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romancing Sera without recruiting Vivienne?


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I didnt recruit Vivi as im playing a mage myself and she didnt get on with Sera, who I was planning to romance, but ive read that you cant romance Sera if you dont have Vivienne to enable a quest, is this correct?

 

Also where does the initial Sera mission pop up, ive just got out of the fade after Adamant and there is still no option to romance her



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I've played through the game twice and haven't seen any connection between Vivienne and Sera, in quests or otherwise. As for romance, maybe it's a bug?


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Talk to Sera a lot use up the conversation content.
Flirt with Harding any chance you get Sera approves every time (5 available flirts).
I don't know what race you are playing but if you play as an elf, you have too really work to get her approval. Picking up Sera as soon as possible helps as The hinterlands have many quests that she gives approval on.
Do all Red Jenny missions.

I can't remember if the first mission comes from a conversation with Sera but her personal quest does.

The Harding flirts really help if you want to disagree with Sera on major decision points.

Edit: Vivienne's suggestion allows you to get the sex scene without Vivienne it fades to black. So it depends on what you want.
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I've played through the game twice and haven't seen any connection between Vivienne and Sera, in quests or otherwise. As for romance, maybe it's a bug?

Vivienne has an integral role in Sera's gift quest for her romance.

 

As far as if it can proceed without her, I'm not sure. It seems like a serious lack of foresight if it's true. You've got other people filling a role in another companion's scene if the original wasn't recruited (like Leliana playing chess with Cullen instead of Dorian), so it seems weird they wouldn't offer an alternative. 



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You have to have Vivienne to have nudity, that's it.

 

If Vivienne is not a part of the Inquisition Sera will only offer a fade to black romance culmination scene.



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You have to have Vivienne to have nudity, that's it.

 

If Vivienne is not a part of the Inquisition Sera will only offer a fade to black romance culmination scene.

 

Bioware knew majority of the fanbase wouldn't agree with pro-Templar Vivienne and so might not recruit her, so they made sure the nude lesbian scene can only be seen by having Vivienne in your team. Clever Bioware.....



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Question has been answered already but re-consider OP having Viv and Sera together in your party makes for some glorious lols romanced or not, Sera tries to verbally duel with her but Viv just eviscerates her, it's quite painful to listen to at times but really entertaining. And Viv's reaction to an Inquisitor who asks her for a gift idea for Sera is one of the funniest moments I've had in this game.


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damn, we need console commands for adding party members back etc

 

as for the romance, I found out you need to lock in the romance before 'what pride has wrought' and wont initiate after 'wicked eyes and wicked hearts' and that the quest 'Vercheild March' triggers it....so ive done the Vecheiled March quest, done the 'pranking quest', have not done 'what pride has wrought' yet but im still getting the 'lets travel around more' busllsh1t...does she need a certain level of approval? If so where the frack do you find it?

 

 


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MMm I've read somewhere if you don't have Vivienne , Dorian tells you about the gift for Sera.

Not sure if it's true.



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MMm I've read somewhere if you don't have Vivienne , Dorian tells you about the gift for Sera.
Not sure if it's true.


Is that a conversation thing or a war table thing? How does the Vivi quest start?

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Is that a conversation thing or a war table thing? How does the Vivi quest start?

 

You have to talk to all the companions for one of Sera romance quest.

Vivienne gives you the solution for that quest.



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You have to talk to all the companions for one of Sera romance quest.
Vivienne gives you the solution for that quest.


So you do need Vivi then? I'm so fuck1ng confused now...how does talking to all the companions start Sera's romance?

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So you do need Vivi then? I'm so fuck1ng confused now...how does talking to all the companions start Sera's romance?

 

You don't need to recruit Vivienne in order to romance Sera.

 

Talking to all companions isn't what starts Sera's romance.  At one point in the romance, there's a gift quest where you have to talk to each recruited companion about it.  If you didn't recruit Vivienne, it won't be required to speak to her, ofc.  However, if you do have Vivienne recruited and you take her advice during this quest, it opens up an extra scene with Sera.

 

To actually start Sera's romance, you have to select that option from the dialog wheel under the 'Special' tree.  I think you need to have reached a certain approval level first and completed her personal mission and prank mission before she'll agree to a relationship.  This option will go away after "What Pride Had Wrought".  Also, make sure you have exhausted all of her dialog options (they show up on the right side of the wheel).  Doing her wartable missions helps as well.



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Sera has a fetish for Qunari females. I'd romance her with a Qunari  :lol:



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MMm I've read somewhere if you don't have Vivienne , Dorian tells you about the gift for Sera.

Not sure if it's true.

 

Sadly, no. If you turn down Vivienne's suggestion prior to asking for Dorian's advice, then he'll bring it up again and give you a second chance at it. He wont bring it up on his own though.


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so is there a way to check a companions approval level?



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so is there a way to check a companions approval level?


No, unfortunately.

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That sounds like you need Vivienne's approval to have sex.


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That sounds like you need Vivienne's approval to have sex.

 

Actually you need her "Vivienne disapproves." :D



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That sounds like you need Vivienne's approval to have sex.

 

This quote, with your name, is hilarious.



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That sounds like you need Vivienne's approval to have sex.

 

No.

They still have sex. The difference is with Viv, you get to see them naked.



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ok, so ive got to the bit where Im in an exclusive relationship with Sera, there was a 'race to my chambers' fade to black scene...so what I want to know, for my next run, when and how does the gift quest show up...is it during conversation with Sera?

 

Im assuming the quest doesn't show up if you don't have Vivi?



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ok, so ive got to the bit where Im in an exclusive relationship with Sera, there was a 'race to my chambers' fade to black scene...so what I want to know, for my next run, when and how does the gift quest show up...is it during conversation with Sera?

Im assuming the quest doesn't show up if you don't have Vivi?


The gift quest will show up sometime after the scene you just got. You do not need Vivienne for this quest to show up.

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I take it this extra nude scene shows up with any race? Or do i have to be human or elf?



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I take it this extra nude scene shows up with any race? Or do i have to be human or elf?


It works with all races. You just need Vivienne at Skyhold to get it.