I'm really surprised that this guy liked DAI more than Mordor (which I haven't played yet, but intend to).
I'm also surprised that hearing the soundtrack for DAI i this video still managed to physically give me chills, and I was breathless. I think this game may have affected me far more than I give it credit.
Maybe you would like to point me to a copy of DA2 with tactical cam because the last I check - IT DOES NOT EXISTS.
Some people simply cannot understand the difference between objective opinion and subjective opinion. Worse still are those who conjurer things that does not exists to make their pathetic opinion looks more legit.
Or maybe it is your opinion that wave spawning crap all over the place is actually "tactical"
Of course there exists not tactical cam in neither DAO nor DA2 - it was all ONE SYSTEM in those games. No two seperate systems were needed in those games on PC. And of course DA2 offered a worse tactical experience but it's still better than the one in DAI because you don't have to use a barely functional system that was clearly just an afterthought.
And no, the discussion about the depth of tactical gameplay is not subjective. It's something you can measure and examine quite well if you have at least basic understanding of and experience with game design.
Of course there exists not tactical cam in neither DAO nor DA2 - it was all ONE SYSTEM in those games. No two seperate systems were needed in those games on PC. And of course DA2 offered a worse tactical experience but it's still better than the one in DAI because you don't have to use a barely functional system that was clearly just an afterthought.
And no, the discussion about the depth of tactical gameplay is not subjective. It's something you can measure and examine quite well if you have at least basic understanding of and experience with game design.
Wait.. da2 tactics aren't worse the dao. And no that's not a subjective point. Da2 has better crowd control abilities and tactics then DAO.
Relevance may be subjective, as my Inquisitor was designed to help those affected by the War and the outcasts of society; folks like himself (ie; Carta Dwarf). As such, I do not mind aiding older people, children, farmers, etc, and have the ability to speak a bit more clear than Sera trying to do the same sort of thing. And I passed on quests that were not relevant to my Inquisitor, as there are numerous ways besides Questing to gain XP, Power, etc. Clearing a Journal is only a single option.
No need to defend Shards; they can benefit the Inquisitor, as well as expand the moral choices in the game. Once discovered how the Oculariums are crafted, does one continue to use them? Does one collect them all? Does one discard the Shards completely even though the dead have already suffered? More options, and includes a memorable tale if one stops to read and listen.
My Tac-Cam works well, and allows for gleaning info from tight spots that were not able to be seen in DA2. I also like the idea that by turning in research data opens up more intel on that enemy. At least it works for me, as I do not expect to have all old systems on new products. Plus, I practiced in the tutorial due to my RL limitations.
Comparing an Action game I cannot play (nor would play if possible) to a RPG is unwise. And based on the reviewed thrashing I have seen on said Action game, I may not be the one here with the questionable taste. And laughter can be a side effect of humorous dialogue, enjoyment, and entertainment; not just seemingly arrogant sneering by those that believe they know better than their lessers.
You made up your own stories in your mind and that's cool. But that doesn't change the simple fact that the game is full of filler content and typcial MMO style fetch quests. Same is true for stuff like the shards. Bascially they are just stuft to search with some basic background connected to them. You made up a story for yourself to make them more meaningful. More power to you but I tend to review the product at hand and not what I've made with my mind to make up for the lacking stuff that is there...
And the tac cam doesn't work nice. It has no stackable orders for party members. It's zoom level is pathetic. It's control is clunky at best. And of course the damage-output focus of the whole gameplay doesn't help the tactical gameplay neither. And no, it's not about having old systems for the sake of having old systems. It's about the simple fact that the old system anno 2009 is vastly superior to DAI's tac cam no matter if you got yourself somehow accustomed to it or not...
And about the "action game": I compared the GAME WORLDS, not the gameplay or the story or whatever. The game world in AC Unity is just vastly superior to the one in DAI no matter if you like the overall game and the gameplay or not (and so it's pretty pointless to question my personal taste here since I never spoke about my taste or whether I like or prefer AC Unity..). And even the "trashing reviews" almost universally acclaimed the great world of AC Unity. So don't even try to come up with such straw man arguments...
