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[phantomrachie]

I'd put DA:I in my top 3 of the year at least, if not #1.

 

but it seems that I missed the cheque I was supposed to get from BioWare for liking the game.

 

My cheque is missing too, I'm sure it just caught up in the backlog over Christmas and it'll arrive soon.

 

Pointless to argue with fanboys.

 

Yes, it's much easier to dismiss a person than it is to counter their argument.

 

It's not even like you made an argument, all you basically said was 'I'm right and you all are wrong, end of' which is not really an argument.

[FireAndBlood]

The butt hurt is strong in this thread.

[Scerene]

So...now I guess AJ is an evil corporate sell-out because he likes to play the game and can enjoy it, and states his reasons why, and also mentions the weaknessess as well?

 

BURN HIM! ... And I also guess if he had trashed the game unfair into the waste-bin he would be some kind of hero to the usual people around here?

 

Well, while AJ surely is counting all the evil EA-Money he reeived for his evil review on the evil Dragon Age sellout, I will call Fox Mulder to have a look in this evil conspiracy, where people dare to like an RPG that is not like DAO ... the truth is out there ... no wait, its here on BSN, that's a FACT ^^

i never mentioned DAO, and ive never been deluded about its flaws. My thoughts on this idiot are not based on this alone, after having watched him embarrass himself countless times in his vids. In the past i thought him sincere, albeit sad and foolish, and watched his vids for the laughs, but now, based on the changes in his tone, its not difficult to deduct. Where do you see anyone here suggesting the game should be in the trash-bin? People keep saying its a great game, but more flawed than its made out to be, by "professional reviewers", which is true. How do you explain that practically -none- of them mention the absolutely horrendous controls on the pc, something that is inescapably obvious if you attempt to play a melee char? How do you explain that none of them mentioned the terrible performance and glitches or how the game hogs up to 70% and higher  of your cpu's resources, and all of your gpu, and a huge portion of your memory? While offering terrible performance on high end rigs? Its a great but very flawed game. Games with better graphics, and more demanding specs run far better with far less resource hog

[outlaw1109]

It was pretty amusing. The first thing that happened was the professional reviews came out, and all the flamers started pointing to the user score of Metacritic and saying the people's opinion was all that mattered. Then it became apparent, through other sites on the web and the vast number of Reader's Choice GOTY awards it was winning, that the majority of people had a very high opinion of Inquisition and Metacritic was an anomaly, and so they said they pay attention to Youtube gamers. Now Angry Joe has called Inquisition his GOTY...

I actually didn't buy this game (DA:I) because of all the negative feedback on here.  I waited.  Partly because I wanted to give them a chance to patch it before bugs spoiled my view on it, but partly because BSN AND metacritic had all sorts of poor user reviews.

Then, a friend of mine showed me some YouTube "Let's Plays" and I just had to buy it.

Of course it's not DAO:2.  Why would it be?  When has Bioware ever established a precedent of building near-to-exact replicas for it's sequels?

AJ, however, has had me generally suspicious of his reviews ever since DA2.  Even though he had apologized...trust is like a vase:  once broken, you can fix it, but it will never be the same.

 

[Cyonan]

I feel like I need to call Sesame Street to come explain to this thread what the word "opinion" means.

[evgenija28]

As you asked. My opinion is it's a great game:
(based on 450 hours play)

Most of the whining is limited to BSN.
(and some low-lifes on youtube with orientation 'issues')

The press keep giving out GOTYs to the game.

Tactical view, villain impact and fetch quest content concerns are minor quibbles.

Happy and agree with Angry Joe's assessment on this.

OP, you say you assessment is based on what your friend said?
Have you not played the game?

I did 25+ hours, up until Skyhold and a bit beyond that. My friend is still playing, and I tune in to her playing here and there when it's not tied to the main plot a lot. She likes characters, story here and there, graphics, but dislikes ui, pc controls mostly, too many things to do in areas - like collecting shards, mosaics and such. Pretty much the usual complaints.

[phantomrachie]

I feel like I need to call Sesame Street to come explain to this thread what the word "opinion" means.

 

Not great quality but will this do?

 

[keyip]

AJ, however, has had me generally suspicious of his reviews ever since DA2.  Even though he had apologized...trust is like a vase:  once broken, you can fix it, but it will never be the same.

