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[Above Good and Evil]

I'm curious, did anyone spare him and his cronies? Even if it was just an accident him acting all-knowing and talking down to Solas pissed me off and I didn't even hesitate to let Solas kill him. 

[LightningPoodle]

Let those b*stards die.

[Addai]

Yes, I stopped Solas. They didn't know any better, and now hopefully they do.

[raging_monkey]

They killed someone... their excuse of "it was just a spirit" made it easier to walk away and let sol do his thing

[Dabrikishaw]

I let Solas gut them. Everytime.

[Ryzaki]

Depends on how nice my character is.

 

Most of them let Solas cut loose though.

[Above Good and Evil]

Yes, I stopped Solas. They didn't know any better, and now hopefully they do.

See if I would have found that okay...if not before the fight they tried to blatantly dodge responsibility - "Oh, clearly you don't know what you're talking about. See I'm a Mage so I know these things and its not our fault." 

[Hazegurl]

Kirkwall mages needed to be purged. I only wish we could have seen it.

[Chernaya]

I stopped him, because I'm a goody-two-shoes. The mage seemed like an ignorant fool, but not someone who deserved to die. Sorry Solas, maybe on a file you're romanced. 

[SporkFu]

Knowing what his spirit friends meant to him, I let Solas do what he wanted in my first PT. I can understand the need for vengeance, and Thedas is a violent place. 

[Addai]

See if I would have found that okay...if not before the fight they tried to blatantly dodge responsibility - "Oh, clearly you don't know what you're talking about. See I'm a Mage so I know these things and its not our fault."

Well yeah, they're Circle mages and he's spouting what he's been taught all his life. They haven't had the benefit of Solas and Cole's perspective.

[Rake451]

I told Solas to calm his ****.  If we killed every idiot who pissed us off, we'd never get anything done.  Also, cold blooded murder against those have no chance against you always seems a little wrong, especially those morons.  I gotta imagine Ser Pounce-a-lot would put up a better fight.

[Above Good and Evil]

Well yeah, they're Circle mages and he's spouting what he's been taught all his life. They haven't had the benefit of Solas and Cole's perspective.

Except a a Circle Mage he should know exactly that summoning a Spirit was wrong. I'm pretty sure the Circle taught Mages that trying to bind Spirits is a BAD IDEA since that could lead to abuse and could potentially summon a demon....then they do it anyway and then excuse it with 'Its just a spirit!' - Hell there's even a quest on Origins on what happens if you botch a summoning ritual. If someone hurt Cole and said the same excuse a lot of players probably wouldn't be so quick to forgive. 

 

Also, on a tangent, in the file I made Cole a Human so it would be massively hypocritical for me to encourage Cole to take vengeance on someone who had killed his friend the original Cole then deny Solas killing the Mages who essentially tortured his friend. Actually, both conflicts are rather similar - Both parties that did them harm killed someone close to them and did it out of ignorance/cowardice. Doing the quests back to back is rather poignant. 

[AtreiyaN7]

The first time...I let them live because I was being merciful to everyone in the universe on my first playthrough and because I'm a light side weenie basically. And while I'm still being merciful to pretty much everyone on my second playthrough...I kind of let Solas kill them all this time just to see how it would turn out.

[Addai]

Except a a Circle Mage he should know exactly that summoning a Spirit was wrong. I'm pretty sure the Circle taught Mages that trying to bind Spirits is a BAD IDEA since that could lead to abuse and could potentially summon a demon....then they do it anyway and then excuse it with 'Its just a spirit!' - Hell there's even a quest on Origins on what happens if you botch a summoning ritual. If someone hurt Cole and said the same excuse a lot of players probably wouldn't be so quick to forgive. 
 
Also, on a tangent, in the file I made Cole a Human so it would be massively hypocritical for me to encourage Cole to take vengeance on someone who had killed his friend the original Cole then deny Solas killing the Mages who essentially tortured his friend. Actually, both conflicts are rather similar - Both parties that did them harm killed someone close to them and did it out of ignorance/cowardice. Doing the quests back to back is rather poignant.