Usually happens when you get more sophisticated. You tend to be a bigger critic in the area you know more than the mass. Also do you even know what ''LOWLIFE'' mean ? I can't even comprehend why you received 19 like. This is the stupidest thing I have read on these forum in a while, but if that help you get to bed by belittling the ''opinion'' of others than go for it big guy.
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More like your just arrogant and what thing to be as the way they were.
Wait.. da2 tactics aren't worse the dao. And no that's not a subjective point. Da2 has better crowd control abilities and tactics then DAO.
Indeed, it has better crowd control. But it also has less zoom in combat, a more clunky camera, more tedious controls, a worse UI, a much increased gameplay speed (which isn't helpful for tactical gameplay...) and it also has a lot more enemy respawn. All of that makes the game less suited and enjoyable as a tactical game (at least for me). Still much better than DAI though...
Indeed, it has better crowd control. But it also has less zoom in combat, a more clunky camera, more tedious controls, a worse UI, a much increased gameplay speed (which isn't helpful for tactical gameplay...) and it also has a lot more enemy respawn. All of that makes the game less suited and enjoyable as a tactical game (at least for me). Still much better than DAI though...
the ui is fine. The combat ui is a cleaner version of origin. The system ui is fine as well.(And your complaining after what we got with dai?) limited zoom is a preference with it being an issue and can be worked around using the min-map and looking around. And speed is pointless to complain about in a game you can pause time, you just need to move you character from time to time and watch your back. the complain is basically "this is not orgins so it must be bad." Really, da2 tactics are not bad at all if stop playing it like dao.
You made up your own stories in your mind and that's cool. But that doesn't change the simple fact that the game is full of filler content and typcial MMO style fetch quests. Same is true for stuff like the shards. Bascially they are just stuft to search with some basic background connected to them. You made up a story for yourself to make them more meaningful. More power to you but I tend to review the product at hand and not what I've made with my mind to make up for the lacking stuff that is there...
And the tac cam doesn't work nice. It has no stackable orders for party members. It's zoom level is pathetic. It's control is clunky at best. And of course the damage-output focus of the whole gameplay doesn't help the tactical gameplay neither. And no, it's not about having old systems for the sake of having old systems. It's about the simple fact that the old system anno 2009 is vastly superior to DAI's tac cam no matter if you got yourself somehow accustomed to it or not...
And about the "action game": I compared the GAME WORLDS, not the gameplay or the story or whatever. The game world in AC Unity is just vastly superior to the one in DAI no matter if you like the overall game and the gameplay or not (and so it's pretty pointless to question my personal taste here since I never spoke about my taste or whether I like or prefer AC Unity..). And even the "trashing reviews" almost universally acclaimed the great world of AC Unity. So don't even try to come up with such straw man arguments...
My opinion? This "Angry Joe" doesn't play the games....not for hours. He's a shill. His words can NOT be believed...he's more paid actor now than any sort of reputable gaming critic...if he ever was. Too much flash, and no REAL critiques upon the actual games. Too much video production....much too much.
I love opinions about games because everyone has one. The problem I have with opinions is that posters are always ready to dismiss the other person's opinion. I prefer to hear the person's opinion, give my counter opinion and then if necessary agree to disagree. Personal attacks and demeaning someone else's standards as low is unwarranted and unnecessary in my opinion. IMHO the minute someone denigrates someone else's standards it cheapens the discussion and casts doubt on one's own opinion.
Angry Joe gave his opinion on what games he considered his top ten. I feel that some people on this thread are basically upset by whatever (if any) influence he may have on people who are deciding whether to buy the game or not. If that opinion causes an increase of sales for DAI, Bioware may feel that the direction Bioware is taking is justified.
I only know that the tale of success will be in the sales. But, YMMV.
Angry Joe gave his opinion on what games he considered his top ten. I feel that some people on this thread are basically upset by whatever (if any) influence he may have on people who are deciding whether to buy the game or not. If that opinion causes an increase of sales for DAI, Bioware may feel that the direction Bioware is taking is justified.