 

People tend to be overly suspicious whenever somebody posts a review they don't agree with. If only "objective" reviews were valid in any sort of industry, there would only need to be 1 review released for each product. But there isn't, because a review is a reflection of how an individual enjoyed and viewed a product. Which is why one of my favourite Movie Review programs had 2 reviewers review a movie - one gave it 4/5 and the other gave it a 0/5.

[Panda]

I'd wait until it's fixed to it's glory before ranking it. Especially that high.

[teks]

Angry joe has been consistent and solid in his review. He steered me away from beyond earth, which I sampled and it was even worse then what he said. He steered me away from rome 2 which was also a huge dissappointment. He proves that he plays the games he reviews, which is more then most reviewers can do.

 

This game is fantastic. Minor quibbles about the game are minor. As a whole the game is just plain awesome. I bought it as an xmas present for a few of my cousins. I can't play the game enough, mostly because my girlfriend has logged more hours then me, and she isn't even a gamer.

[Scerene]

I feel like I need to call Sesame Street to come explain to this thread what the word "opinion" means.

you do realize that some things are -objective-. The games ui was clearly not made for the pc, something everybody who plays on the pc has repeated, and a whopping 70-100%, of your cpu hogged on the pc by this game, even when tabbed out or looking at the inventory screen, which many pc users report, is not "subjectively" bad, it -is- bad, along with 100% of your gpu and a ton of memory, while offering shitty fps. Ive never had a game hog so much of my cpu or memory, even ones that are better looking and more demanding than DAI, which is even more of a concern when the performance isnt nearly on par with how much it drains.

[evgenija28]

I'm honestly surprised this game has got so much praise. As each new DA game comes out there seem to be more and more restrictions. This is supposed to be a Role play game not a Restriction play game.

 

Don't get me wrong Dragon age inquisition is a great game but i'm just suprised that all these so called "professional reviewers" seemed to miss the glaring problems that are within inquisition

 

I will be sure to check it out tomorrow, I don't have time right now, and I'll tell you what I think of it 

[evgenija28]

you do realize that some things are -objective-. The games ui was clearly not made for the pc, something everybody who plays on the pc has repeated, and a whopping 70-100%, of your cpu hogged on the pc by this game, even when tabbed out or looking at the inventory screen, which many pc users report, is not "subjectively" bad, it -is- bad, along with 100% of your gpu and a ton of memory, while offering shitty fps. Ive never had a game hog so much of my cpu or memory, even ones that are better looking and more demanding than DAI, which is even more of a concern when the performance isnt nearly on par with how much it drains.

 

I agree, My friend had frame drops after about an hour or two playing that she had to exit the game, clean ram or something, then start again. Although it doesn't happen that often. Also, pc UI being horrendous is a fact, I agree, those that say it's not bad probably lack a comparison to the previous games or use a controller. The thing that struck me is the fact that you can use a controller for a pc - that didn't exist before because the pc UI was very unique, and now that we have a choice, we basically don't.

[teks]

you do realize that some things are -objective-. The games ui was clearly not made for the pc, something everybody who plays on the pc has repeated, and a whopping 70-100%, of your cpu hogged on the pc by this game, even when tabbed out or looking at the inventory screen, which many pc users report, is not "subjectively" bad, it -is- bad, along with 100% of your gpu and a ton of memory, while offering shitty fps. Ive never had a game hog so much of my cpu or memory, even ones that are better looking and more demanding than DAI, which is even more of a concern when the performance isnt nearly on par with how much it drains.

Video games hog 70-100% of the CPU and GPU, no way....

The game is CPU heavy because its loading massive maps compared to most games. Don't blame DAI for ayour crappy computer. I'm running this game no problem with an AMD A-10 and no graphics card what-so-ever.

 

Your post is subjective BTW.

 

If you guys are having trouble playing this game on a PC and your computer does not suck. do this.

1. Update your drivers
2. Get rid of all your malware. If you hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE and there are over 50 processes running, you have malware.
3. Run Razor game booster. It stops background processes.
4. Clean your PC. If your getting sharp performance drops after a couple hours, there is a serious possibility your processor is throttling because its too hot. This may not happen in other games because this one is more CPU heavy with the big maps.

