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[His Majesty Lord Crash]

Stop trying to talk to me like I haven't owned a PC for the last 25 years. Stop trying to talk to me like I am not playing on a PC.

 

And I am not missing the point here, I know it doesn't control as well as it did in DA:O. That's not what I was commenting about. I'm commenting about people claiming that the game plays better with a controller, which is just not true. Unlike you, most likely, I have the options to use both, so I know perfectly well what I am talking about. Controling the game is remarkably more cumbersome with a controller than with mouse and keyboard.

 

So why don't you stop then to talk to all of us like you were cleverer than all of us?

 

You were the one with the edgy post (ending it with a "Ridiculous" statement) and now you are surprised by edgy answers? Wow...

 

Some people claim that the game plays better with a controller. They have every right to feel that way and you are free to disagree. But just because you personally disagree doesn't mean you're right and they're wrong. And it certainly doesn't mean that their opinion is ridiculous. I guess most of those claiming that are just used to controller gameplay and so playing with one feels more natural and comfortable to them (it's just the opposite for me for example in games like Assassin's Creed).

 

For what I've said: I might have misinterpreted your intention but my point stands. No matter if the Dragon Age games were ever suited for controller (I think they're not) the PC controls are worse in Inquisition and that's a real issue. I'm not surprised at all if the controller gameplay is as lacking as ever...

[Amplitudelol]

Game is brilliant! Zones are so huge, exactly what i was expecting from a DA game and very much loved the ammount and diversity of stuff to do. Hinterlands is beautiful and filled with so much things: collecting shards all around map, finding hidden bottles is so exciting! Ive found closing rifts especially fun. And thats not even all you can do in th free-roaming zones. Sometimes you run into quests like bring a flower to a grave for sad man.I was so touched by it and found the complexity of the these quests very pleasing. Sometimes you find a dragon and thanks to the very well thought tactical combat fighting it is ton of fun. Other zones contain these same awesome content. When i was about to enter the 5. one i was like: i cant wait for collect all the shards again here and plant all the flags too! Fortunately there was not much cutscenes here, they ruin the immsersion created by actionfilled button smashing. Just Bravo Bioware!

 

I am glad the story is completely disconnected from these zones and takes place in its own instances as missions. It is a very good design choice not to mix progressing in the story with exploration as it was the same in the previous games. It would have ruined the experince for me.

 

As a typical casual who wants to play the pc version with a controller i think (and i guess the majority of the pc gaming fans of this game play like this  - you got this right too) this was close to a perfect game and exceeded every expectation. Clearly this is GOTY material and Bioware is back on the top!

 

Cant possibly think why anyone would disagree with Angry Joe.

[Missy_MI]

Angry Joe released a new video presenting his top 10 games of 2014. I personally can't say much for the list in general, since I haven't played some of the games. But the number one place goes to the Inquisiton.

Thanks for letting us know evgenija! I would have liked your post but I am out of likes today. I love Angry Joe's reviews and agree that Inquisition is awesome, off to watch the video now!

[BioWareMod03]

Hey everyone. Let's keep it civil in here. Thank you.

[AllThatJazz]

Game is brilliant! Zones are so huge, exactly what i was expecting from a DA game and very much loved the ammount and diversity of stuff to do. Hinterlands is beautiful and filled with so much things: collecting shards all around map, finding hidden bottles is so exciting! Ive found closing rifts especially fun. And thats not even all you can do in th free-roaming zones. Sometimes you run into quests like bring a flower to a grave for sad man.I was so touched by it and found the complexity of the these quests very pleasing. Sometimes you find a dragon and thanks to the very well thought tactical combat fighting it is ton of fun. Other zones contain these same awesome content. When i was about to enter the 5. one i was like: i cant wait for collect all the shards again here and plant all the flags too! Fortunately there was not much cutscenes here, they ruin the immsersion created by actionfilled button smashing. Just Bravo Bioware!

 

I am glad the story is completely disconnected from these zones and takes place in its own instances as missions. It is a very good design choice not to mix progressing in the story with exploration as it was the same in the previous games. It would have ruined the experince for me.

 

As a typical casual who wants to play the pc version with a controller i think (and i guess the majority of the pc gaming fans of this game play like this  - you got this right too) this was close to a perfect game and exceeded every expectation. Clearly this is GOTY material and Bioware is back on the top!

 

Cant possibly think why anyone would disagree with Angry Joe.

Trying a tiny bit too hard here. Shame, your previous post was a decent effort.

