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[Cirvante]

A couple weeks ago when the glitch returned with the dlc I would have said it was merely coincidence.... However between 5 matches with my elementalist in the last two days I've experienced the key glitch every time I've used firestorm on the final mob. I'm on PS4 by the way....

At this point I too will bail as soon as I see an elementalist, not even taking the chance.

 

Same here. I have run quite a few solos with him to get my 2500 fire kills. When I didn't use Firestorm on the animals, I'd never get the key bug. When I used Firestorm on the animals, I'd always get it. There were no other characters present since I was soloing.

 

I know that it's unfair to those Eles who don't use Firestorm at all or only in stages without wildlife, but ever since the Ele has become the new AW in terms of popularity I have had to leave too many games I hosted because one of them just had to use Firestorm in that last fight. Disconnects and crashes make me lose enough exp as it is, I'm not gonna risk losing even more.

[fivep1ece]

Key glitch aside I like playing with Elementalists, but Firestorm could use a little tweaking in general.  In single player it's (for lack of a better term) a limit break - not something you use every 10 seconds.  This makes the extended sound effects and shaking more sensible.  On multiplier however Firestorm is a bit too much ... kind of annoying to have the whole whiz-bang thing happen so often.  

You can turn off the rumble feature in options, it saves so much battery life in your controller. Also there's no key issue if you uninstall DLC, maybe once in a blue moon. Ele is so much fun, and firestorm is too good not to pick up. Some people I know dont use it, but I will always and forever take it

[nothatasian]

Just got kicked! :"( didn't even give me a chance! Next game no key glitch. Well...

[veramis]

*shakes head*

 

The unsubstantiated-rumor-mill has turned the Ele (arguably one of the best toons) into the most maligned class of the moment.  

 

Well done, folks.

 

What substantiation has been given that Ele does not cause the key glitch?

 

[Reginald Cousins]

Just for sh*ts and giggles, I'll add fuel to the fire.  I was playing Ele today for the first time in a long while.  I was getting CTDs and key bugs constantly.  One game when we got key bug, I CTD during host migration.  Got 4 straight CTDs trying to rejoin that very game.  After that very game, I switched classes and everything went smooth as butter for the next like 10 perilous runs. 

 

The class is cursed for me and many others.  I don't want to touch it or see it until Bioware fixes it.  I know playing or having an Ele will not automatically result in these issues, but from personal experience, I'd rather not waste my time/luck with them.

[russ4ua16]

I hope the forum mods are on vacation. If they are seeing this thread and letting it continue, smh. The bug happens with and without an elementalist present. Good thing there are two other mage classes to play. Happy New year folks

[Benman1964]

Had the keyglitch a couple of times WITHOUT the Elementalist. So don't blame it on the Ele alone. It's the friggin doggies that came with the DLC. Before installing the DLC i've never even seen a key glitch.
If it happens ....... i'll scream CRAP and start over.

[Dragkonias]

Well...I don't think anywhere in my OP did I say the glitch just happened when playing with the elementalist.

 

Just that it has occurred under those circumstances quite regularly for me so I'm not going to chance it. Call it confirmation bias if you want but it isn't like I'm stopping you from playing the class.

 

Goodness...

[veramis]

I mean, maybe the Ele IS causing the glitch, but at this point it's just speculation, so why resort to the" Oh hai guys, I played a few games and noticed something, therefore it must be true.  Time to disseminate my dissatisfaction on the Bioware forums and Burn the witch! "  pun intended  

 

Definitely not rocket science and NOT *mind-blowing*, as your gif sarcastically implies.

 

Here is a sample of veramis' Brief Introduction to Critical Thinking (sadly the least popular book in the world):

 

Many people have observed that the key bug occurs with higher frequency when elementalists are in the team, so much so that it has become common practice to avoid playing elementalist and kick them from the lobby. What's so humorous is that people like you are trying to insult our intelligence by claiming our observations are faulty or that our choice to base our decisions on our observations is faulty, when it is YOU who are being illogical by trying to simply dismiss the opinion of so many people because we didn't scientifically validate our observation.

 

Let me make it clear to you, neither have YOU scientifically validated your opinion. Simply observing that the key bug occurs without elementalist in the team does not disprove the observation that elementalists in the team tend to increase the frequency of the key bug. Regardless, empirical evidence does not need to be scientifically validated before it can be put into practice in a video game. We're not doing brain surgery where the consequences of practicing pragmatism over scientific certainty can result in death.

 

Many of the people reporting that they have observed higher frequency of key bug with elementalists in team have suggested that it is possibly due to the firestorm ability. What does the firestorm ability do? It knocks enemies around a lot. Are there other classes and other abilities that knock enemies around? Yes. If knocking enemies around MIGHT cause the key bug, then it follows that other classes might also cause the key bug. If other classes can cause the key bug, does that mean that elementalists do not tend to cause it at a higher frequency than the other classes? NO.