[Cyonan]

you do realize that some things are -objective-. The games ui was clearly not made for the pc, something everybody who plays on the pc has repeated, and a whopping 70-100%, of your cpu hogged on the pc by this game, even when tabbed out or looking at the inventory screen, which many pc users report, is not "subjectively" bad, it -is- bad, along with 100% of your gpu and a ton of memory, while offering shitty fps. Ive never had a game hog so much of my cpu or memory, even ones that are better looking and more demanding than DAI, which is even more of a concern when the performance isnt nearly on par with how much it drains.

 

You do realize that just because I said some people don't understand what opinions are that doesn't mean I'm saying absolutely everything about the game is subjective, right?

 

Except the UI, that's kind of subjective and I've seen people posting saying that the PC one is fine. Personally the only part I don't like is the tactical cam, but find the rest of it fine. A lot of people agreeing that it's not good doesn't necessarily make it objective fact.

[phantomrachie]

 Also, pc UI being horrendous is a fact

 

No, just no. This is not a fact. Some people hate it, some people think it is fine and some people don't care, it is not a fact.

 

A fact would be, there are dragons in this game or the game crashes on launch for some people, or that is uses a bit too much of my CPU. 

 

UI's are notoriously difficult to create due to the simple fact that everyone has slightly different expectations and opinions. A UI that works for one person may not work for another.

 

Countless people have explained to me why Apple's UI for the iPhone is very user friendly, but as a person who is more used to the android UI I don't agree, because Apple does some things in a weird way.

 

I think the PC UI is fine, not the greatest I've experienced but most definitely not the worst.

 

Some older games UIs are terrible for the modern player because older PC games had an almost completely different UI rational.

[evgenija28]

Video games hog 70-100% of the CPU and GPU, no way....
The game is CPU heavy because its loading massive maps compared to most games. Don't blame DAI for ayour crappy computer. I'm running this game no problem with an AMD A-10 and no graphics card what-so-ever.

Your post is subjective BTW.

If you guys are having trouble playing this game on a PC and your computer does not suck. do this.

• Update your drivers
• Get rid of all your malware. If you hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE and there are over 50 processes running, you have malware.
• Run Razor game booster. It stops background processes.
• Clean your PC. If your getting sharp performance drops after a couple hours, there is a serious possibility your processor is throttling because its too hot. This may not happen in other games because this one is more CPU heavy with the big maps.

Hah, well her pc is very well mantained, drivers are updated, no malware, anti malware and antivirus software is a must, and if our pcs are that crappy then how come other games don't cause that and are with the same requirements? And I said, it's not that often, it happens. It's not something I would personally hold it against this game, if it is not that often - I can live with it. There are other things wrong with this game - for example, and I've recently tuned into a thread specifically about that - xbox360 and ps3 versions have loads of problems. GOTY award is not for a game that is good but has glitches (no worries, patches are there!) but for a game that since its launch delivered what it promised. And I see there are promises not kept.

[BammBamm]

i never mentioned DAO, and ive never been deluded about its flaws. My thoughts on this idiot are not based on this alone, after having watched him embarrass himself countless times in his vids. In the past i thought him sincere, albeit sad and foolish, and watched his vids for the laughs, but now, based on the changes in his tone, its not difficult to deduct. Where do you see anyone here suggesting the game should be in the trash-bin? People keep saying its a great game, but more flawed than its made out to be, by "professional reviewers", which is true. How do you explain that practically -none- of them mention the absolutely horrendous controls on the pc, something that is inescapably obvious if you attempt to play a melee char? How do you explain that none of them mentioned the terrible performance and glitches or how the game hogs up to 70% and higher  of your cpu's resources, and all of your gpu, and a huge portion of your memory? While offering terrible performance on high end rigs? Its a great but very flawed game. Games with better graphics, and more demanding specs run far better with far less resource hog

 

maybe because the controls of the game are not so bad as some people want them to be? and thats from a m+kb player with a d/d rogue pretty sure the game could be played without bigger problems from anyone which not focused on only one single type of gamestyle, wasd is not new nor rocketscience and the tactical mode is basically the same as the pause mode in origins, the only difference is you move the camera with wasd instead of mousecursor and the game is not hard enough for the need of a tactical overview like in origins (there it wasnt needed too). so i really have to ask if the controls are the problem or people so unflexible to move a camera with keyboard instead of mouse and are unable to play a not so hard game with a top down view of the whole battlefield. yeah it would be nice some things would have been different, but to state the controls are terrible and the game is unplayable because of this is just drama and nothing else.

