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Just getting to the point where I don't join a party if I see an Elementalist.


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Dragkonias

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I know this isn't anything new but pretty sure that Firestorm does indeed have a high chance of causing the key glitch to happen, specifically when there are canines of some kind on the stage.

 

Sadly, it would seem almost everyone who plays elementalist has yet to put two and two together and just spams the **** out of that move eventually leading to our party being stuck. So yeah, think I'm just going to steer clear of those guys until this issue is cleared up.


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Key glitch aside I like playing with Elementalists, but Firestorm could use a little tweaking in general.  In single player it's (for lack of a better term) a limit break - not something you use every 10 seconds.  This makes the extended sound effects and shaking more sensible.  On multiplier however Firestorm is a bit too much ... kind of annoying to have the whole whiz-bang thing happen so often.  



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I know this isn't anything new but pretty sure that Firestorm does indeed have a high chance of causing the key glitch to happen, specifically when there are canines of some kind on the stage.

Sadly, it would seem almost everyone who plays elementalist has yet to put two and two together and just spams the **** out of that move eventually leading to our party being stuck. So yeah, think I'm just going to steer clear of those guys until this issue is cleared up.


Dont give up on eles atm because of the bugs yes firestorm can help to cause it because it is aoe. But i rarely run into the key bug on my ele the main cause is a enemy outside of the map not comming. It can also be caused by an enemy not registering it is dead and just stands there. We found a way to lessen the key bug by alot simply kill animals before the normal mobs should help with the bug till the fix.

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You can fix the elementalist firestorm key not dropping bug by deleting the DLC.

 

http://forum.bioware...nstall-pc-only/


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No offense, but.....

 

I don't get it- why are there so many mantrum threads on this forum?

 

I came here looking for advice about builds and gameplay, and I have to wade through so much crybaby crap.  It's really discouraging, and absolutely ridiculous.   Get a life, or better yet, send BioWare a formal request to adhere to your personal demands and/or speculations, and stop littering the forum with your tear-soaked tissues.  

 

Thank you to the people who actually post useful information and don't just whine.  You are a benefit to this community.


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Dragkonias

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No offense, but.....

 

I don't get it- why are there so many mantrum threads on this forum?

 

I came here looking for advice about builds and gameplay, and I have to wade through so much crybaby crap.  It's really discouraging, and absolutely ridiculous.   Get a life, or better yet, send BioWare a formal request to adhere to your personal demands and/or speculations, and stop littering the forum with your tear-soaked tissues.  

 

Thank you to the people who actually post useful information and don't just whine.  You are a benefit to this community.

 

No offense(or rather all offense) to you but I don't know if its whining to be very annoyed with a product you've put money on not working correctly. Especially almost two months out. And I don't care if you're willing to accept any old thing since I ain't you.

 

Also, I'll just roll my eyes at how ironic it is that you come up in someone's easily avoidable thread whining about how everyone is "whining and being selfish" and how its ruining your personal enjoyment.

 

So yeah... :rolleyes:


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I feel bad you get the bug. Since PSN went back up a few days ago I've played about 50-75 matches. Only got key bug once; there was no elementalist in party when it happened

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Yeah. The majority of the time it doesn't happen.

 

Just that its annoying when it does.

 

Which is a shame because outside of the bugs and loot system I like the multiplayer well enough.



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I tend to kick them on principle by now.


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I tend to kick them on principle by now.


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Too bad. I've heard that elementalists really know how to party.



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One more reason to play as a Katari!


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Firestorm has too low a damage:CD ratio IMO.

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I suspect my Elementalist will be staying at Level 1 until this is addressed,

That's fine, I have 10 other characters.

 

In the very rare event of a Key glitch I wait patiently for the host to quit.

(the price of command is falling on your sword).

 

Sometimes that happens promptly,

other times I grab my laptop whilst 5-10 minutes running around ensues...



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Firestorm has too low a damage:CD ratio IMO.

 

Good thing it has no cooldown.


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Or, you know, don't spec FirestCormac and let FSers know this shite forks with map architecture and shoves enemies through walls.

And seriously, at least on 360, you can immediately rejoin after leaving as host and retain all of your XP. Not sure why people haven't figured this out.

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I couldn't disagree more. Most of the time I wind up going all the way to door 5 with my elementalist, and winning.


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Firestorm has too low a damage:CD ratio IMO.

 

First of all it's more useful as CC than DPS and secondly, it doesn't have a cooldown with Flashpoint.



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Elementalist's fine. Just be conservative with Firestorm and do some recon for Shadows and dogs before dropping one on a spawn. Doesn't apply to pugs unfortunately. They're way too trigger happy with their iwin spell to give a hoot about the key glitch.


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Shandyr

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Wow classism as its finest on the BSN. Sure Elementalists are the bad guys.

Key bug never happens without elementalist.

All Elementalists spawn firestorm every second.


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This has nothing to do with the Elementalist class. It's 100% dog type enemies spawning inside the terrain because quality bugfix/stomping procedures. You can even see this glitch dickfully attempting to spring to life when dogs spawn halfway inside terrain and get stuck there (at least they are visible on the minimap and killable that way).

 

There was a separate Elementalist centric key glitch that had something to do with Stealth enemies dying while knocked down or with a DoT on them I think (you could hit an invisible/invincible enemy with AoE attacks to confirm that the glitch was happening), but I think that was fixed last patch.


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This has nothing to do with the Elementalist class. It's 100% dog type enemies spawning inside the terrain because quality bugfix/stomping procedures.

 

Yeah, if elementalists were responsible, why does it not happen with them without DLC?

 

But just because a few guys think they may have observed a slight increase in the key bug happening when an elementalist is around, this is what happens:

Elementalists get kicked out of party because they are said to spawn firestorm every second which always triggers the no key bug.

 

Thats how rumors aka prejudices work. Well done, BSN.


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This has nothing to do with the Elementalist class. It's 100% dog type enemies spawning inside the terrain because quality bugfix/stomping procedures.

 

There was a separate Elementalist centric key glitch that had something to do with Stealth enemies dying while knocked down or with a DoT on them I think (you could hit an invisible/invincible enemy with AoE attacks to confirm that the glitch was happening), but I think that was fixed last patch.

 

When there is dogs or wolves in a level and an Ele is using Firestorm then there is a very high chance of the key not dropping. I tried to grind my last 100 fire kills for the portrait and had to abort two Ele solos due to the key bug. And the invincible enemy bug wasn't fixed. The only thing that's changed is that Giants can now become invincible as well.

 

Does the bug sometimes happen without an Ele? Sure, but he is definitely a contributing factor. That's why until Bioware fixes the bug, I'll kick any Eles from my lobby. Cry about it.

 

 

Yeah, if elementalists were responsible, why does it not happen with them without DLC?

 

Because dogs/wolves + Firestorm = no key. And it happened before the DLC with Shadows, just not as often.


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People are just trying to figure a workaround during the holiday season.

 

I'm sure this will be addressed,

but limiting its impact in the meantime helps.