[His Majesty Lord Crash]

Trying a tiny bit too hard here. Shame, your previous post was a decent effort.

Problem is that he is spot on with his post. He even left out a lot of things...

[Farangbaa]

So why don't you stop then to talk to all of us like you were cleverer than all of us?

 

You were the one with the edgy post (ending it with a "Ridiculous" statement) and now you are surprised by edgy answers? Wow...

 

Some people claim that the game plays better with a controller. They have every right to feel that way and you are free to disagree. But just because you personally disagree doesn't mean you're right and they're wrong. And it certainly doesn't mean that their opinion is ridiculous. I guess most of those claiming that are just used to controller gameplay and so playing with one feels more natural and comfortable to them (it's just the opposite for me for example in games like Assassin's Creed).

 

For what I've said: I might have misinterpreted your intention but my point stands. No matter if the Dragon Age games were ever suited for controller (I think they're not) the PC controls are worse in Inquisition and that's a real issue. I'm not surprised at all if the controller gameplay is as lacking as ever...

 

More clever*

 

And my point still stands too: almost every single action aside from the most basic ones take longer to perform with a controller than with a keyboard. Where everything on mouse and keyboard can be done with a single mouse click or button press, a lot of actions on the controller take multiple inputs from the user. How anyone can perceive that as better is beyond me, and I think these people are just pissed off.

 

I already agreed with you about M+KB not being as good in DA:I as in DA:O, but the statement that a controller is better than M+KB is just ludicrous. That's being pissed off about the M+KB not being as good as it could be. But M+KB not living up to it's potential in no way means the controller controls are better.

[Realmzmaster]

Game is brilliant! Zones are so huge, exactly what i was expecting from a DA game and very much loved the ammount and diversity of stuff to do. Hinterlands is beautiful and filled with so much things: collecting shards all around map, finding hidden bottles is so exciting! Ive found closing rifts especially fun. And thats not even all you can do in th free-roaming zones. Sometimes you run into quests like bring a flower to a grave for sad man.I was so touched by it and found the complexity of the these quests very pleasing. Sometimes you find a dragon and thanks to the very well thought tactical combat fighting it is ton of fun. Other zones contain these same awesome content. When i was about to enter the 5. one i was like: i cant wait for collect all the shards again here and plant all the flags too! Fortunately there was not much cutscenes here, they ruin the immsersion created by actionfilled button smashing. Just Bravo Bioware!

 

I am glad the story is completely disconnected from these zones and takes place in its own instances as missions. It is a very good design choice not to mix progressing in the story with exploration as it was the same in the previous games. It would have ruined the experince for me.

 

As a typical casual who wants to play the pc version with a controller i think (and i guess the majority of the pc gaming fans of this game play like this  - you got this right too) this was close to a perfect game and exceeded every expectation. Clearly this is GOTY material and Bioware is back on the top!

 

Cant possibly think why anyone would disagree with Angry Joe.

 

I can only assume that this is what passes as sarcasm for you? I was expecting a DA game myself and IMHO I received one.  But, YMMV.

[Elhanan]

Problem is that he is spot on with his post. He even left out a lot of things...

But the thing is, the Hinterlands are beautiful, the side-quests where one can help the helpless are positives, Tac-Cam and KB&M controls do work fine for myself after re-mapping the Keys, that dragon encounter was memorable, prefer fewer cut-scenes (game > film), Shards are both useful and optional, etc.

Agree that the Bottle quest should be re-thought, but that still does not detract from the remaining world as the best stomping ground I could have received for the holidays. Kudos to Bioware for the many awards; well deserved!

[AllThatJazz]

Problem is that he is spot on with his post. He even left out a lot of things...

No he's not. But of course, opinions vary 

[Vash654]

I'd like to say that the second half of my post was directed that those who attacked people rather than their points and who stated their opinion as fact.

 

DA:I is in my top 3 games of the year and I've only played it on the PC and PS4, should I not be allowed to put it in my top 3 because I haven't played it on other systems? Should people on YouTube not be allowed to do the same because they haven't played it on all systems, should people only allowed vote in a players choice award if they've played it on all the systems?

 

I ask these questions because DA:I has won more than one GOTY.

 

We've both played it on PC and come away with different opinions.

 

I think the tactical camera is at the perfect height outdoors, I don't like it when the camera is too high, I feel like I'm too far away from the action, like I can't see the fighting properly, even in Isometric games I tend to lower the camera if I can (a feature in Wasteland 2, that I really like).

 

As for your toggle suggestion, if BioWare put a toggle in for everything that people wanted a toggle for, than the first hour of the game would be spent toggling on or off all the different features of the game.