[outlaw1109]

 

Video games hog 70-500% of the CPU and GPU, no way....

The game is CPU heavy because its loading massive maps compared to most games. Don't blame DAI for ayour crappy computer. I'm running this game no problem with an AMD A-10 and no graphics card what-so-ever.

 

Your post is subjective BTW.

 

I doubt it has anything to do with "massive maps".  Skyrim was (in large part) one massive map that my PC ran fine even after I modded it (think I run it with something around 30-35 mods).  If it fits the minimum requirements, it should, theoretically, run fine.  That's the reason those exist, is it not?

(just as a side note, my PC exceeds the "recommended" list and still stutters a bit much for this game.)
 

 

People tend to be overly suspicious whenever somebody posts a review they don't agree with. If only "objective" reviews were valid in any sort of industry, there would only need to be 1 review released for each product. But there isn't, because a review is a reflection of how an individual enjoyed and viewed a product. Which is why one of my favourite Movie Review programs had 2 reviewers review a movie - one gave it 4/5 and the other gave it a 0/5.

I wouldn't call it overly suspicious, though.  It's not about objectivity, to me, it's about having tastes in-line with certain reviewers.  In the past, I would pay attention to reviewers that (for the most part) shared the same opinions as me or pointed out the same flaws that I found.  It wasn't specifically the flaws he found in DA2 that really made me suspicious, it was the reasons, IIRC, he gave for it being good coupled with the flaws he pointed out.

[SomeUsername]

This new internet era should be named the Opinion Age. A time where people argue by throwing out "OPINION/SUBJECTIVE!!!" whenever they disagree. I wonder what's after!

[evgenija28]

No, just no. This is not a fact. Some people hate it, some people think it is fine and some people don't care, it is not a fact.

A fact would be, there are dragons in this game or the game crashes on launch for some people, or that is uses a bit too much of my CPU.

UI's are notoriously difficult to create due to the simple fact that everyone has slightly different expectations and opinions. A UI that works for one person may not work for another.

Countless people have explained to me why Apple's UI for the iPhone is very user friendly, but as a person who is more used to the android UI I don't agree, because Apple does some things in a weird way.

I think the PC UI is fine, not the greatest I've experienced but most definitely not the worst.

Some older games UIs are terrible for the modern player because older PC games had an almost completely different UI rational.

I'm sorry, I just realized I expressed myself in a wrong way - UI is bad for me, yes, it's not a fact, but how do you call useless tactical camera that goes into mountains, no auto-attack, companions not listening to their orders, simple tactics? Ah, yes. Gameplay is bad. They said it won't be like that. No need to worry, m&k we keep in mind. Every time you attack you must press a button, every time you want to collect something you must walk towards it, etc. One twitch stream with m&k should have been a warning I guess. But I don't want to argue and come of as bitter - we are all allowed to have our own opinion.

[Cyonan]

This new internet era should be named the Opinion Age. A time where people argue by throwing out "OPINION/SUBJECTIVE!!!" whenever they disagree. I wonder what's after!

 

It's the counter-part to "Anybody who disagrees with me is wrong", and requires just as much thought.

 

Unless you simply want to call them an idiot or ignore them and move on, anyways.

[evgenija28]

This new internet era should be named the Opinion Age. A time where people argue by throwing out "OPINION/SUBJECTIVE!!!" whenever they disagree. I wonder what's after!

That sounded awfully like something Dorian would say xD

[keyip]

 

I doubt it has anything to do with "massive maps".  Skyrim was (in large part) one massive map that my PC ran fine even after I modded it (think I run it with something around 30-35 mods).  If it fits the minimum requirements, it should, theoretically, run fine.  That's the reason those exist, is it not?

 

 

Bethesda's games start getting problems the longer you go into the game IIRC

[DarkKnightHolmes]

DAI was my GOTY too but that's because it was an extremely sucky and bug ridden year. If Witcher 3 came out this year, I would have like to see who would have won heads on.