for dragon age's time. But it's pretty clear he finds his own actions incredibly repulsive and harbors self hatred for it. But if he can do some good if he lives then to me he should be given the opportunity.
- medusa_hair aime ceci
#33
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 04:15
First time I was pissed off I made him a warden (he could live , he could die , anyway once you're a warden your crime are paid )
But...after another playthrough he grew on me.
Yeah he messed up pretty badly , he's a very flawed man but he's desperately looking for redemption.
At redcliffe you can learn he saved a number of refugee when rifts opened and demon attacked , then he conscripted a number of young man to fight off the bandits trying to take advantage of the situation.
When he learns you're part of the Inquisition , he jumps on the chance to again do something good.
Problem with Blackwall is he can't forgive himself and can't really move on , I think he's going to feel guilty all his life.
What we saw of the wardens in DAI didn't make me feel like it would be a good place for Blackwall , the wardens do a lot of ugly things for the "Greater Good".
I think it's better for him to face his demons , stop with the Blackwall persona , and follow his own path.
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#34
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 04:20
I forgive him and let him serve the Inquisition. He has the means and the genuine desire to redeem himself.
#35
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 04:32
Becoming a Warden is no mercy even if it's what Rainier thinks he wants. The furthest he got into the order was the retrieval of darkspawn blood. He doesn't know that he's gotta drink it, probably die, probably watch other recruits die, and hear Old Gods singing for the rest of his short life. He doesn't know the cost of killing an Archdemon. He doesn't know about the ritual of going to Orzammar to embark unto the deep roads to fight darkspawn until he is overwhelmed and killed.
Give him to the Wardens. Shatter his preconceptions. It's no mercy.
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#36
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 04:59
Shame on you.
But that's why your first playthrough is never your canon. :-)
My first playthrough is my canon. I mean, you do not know what will happen, right? So it just feels...right.
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#37
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 05:05
I gave him to the Wardens... but mainly because the OCD collector in me can't stand the idea of getting rid of an NPC I rather liked for good, not because I was quite convinced that was the morally right thing to do.
I think it COULD have been the right thing to do if Blackwall's story was told better / if we accept the story the devs clearly wanted to tell rather than the one we actually got.
He just comes out of nowhere, joins you too easily by far and without giving you much of a chance to learn what he's about (which is actually a problem with multiple companions in DAI - Blackwall, Vivienne, Iron Bull) and then the game doesn't really do a great job of *showing* that he's a different man, willing to sacrifice himself for others and atone.
Sure, we're told a lot about his views on duty and morality, but what's missing during his companion quest is a chance to actually see him do something selfless. Just as importantly, the game also doesn't do a great job of making you feel like a lot of time has passed, making it clear that he's made an extended effort to try to redeem himself - so when the big reveal comes he doesn't really come across as the tragic, morally complex Jean Valjean-like figure I think the devs wanted him to be, but just a guy you've known for a few weeks that seemed like a pretty good dude but turns out to have been a corrupt child-killer.
#38
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 05:07
I romanced him on my first playthrough and felt so disappointed after that.
#39
Posté 31 décembre 2014 - 05:25
I typically don't play warrior, so my Inquisitor does need him. The guy is devastating, but in my canon, I do give him to the Wardens at the end.





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