Cole doesn't really kill the templar.

Circle mages summon spirits as part of Spirit Healing. They also explain why they did it even though they normally wouldn't attempt such a thing. They're stupid, but they don't know that they're being cruel.

[Above Good and Evil]

Cole doesn't really kill the templar.

Circle mages summon spirits as part of Spirit Healing. They also explain why they did it even though they normally wouldn't attempt such a thing. They're stupid, but they don't know that they're being cruel.

Yes, but the Inquisitor doesn't know that. First run through I thought he would honestly murder the Templar and was surprised he didn't. The Inquisitor wouldn't know Cole changes his mind at the last second. 

Except they didn't summon it for healing purposes, they were trying to bind it, which is close to slavery in human terms. Here's what the wiki says about Spirit Healers:
 

Not all things to come from the Fade are harmful. While maleficarum summon and control demons from the Fade, some mages within the Circle of Magi seek to summon spirits that do not feed on the darker side of the psyche. These benign spirits of fortitude, compassion, hope and the like rarely seek to cross the Veil, but can sometimes be persuaded to protect and restore life, rather than corrupt or destroy it as demons would. Many people of Thedas may think of all spirits as malevolent entities, but as the spirit healers propose, there is much good to be done alongside the Maker's first children.

 

While healing spells do exist, spirit healers are well known for taking healing and restoration far beyond a standard mage’s capabilities. In effect, the spirit healer summons a benevolent spirit through the veil and that spirit uses its abilities on the mage’s behalf. Thus, spirit healers are highly desired in the ranks of the Circle.

 

Becoming a spirit healer, however, is no simple matter. To gain the services of such benevolent and righteous beings requires that the mage earn their trust. Often this requires a series of trials to prove that the mage's goals are as noble as the spirit demands, though some mages have claimed to command the compliance of such spirits through sheer force of charisma. Some even claim they did not choose their calling; instead, a powerful spirit chose them and led them into lives of service, ordeal, and succor.

 

It says quite blatantly that to earn the spirit's cooperation you need mutual trust and to undergo a spirit of trials. They were trying for no such thing. It also mentions summoning spirits of fortitude, compassion and hope; these guys were trying to summon something to kill bandits, and Cole killing as a Spirit of Compassion is rather abnormal already. Regardless of methods they were trying to summon a spirit to bind it and make it their mindless defender. 

 

Also, what annoys the hell out of me is that they never actually apologize or say sorry. They give reasons WHY they did it but rather than apologizing that it was a mistake they say 'It was just a spirit' as if that excuses everything and that it wasn't a big deal anyway since 'only' a spirit got hurt and not a person. 

[Celtic Latino]

Yes, I stopped Solas. They didn't know any better, and now hopefully they do.

This. Especially given Solas gets huffy when the PC acts rash or in blind anger. Makes him check his own ways.

[Sable Rhapsody]

As a player, I wanted to let him lash out.  He was in so much pain, and I felt so terrible for him.  But the Inquisitor I was playing (who wound up romancing Solas) didn't believe in vengeance, even if it was richly deserved.  She never executed anybody, always showed mercy when she could.  So they got to live because quizzy was nicer than I am 

 

Second Inquisitor is going to let Solas light them on fire, and may very well join in himself.

[veeia]

Can you still romance him him if you don't let him kill them? Because I'm trying my hardest to simulate a rivalmance with him right now, and while my brutish Quizzie would be perfectly fine with him killing them, I think it would be fun if she stopped him, because after how much he's lectured her for being a reactive brute, it would be fun to her to do that back to him now that he likes her. 

[TheodoricFriede]

I like Solas, but he needs to understand that not everyone has the benefit of his experience and knowledge.

 

Killing them accomplishes nothing. Lessons are wasted in death.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I let Solas decide..... and he killed them. Whatever, they're from Kirkwall. They would have become blood mages eventually.

[errantknight]

My first inquisitor, a human warrior, let him do it. My current mage probably won't.

[Farangbaa]

Stopped both him and Cole on my second run. Didn't do their personal quests on my first.