My opinion? This "Angry Joe" doesn't play the games....not for hours. He's a shill. His words can NOT be believed...he's more paid actor now than any sort of reputable gaming critic...if he ever was. Too much flash, and no REAL critiques upon the actual games. Too much video production....much too much.
its basically the same as here just the other way 
even people not played the game complain about it 
I love opinions about games because everyone has one. The problem I have with opinions is that posters are always ready to dismiss the other person's opinion. I prefer to hear the person's opinion, give my counter opinion and then if necessary agree to disagree. Personal attacks and demeaning someone else's standards as low is unwarranted and unnecessary in my opinion. IMHO the minute someone denigrates someone else's standards it cheapens the discussion and casts doubt on one's own opinion.
Angry Joe gave his opinion on what games he considered his top ten. I feel that some people on this thread are basically upset by whatever (if any) influence he may have on people who are deciding whether to buy the game or not. If that opinion causes an increase of sales for DAI, Bioware may feel that the direction Bioware is taking is justified.
I only know that the tale of success will be in the sales. But, YMMV.
I feel that so many people who discuss video games lack perspective, it's maddening. They can't just like something and dislike something else, oh no. The thing they like is the Best Thing Ever, Fact, and the things they don't like are the Worst Things Ever, Fact. Anyone who deviates from this self-proclaimed gospel is either paid or has their head up their ass, or doesn't know what's good for them.
This happens in most video game fandoms, I'm not targetting anyone in particular here (albeit this thread has yielded some shining examples, from both ''sides''). But it sure gets very tiring, very fast.
I feel that so many people who discuss video games lack perspective, it's maddening. They can't just like something and dislike something else, oh no. The thing they like is the Best Thing Ever, Fact, and the things they don't like are the Worst Things Ever, Fact. Anyone who deviates from this self-proclaimed gospel is either paid or has their head up their ass, or doesn't know what's good for them.
This happens in most video game fandoms, I'm not targetting anyone in particular here (albeit this thread has yielded some shining examples, from both ''sides''). But it sure gets very tiring, very fast.
I find it interesting that when AJ blasted ME3 he was spot on, but because he likes DAI he is now demonized called a sell out or fan boy. As long as AJ's opinion is inline with that person's opinion he is golden, otherwise he is receiving a check from the developers.
As LinksOcarina states AJ is an opinion leader and that scares some people especially if he is liking a game they do not. I do not always agree with AJ, but I respect that it is his opinion.
The point that he played and reviewed a small amount of games (assuming that is the case) can be good. If he is utilizing that time to fully play the game before reviewing that is good. Given that point he or anyone else can only play a certain number of games in the year. So he may have a bias on what games he will play. He definitely mentions that he has not played 2014 Wii games .
In the end its his opinion. It is up to his viewers to decide whether to listen to him or not.
The fact that Angry Joe is considered an opinion leader says all I need to know about the state of the criticism in the gaming world. It's bush league criticism interspersed with bad frat boy humor. He's the very definition of how internet criticism has destroyed criticism in general. Forget the gaming world. This is a problem in literary, film and television critique as well. Every form of media is now filled with amateurs with a web cam who have never actually studied the art of criticism telling people what to buy. Meanwhile critics who write beautifully about the craft they are critiquing are all finding themselves out of job.
Little off topic, but it kind of makes me sad.
The fact that Angry Joe is considered an opinion leader says all I need to know about the state of the criticism in the gaming world. It's bush league criticism interspersed with bad frat boy humor. He's the very definition of how internet criticism has destroyed criticism in general. Forget the gaming world. This is a problem in literary, film and television critique as well. Every form of media is now filled with amateurs with a web cam who have never actually studied the art of criticism telling people what to buy. Meanwhile critics who write beautifully about the craft they are critiquing are all finding themselves out of job.