 

Anyway, I get why you don't agree with Angry Joe and I appreciate the fact that you have outlined what you don't like in your OP and expanded on it in further posts. 

 

I hope you understand where I'm coming from and why I'm trying to stress, on this thread, the difference between a fact about the game and an opinion on it.

Whats funny is your refuting the other posters points with your own opinion.  Like more options in game as far as giving us the option to toggle on and off auto attack, or the option to rebind other mouse buttons, etc etc.  Works for some and doesn't work for some, the fact that some people have issues means something was wrong, and it is a fact that they are limiting peoples options on how to play.  Stuff like this is barely mentioned in professional reviews, they are ignoring facts like these, facts that people have issues, and should have lowered the score because of it.  

 

It is a fact that some people with powerful machines are having technical issues http://answers.ea.co...ce/td-p/4126271

 

I would say that is some cases, as far as ui and controls go, that it is pretty evident this game was developed mainly for a controller, and kyb+ms was an afterthought.  Of course not in all cases, there is a lot of normal kyb+ms controls going on.  Tac game is a good example, controllers need that cursor to move around the map, kyb+ms don't need a second cursor to move around with WASD, we have the mouse that's all you need.  Some people find it fine, some people don't, but it is a fact that people are having problems and it clearly was a controller feature.  And reviewers also don't mention any of this.

 

I'll add one more... it's a fact that they dumbed down the tactics, and the ai isnt very smart (ranged going up into melee range).  Thought to be fair i have read the ai problems in reviews.

 

There are other things that make the game great, but there are still problems that were ignored, regardless of how one feels about the game or not.

[LinksOcarina]

Now I have a question.

 

If the problems are acknowledged and it's still game of the year, this conversation would be moot then, yes? 

[Vash654]

Now I have a question.

 

If the problems are acknowledged and it's still game of the year, this conversation would be moot then, yes? 

nah, I was just sad i was little mislead in reviews when i bought the game, probably would have held off for a lower price (i only really had to wait a month saw it for 40 bucks around xmas), ah well.  Can always hope for a patch.

 

and it would just go to show that this year was a weak year in gaming

[LinksOcarina]

I still disagree with that. If people really think the year was weak, then they need to really pay more attention. 

[Vash654]

I still disagree with that. If people really think the year was weak, then they need to really pay more attention. 

hmm yeah i guess you're right, I have been recently playing some of the games that won / nominated from diff sites and I have been finding some of them quite good.

[LinksOcarina]

What made the year strong, then? Genuinely curious.

 

I made a post about it earlier.

 

Let's see, first Nintendo finally hit a stride, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros on two systems, we had Bravely Default, Persona Q and Pokemon on the handhelds, and Bayonetta 2 which I haven't played but I hear good things about it as an action game.

 

We also have a year of indie games that are really good for once, Transistor being my favorite. We also had Child of Light, Costume Quest 2, Secret Poncho, Valiant Hearts, Shovel Knight, and so forth. A few re-releases of some older games as well on different platforms is also a nice boon. And I didn't like it, but some people enjoyed Divinity: Original Sin.

 

On the Playstation and Xbox, Shadows of Mordor was a surprise, Far Cry 4 is pretty good all things considered, Alien: Isolation was really good I hear, didn't play it though, and so was The Evil Within, it's another underrated title I feel, a little short though and some plot snags, much like the old FEAR games it had good atmosphere. I also thought Titanfall was good, just in moderation though. 

 

So really, the year was pretty good. It's easy to mock games like Assassins Creed, Destiny or Watch Dogs, but there are good games out there. People just focus on the negative too much, giving the impression of a "bad year." 

[Lady Mutare]

As Joe states, It is His list, not ours. I think Joe Fked up and didnt admit to NOT testing the PC and rather than change his original review and be called on it, he will stick with the review.  I said so in AJSA forums as well.

[JCAP]

I still disagree with that. If people really think the year was weak, then they need to really pay more attention. 

Weak? Maybe not, but it wasn't strong either.

 

I guess the problem lies with how most AAA games failed to deliver what they promised:

- Destiny was supposed to be next-gen shooter and all that, but nope. Just a COD MMO that will milk their customers if they want to enjoy it 100% (IMO, this is the worst case of DLC milking/abuse I ever seen).

- Watch Dogs was supposed to be the next-gen open world, some even said it would be even better than GTA V, but nope. Good game but it's not what they promised.

