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[Cooperb21]

Im building new pc with 8350 cpu and r9 290. Im wondering some people are saying my cpu might hold my gpu back and i should spend more and get intel is this true?

 

[metalfenix]

whoa, at first glance it should not since THIS game was programmed having AMD hardware in mind. But I dunno the specifics of that CPU so take what I've said with a grain of salt.

 

But i5 and i7 CPUS are beasts, mine is 4 years old (I have an i7 930 at 2.8 GHz, accompanied with a 750 Ti), and can handle this game better than I expected.

[archav3n]

google is your best friend:

http://www.tomshardw...8350-4670k.html

 

why not go for intel? i'm using i5 3570K myself there no single PC game that is giving my CPU a sweat. i have an R9 290. i think it's pretty cheap now. it's a powerful GPU but if you were to play on 1440p i think  you may not max 60fps. I'm averaging 40-60fps on that resolution but i think you will have no issues on 1080p if that is what you game on. if you are looking to save yourself some electricity bill i would go with GTX970 which performance is on par with R9 290 but is more optimize and power efficient (less heat). R9 290 is very hot if you don't buy a non-reference GPU with custom cooling.

[Cooperb21]

google is your best friend:

http://www.tomshardw...8350-4670k.html

 

why not go for intel? i'm using i5 3570K myself there no single PC game that is giving my CPU a sweat. i have an R9 290. i think it's pretty cheap now. it's a powerful GPU but if you were to play on 1440p i think  you may not max 60fps. I'm averaging 40-60fps on that resolution but i think you will have no issues on 1080p if that is what you game on. if you are looking to save yourself some electricity bill i would go with GTX970 which performance is on par with R9 290 but is more optimize and power efficient (less heat). R9 290 is very hot if you don't buy a non-reference GPU with custom cooling.

Price amd is 60$ cheaper plus motherboards are cheaper. 

[Cooperb21]

Found this video of guy running 8350 and 770 so i would be fine i think. 

 

[bEVEsthda]

No.

 

 

 

The Piledriver FX is a lot faster than normally perceived. There are many reasons for this, as well as a few pitfalls. It's not going to do well for people with a pirated Windows OS for instance. And maybe Win8.1 is the recommended OS.

 

In a lot of published benchmarks, it suffers in comparison. It's because these benchmarks are really all the same, even as they are presented as a varied, wide selection. They all mainly only measure, or heavily weigh, the results of vectorized floating point. There is also good deal of single thread.

 

They do that because of Intel dominance and influence over benchmark makers and benchmark publishers. So they make sure that most benchmarks show off Intel at its best. In the past, they even cheated much more dirty and illegally (and those cheats still reside in many compound benchmarks). Intel were eventually sued by a lot of people. AMD, who couldn't sustain the lawsuit to victory, because of financial troubles (Intel for years pushed CPU prices to the ground in order to put economic pressure on AMD, to force them to settle. In Intel's record year of producing and selling CPUs, they showed their worst economic result.) So AMD finally had to accept a settlement payment from Intel of $1.3 Billion (victory in court for AMD would have completely ruined Intel). EU also fined Intel €1 Billion. They would have punished Intel harder, weren't it for that €1 Billion was the maximum fine. Finally, Federal Trade Commission also sued Intel on a great number of issues, among those systematic benchmark cheating. That was eventually settled painlessly with an agreement (good old USA, as long as there is money, you can't be punished - just look at how BP and Exxon got away with it, or at least Exxon - it's american).

 

The thing about AMD's current CPU-architecture (the one that replaced the old Phenom II) is that every pair of cores share a single hardware resource for floating point. The reason for this, in turn, is that AMD was aiming for doing that sort of calculations in the GPU.

 

On normal integer code however:

 

http://www.anandtech...fx4300-tested/2

 

As you see, it beats even the Core i7 3770K.