 

The inconvenience of not playing elementalist is minor enough and the inconvenience of the key bug is large enough that the majority of people aware of the possible connection are willing to avoid playing and playing with elementalist if it means a lower frequency of the key bug.

[knownastherat]

wow this is like racists vs human rights activists .. its not that I do not like Ele, i do not like what they do! but its not all of them. i do not care, there is risk!.. so today is Fri I guess probably still holidays so Mon? Monday they come to fix their ****** game? 

[Robbiesan]

You can fix the elementalist firestorm key not dropping bug by deleting the DLC.

 

http://forum.bioware...nstall-pc-only/

 

 

This.  After too many keys not dropping I removed DLC (on XB1) and not a problem for vanilla DAMP.

[Chade]

Had this problem in 5 seperate games in a row last night, without any elementalist in any party. Hosted 3 of em and joined 2. Even tried reconnecting to a couple of games, same problem. Add that to your statistics. 

[ALTBOULI]

I just had a duo with this scrubby elementalist causing my game to crash, I tried to kick him but as it was just two of us in the game I didnt get the kick vote option...Damn you B00g13man!

[Ankiehl]

they have to finally fix that or people who otherwise would enjoy the MP will leave soon

 

killing the DLC on ps4 sucks a bit, sure it works and solves the issue but that divides players. pretty stupid isse and embarassing that they dont fix such things within hours, even worse they dont seem to inform about it and their plans to fix it at all

[Torkelight]

Just to join in on the thread here.

After an incredible amount of games on the DLC I have to conclude that having an elementalist in the game makes it 75% more likely that the key wont drop. Now, in this game - if you are doing a PUG it is just a REALLY annoying waste of time. Before this is fixed I will never play with an elementalist unless he promises either not to use firestorm or tells me he doesnt have it in his skillbar. It is not because I dont like elementalists or like to play them, infact I LOVE playing elementalists. This bug is even several times worse than the Reaver bug. Atleast if the reaver bugs out you still can finish the game, get the xp and the accomplishment progress.

Now, I've had games where firestorm HAS been used and the game has not bugged out. It obviously has something to do with the Canine creatures and when they spawn, are halfway stuck in to a wall. Casting Firestorm anywhere in the vicinty will create the bug. Not only that, but some stealthed mobs seem to bug out if they die while stealthed in the firestorm. Honestly I'm not taking the chance on playing with an Ele. Having the key not drop on stage 4 in a PUG makes me not want to play the game at all - so I avoid it vigourusly!

I don't even know WHY anyone is still playing the class. Everyone should have figured it out by now.

Of course, if you really want to play Ele, play without DLC - there are quite a lot of people doing that.

[VilniusNastavnik]

When there is dogs or wolves in a level and an Ele is using Firestorm then there is a very high chance of the key not dropping. I tried to grind my last 100 fire kills for the portrait and had to abort two Ele solos due to the key bug. And the invincible enemy bug wasn't fixed. The only thing that's changed is that Giants can now become invincible as well.

 

Interesting. I did 5 ele runs to get the last 500 fire kills, 5 ele solos, 5 bug free maps, as long as I used firestorm only on wave 5 I found the bug never dropped.

[veramis]

Interesting. I did 5 ele runs to get the last 500 fire kills, 5 ele solos, 5 bug free maps, as long as I used firestorm only on wave 5 I found the bug never dropped.

 

Solo=no lag. Try a duo with someone a few thousand miles away, two elementalists firestorming stuff.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Solo=no lag. Try a duo with someone a few thousand miles away, two elementalists firestorming stuff.

I have no problem with an entire team of elementalists firestorming.. max distance anyone I join with is 3000 miles away.. after that lag kicks in. 

[TeamLexana]

I've noticed the elementalists having a high chance of bugging the key as well. I cringe every time they enter a lobby. If by the off chance they do in fact have a mic and I warn them of the glitch, they are always offended and say their firestorm won't cause the key glitch and guess what 9 times out of 10, NO KEY and lost XP AND TIME.

[Rizilliant]

Just happened to us, with no Elementalist! Dwarf Warr, 2 Archers, and an assassin....

[Anzer]

What substantiation has been given that Ele does not cause the key glitch?

 

I had to "like" this post simply because you used a Tim and Eric gif.

[SofaJockey]

I'm running an Elementalist build with no AoE active abilities.

(Just: Winter's Grasp, Stonefist, Lighting Bolt, Barrier)

 

It's probably not optimal and is essentially a mage Archer.

 

Best of all, none of the dozens of games I've played with it have triggered the key glitch.