- Assassin's Creed is the biggest mess I ever seen. I was really looking forward for this game, but I knew something was up when they announced those ridiculous minimum requirements. I was a fanboy until black flag, but this entry shatered my love for the series. They need to do something special in the next entry if they want my love back.

 

 

Edit: Nintendo deserves applause and I'm happy for everyone who has a Wii U and 3DS. Personally I don't care much for their games (I don't see the appeal on Mario or Zelda. I recognize that they are the videogame industry main symbols but I think it's kinda ridiculous how much they recycle and use them in almost every game). But I think it's amazing how just 2 or 3 games boosted Wii U sales, so that's something I respect.

[His Majesty Lord Crash]

But the thing is, the Hinterlands are beautiful, the side-quests where one can help the helpless are positives, Tac-Cam and KB&M controls do work fine for myself after re-mapping the Keys, that dragon encounter was memorable, prefer fewer cut-scenes (game > film), Shards are both useful and optional, etc.

Agree that the Bottle quest should be re-thought, but that still does not detract from the remaining world as the best stomping ground I could have received for the holidays. Kudos to Bioware for the many awards; well deserved!

 

Most side quests are just bad and the few ok ones are not good enough to turn the tides. Shards are not useful, they are just collectibles that can be used to get some resistencies and gear. Almost everything in the game is a pointless collectible. It's indeed a SP MMO which is truly a contradiction in itself. Whoever came up with this isn't worth being called game designer, sorry.

 

The button mashing action gameplay is pathetic and the tac cam barely usable and a real downgrade from Origins. It feels clunky and the zoom level is laughable. It's more broken than functional. The PC controls are a real downgrade in general as well no matter if you get "accustomed" to them or not. They feel clunky as the whole navigation and controls in the menus and inventory feels tedious.

 

The world itself is static and unimmersive and the size ratios are completely off. The world bascially doesn't function without you which is the prime mistake you could do when designing a game world. It surely LOOKS good but good looking values aren't worth anything if the gameplay and the game itself sucks...

[AllThatJazz]

Weak? Maybe not, but it wasn't strong either.

 

I guess the problem lies with how most AAA games failed to deliver what they promised:

- Destiny was supposed to be next-gen shooter and all that, but nope. Just a COD MMO that will milk their customers if they want to enjoy it 100% (IMO, this is the worst case of DLC milking/abuse I ever seen).

- Watch Dogs was supposed to be the next-gen open world, some even said it would be even better than GTA V, but nope. Good game but it's not what they promised.

- Assassin's Creed is the biggest mess I ever seen. I was really looking forward for this game, but I knew something was up when they announced those ridiculous minimum requirements. I was a fanboy until black flag, but this entry shatered my love for the series. They need to do something special in the next entry if they want my love back.

Bayonetta 2, Divinity, Shadowrun, Wasteland 2, South Park, Alien: Isolation, Wolfenstein, Ace Attorney V, Farcry 4, plus DAI. Been a fantastic year for me. Destiny, Ass Creed and Watch Dogs aren't games I was ever interested in anyway.

[LinksOcarina]

Weak? Maybe not, but it wasn't strong either.

 

I guess the problem lies with how most AAA games failed to deliver what they promised:

- Destiny was supposed to be next-gen shooter and all that, but nope. Just a COD MMO that will milk their customers if they want to enjoy it 100% (IMO, this is the worst case of DLC milking/abuse I ever seen).

- Watch Dogs was supposed to be the next-gen open world, some even said it would be even better than GTA V, but nope. Good game but it's not what they promised.

- Assassin's Creed is the biggest mess I ever seen. I was really looking forward for this game, but I knew something was up when they announced those ridiculous minimum requirements. I was a fanboy until black flag, but this entry shatered my love for the series. They need to do something special in the next entry if they want my love back.

 

 

Edit: Nintendo deserves applause and I'm happy for everyone who has a Wii U and 3DS. Personally I don't care much for their games (I don't see the appeal on Mario or Zelda. I recognize that they are the videogame industry main symbols but I think it's kinda ridiculous how much they recycle and use them). But I think it's amazing how just 2 or 3 games boosted Wii U sales, so that's something I respect.

 

 

The three games everyone keeps going to do not equate a whole year though. If it's  a "AAA" thing that is the metric of a good year now, then the guys making stuff like Call of Duty basically have achieved their goal then of making AAA titles being the focus, instead of a part, of the industry.

[FaWa]

DAI is the best game I've played this year. It's far from perfect but I liked enough about it where it gets my vote. But this year hasn't been the most exciting, either.