In fact, it's only with the last generations of Core i7, with their improvements in hyperthreading, that Intel has become competitive on this. I remember the early server benchmarks. AMD's FX absolutely trounced Intel's Core i7.

 

All this said, there is no doubt that Intel's Core i7, today, is overall the best CPU. No doubt at all. AMD has given up the race.

 

Still, if I were to build a new PC today (which I don't need to do, since my four years old six-core Phenom II still rocks), I might very well go for a FX8350 and a simple mainboard. It's so much cheaper. Anyway, it's not any choice I've done yet.

[zeypher]

I have a 8350 and have not encountered any problems. What is bottlenecking me atm is my 7950, but cpu is fine.

[janddran]

I've never been so unhappy with a CPU since my first Tandy 1000 EX when it comes to gaming.

I game full-time as am retired ,so to speak, so my system is under heavy load and i have several games to compare.

 

It depends on the game, but many studder on Ultra and sometimes High settings @1080p. Sometimes it is the game (or GPU), sometimes not.

I've unblocked the cores (which I recommend possibly, it doesn't add much) That said, I can't push my settings on DAI as I get the DirectX errors unless I am mostly using High settings/ a couple medium. (Wasn't as bad when the game first came out)

 

I only have a 660 GTX OC but when I use a performance monitor on it in Skyrim (yes, I know), for instance, it is crazy.

 

I'm not pro AMD, pro Intel, just pro what works and for me I've just encountered too many games that studder or don't run optimally with this CPU. With a really good GPU....maybe. Generally my GPU isn't under full load though when I encounter problems. Plus a lot of games aren't optimized for AMD.

 

It's also a pain to install (for me anyway) -- and I have to replace my HSF next week.

 

I empathize with the budget issue, but If I had it to do over again...

[Aulis Vaara]

Im building new pc with 8350 cpu and r9 290. Im wondering some people are saying my cpu might hold my gpu back and i should spend more and get intel is this true?

I have an FX-8350, but with an AMD GPU, and the game runs like a dream. Besides, the FX8350 is a 4 GHz octocore, how could it bottleneck anything at the moment?

[Bizantura]

Compensate with Mantle, your graphic card supports it.  Solve the bottlenek in games if any.

 

http://www.amd.com/e...mantle#overview

[dlux]

 

Will AMD FX-8350 bottleneck this game?

No.

 

Double no if you use a Radeon graphics card + Mantle renderer.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Also, remember that Mantle helps with CPU bottlenecking. You shouldn't have a problem.

[bEVEsthda]

I've never been so unhappy with a CPU since my first Tandy 1000 EX when it comes to gaming.

I game full-time as am retired ,so to speak, so my system is under heavy load and i have several games to compare.

 

It depends on the game, but many studder on Ultra and sometimes High settings @1080p. Sometimes it is the game (or GPU), sometimes not.

I've unblocked the cores (which I recommend possibly, it doesn't add much) That said, I can't push my settings on DAI as I get the DirectX errors unless I am mostly using High settings/ a couple medium. (Wasn't as bad when the game first came out)

 

I only have a 660 GTX OC but when I use a performance monitor on it in Skyrim (yes, I know), for instance, it is crazy.

 

I'm not pro AMD, pro Intel, just pro what works and for me I've just encountered too many games that studder or don't run optimally with this CPU. With a really good GPU....maybe. Generally my GPU isn't under full load though when I encounter problems. Plus a lot of games aren't optimized for AMD.

 

It's also a pain to install (for me anyway) -- and I have to replace my HSF next week.

 

I empathize with the budget issue, but If I had it to do over again...

 

Still, I have to say that it's not reasonable to assume that your problems are due to the choice of CPU, directly. It doesn't work that way.

Indirectly, of course, it is, because your build is using a CPU. And somehow, it's involved.

 

 

I have no idea what the problem is, but aside from various clocking and voltage issues that could conceivably pop up, I'd like to suggest you try DA:I with Origin offline?