Little off topic, but it kind of makes me sad.
to be honest, professionals are not better than the average youtuber. first they have to test a lot of games in the same time when a youtuber can only test one, second the gaming sites are much more dependend on the gaming industry.
i read a lot of "professional" reviews you could clearly see he just played the game 50% or copy and pasted from others, saw reviews of people testing since years and are still to dump to read tutorials and blame the game for things they dont get, other hype their prefered games no matter what etc.
there are a lot of jerks outthere, but there are pretty good reviewers too (better than most wage slaves). its like always in the internet, if you want a proper information about something you have to search for it.
to be honest, professionals are not better than the average youtuber. first they have to test a lot of games in the same time when a youtuber can only test one, second the gaming sites are much more dependend on the gaming industry.
i read a lot of "professional" reviews you could clearly see he just played the game 50% or copy and pasted from others, saw reviews of people testing since years and are still to dump to read tutorials and blame the game for things they dont get, other hype their prefered games no matter what etc.
there are a lot of jerks outthere, but there are pretty good reviewers too (better than most wage slaves). its like always in the internet, if you want a proper information about something you have to search for it.
Oh, don't get me wrong. The so called "professional" reviewers who work for the big media sites are no better. The guy, (his name escapes me), who reviewed Dragon Inquisition for Gamespot is one of the few I can stomach.
Of course there exists not tactical cam in neither DAO nor DA2 - it was all ONE SYSTEM in those games. No two seperate systems were needed in those games on PC. And of course DA2 offered a worse tactical experience but it's still better than the one in DAI because you don't have to use a barely functional system that was clearly just an afterthought.
And no, the discussion about the depth of tactical gameplay is not subjective. It's something you can measure and examine quite well if you have at least basic understanding of and experience with game design.
Oh great. So you are saying that DAI should remove the Tactical Cam and revert to DA2 with only a pause option. Because having a tactical cam that is hard to navigate is clearly better than it not existing at all. You do not realize that just tweaking behavior and pausing the game without using the tactical cam makes the game basically the same as DA2?
For all the problems some are facing with the seemingly broken DAI tactical camera, there are many of us who agree that it is hard to navigate but has no problem whatsoever in getting it to work after a couple of hours.
Claiming DA2 to have better "tactical experience" is a measurable game experience with game design? Right~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
Joe needs to do more reviews. I dont know what's keeping him, his fan base is there and waiting for them.
He's like the only YouTuber who can put up a game review nearly a month after a games release, and still get over 1 million views in 24 hours.
And I disagree with his GoTY. DA was good, but I think Mordor should've won it.
Whatever floats your boat man... Mordor to me was the same rehashed Hack, Slash, Counter game thats been done to death the past few years with a heaping of good ol' fanboy slapped all over it to sell to the masses. I love the Lord of the Rings, read all the books when i was young, watched all the movies, yet the game just feels tired.
>2014 was bad
Nintendo and Platinum Games saving videogames once again.
Because having a tactical cam that is hard to navigate is clearly better than it not existing at all.
No, because wasting time developing a completely useless "tactical" cam is clearly worse than putting those resources elsewhere.
In an actual (script-like) tactics system for example.
No, because wasting time developing a completely useless "tactical" cam is clearly worse than putting those resources elsewhere.
And it would be pretty pointless to go on to CDPR's forum and complain about TW3 since the game isn't even released yet. But once you've bought the game next year (for good money) and played it yourself you're free to go there and complain. That's called honest feedback. Or do you think a board about a game is only about brownnosing and adulation?
And I imagine how much you complained about the input scheme controls of W2, isn't it? Naturally those are muuuuuch better than DA:I, lol (to the point that without the later mod the game is almost unplayable using signs intermingled with attacks and when the game came out the targeting was so erratic and the input response so laggy that it was one of the objectively worst control schemes probably ever published in an AAA title, and it is STILL not corrected to work fluidly - this for greatly decanted CDPR fan support).
Seriously, complaining about DA:I gameplay input scheme controls when you are a Witcher 2 fanboy is like going in a hard rock forum and complaining that Kiss are "too pop" when you are a diehard fanboy of Justin Bieber. It's so hypocritical it makes all the hairs on your body stand still for protest.
Oh well... to everyone's his/her own I guess.
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