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[kww75]

I second if you connect to a host that is lagging, its not their fault but the way EA/Origin has set up multiplayer... I can tell you from my ME3 experience, people who suffer greatest lag issues when connecting to my games is anyone within the Europeon region... Heck I have had people from Brazil have a much better connection to me than people in Europe. I'm based in Far East Asia with a 100 Mbit line btw... So it generally means anyone within my geographical region has a good/great connection. Actually being one internet hop away from Tokyo (see the global internet lines) generally people within 2 or 3 hops of that have a good connection to me, but the moment you start having to jump over five times, issues start to occur....

 

The reason why people in Europe have a huge issue connecting to my hosted games, it's because their internet connection has to hop over 12 times all the way around the whole of the coast of all of Africa to connect to me. yeah they're going to lag bad. People on the East coast of the states it will vary depending on where in the country they are in. West cost people will only notice very slight lag but more than playable...

 

So if three people from Europe lagging because they connected to my game? whose fault is that? It's not mine, it's not like I can block them from connecting to me!

 

The only way around the connectivity issue is to find several people who you have a great connection to and friend-add them!

 

Even as a host you're going to want to play with people who don't lag rather than those that do!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Added the following to the OP for clarity:

 

 

This is clearly not just a case of someone being on a different continent, or having high ping. This was massive packet loss, and insufficient data transfer speed. I'm amazed that we never got dumped.

[Kinom001]

Christ, with lag that bad I'd just leave, but that's me. XP points are important but not so important I'd put up w/ that.

[Trickshaw]

That video is the reason why Nigerians shouldn't be allowed to host on dial-up.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Just leave. Not the hosts fault he gets paired up with players from another country. If I get into a game with an American or European host I leave. It has nothing to do with shitting internet but distance from the host. I can connect to any Australian, or New Zealander or PNG player lag free, but the moment you get an American or European host it is lag central due to distance and ping times. In a world where the data transmission was instantaneous world wide with no lag time, then yes, but it is not.. and unless you know the host is from the same country as you, you are better off leaving the game and trying to get a game with someone of the same nationality. As I stated prior, I refuse to join an american or european game because the lag is so bad. Has nothing to do with internet connection, just packet transfer time. I can also honestly say, the video OP posted is what it looks like when I join a non Oceanic match.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Just leave. Not the hosts fault he gets paired up with players from another country. If I get into a game with an American or European host I leave. It has nothing to do with shitting internet but distance from the host.

 

Between the text and the video, I find it hard to believe that I'm still getting someone saying this.

 

It was not an issue of being on a different continent or in a different country. I can play with people in Europe or even Australia just fine. That was not the issue, and it's pretty hard to believe you seriously think that it is.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Between the text and the video, I find it hard to believe that I'm still getting someone saying this.

 

It was not an issue of being on a different continent or in a different country. I can play with people in Europe or even Australia just fine. That was not the issue, and it's pretty hard to believe you seriously think that it is.

Well then I am not sure what you are doing differently, but everytime I get a non Oceanic host it is lag city.. Maybe they just need to open their ports or something.. There is a reason we aussies set up a low ping thread.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Well then I am not sure what you are doing differently, but everytime I get a non Oceanic host it is lag city.. Maybe they just need to open their ports or something.. There is a reason we aussies set up a low ping thread.

 

Australia's networks are not of good quality, and they need serious upgrades. But I've played with plenty of Australians, and the lag they experience (and vice versa) would not trap people in a room for that kind of time.

[kww75]

Between the text and the video, I find it hard to believe that I'm still getting someone saying this.

 

It was not an issue of being on a different continent or in a different country. I can play with people in Europe or even Australia just fine. That was not the issue, and it's pretty hard to believe you seriously think that it is.

 

What that video shows is yes someone has potential problems with their internet connection, but that does not discount  the distance to the host and number of internet hops you have to take to get to the host... Distance is the easiest and overly simplistic way to explain it, but the not the most precise. The number of internet exchange hops you take to get to the host is. Generally the greater the distance the more hops you need to take. But not always the case when you look at the major internet pathways around the globe.

 

I'm fortunate cause I'm next to a major internet node that is just one single big jump to Tokyo, before it connects to the states. So for anyone in the states connecting to me they need to make at least three hops to connect to me and each node you pass through just will slow down your connection to me. Now compare that one to someone in Europe, they need to literally like I said before hope all the way around the coast line of Africa or go through the middle east to get to me, neither are short routes and require in excess of 20+ hops.

 

I'm going to assume you are in the States or North America for you connecting to Europe or anyone in the pacific rim is not going to be as bad as connecting to someone in the west side of Russia or middle East, those two places you are going to have to hop over 10 times there is no single direct connection from North America to those locations, you will see severe lag issues connecting to them.

 

easiest way to see how many nodes you need to connect to a host is to do a trace route and ping it. Or if you know the host personally ask them to do a ping test and if they get a score that is C grade or less (http://www.pingtest....learn.php#grade) either ask them not to host or get a better ISP connection

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

 

I'm going to assume you are in the States or North America for you connecting to Europe or anyone in the pacific rim is not going to be as bad as connecting to someone in the west side of Russia or middle East, those two places you are going to have to hop over 10 times there is no single direct connection from North America to those locations, you will see severe lag issues connecting to them.

 

I am in North America, but I don't typically have major problems connecting to any particular region (although Australia is a special snowflake in the world of internet.)

 

I've played with people in Europe, Asia, South America, and the lag can be noticeable, but it isn't anything like in the video.

 

The video doesn't show an issue of nodes or ping, it shows massive packet loss and badly choked data transfer. There are three explanations for that: a bad connection, an overtaxed connection, or both of those things at once.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Australia's networks are not of good quality, and they need serious upgrades. But I've played with plenty of Australians, and the lag they experience (and vice versa) would not trap people in a room for that kind of time.

Partially correct.

Our internet networks are still sup par compared to the states.. old copper compared to fibre thanks to the conservatives blocking the NBN.. thanks all those twits who voted tony abbot in.. But our cellular networks are exponentially more advanced. Often find it funny that america has the second worst mobile communications networks in the developed world having only relatively recently converted from analogue to digital mobile communications, whilst Australia has one of the best.. yet Australia has one of the worst internet systems in the developed world whilst america has one of the best. 

[Boatzu]

O brave new world, that has such people in it!

[BelnickISMYNICKNAME]

never had that lag that posted above lol
then again I run 100/100mbit and thinking of upgrading to 1gbit/1gbit

but I have lagged a few ppl because I started with the wrong exe sometimes, I play SP with the 60fps extension and MP with the normal and sometimes I forget which I have have started it with and other guys keep rubber banding

[Tremble333]

Whenever three unacquainted players kick a fourth, for whatever reason, it should be deemed acceptable.

How very Democratic of you. No I am serious that is Democracy in  a nutshell. For whatever reason as long as we all  (not all but most) agree on the reason. The reason doesn't matter? Welcome to the really real world. Three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.The lesson to be learned? Don't you dare be born as a sheep. Forget you multi-player.

[knownastherat]

How very Democratic of you. No I am serious that is Democracy in  a nutshell. For whatever reason as long as we all  (not all but most) agree on the reason. The reason doesn't matter? Welcome to the really real world. Three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.The lesson to be learned? Don't you dare be born as a sheep. Forget you multi-player.

 

Well, what is the alternative? Undemocracy in a nutshell. Let 1 vegan decide for 3 omnivores what to have for dinner? Do not see how that would be "better". All human made rules, unlike laws of nature, are subject to consensus and change. The alternative is dictate of minority or perhaps divine power.  Lesson learned.