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[Xiomara]

Am I missing something here? Is Angry Joe not allowed to think DA:I is the best game of 2014?

[NedPepper]

They already made that game once.

  I know.  And outside of the story being excellent, made that game a grind to play.  Sounds familiar....

[NedPepper]

If they were hardcore fans, they wouldn't be divided. If they are then they weren't hardcore fans.

  Are you kidding me?  We're on the BSN.  I'd say that qualifies as hardcore fans.  And this place is ALWAYS divided.  I think, just, on general principle.  You can have two groups of people who hate a game arguing over WHY for ten pages.  And a group of fans who LOVE the game arguing over WHY for ten pages.  Bioware has the most fractured fanbase in gaming history.  (I imagine it must be a little....frustrating...for the devs.)

But, my general point is that when it comes to the overall consensus on Dragon Age: Inquisition among the hardcore, it's a decidedly mixed.  The gaming press is writing love letters.  And new players are also really digging the game.  I don't know what any of this means, exactly.  Just my observations.

[RawToast]

Honestly, DAI is a great game, but not amazing. However I do agree with Joe on this one. Though 2014 was a pretty disappointing year for games, so not much competition.

[AlanC9]

Anyway,I said your PC is crappy because mine is a $300 desktop I built with a cheap processor and no graphics card, but to be fair, I built the computer really well so its performance is higher then normal. If my computer can handle this game, other gaming computers should have no issues.

That sounds awfully cheap. What are your specs?

[Eelectrica]

For this year, it probably is the GOTY. A Bradbury one. All the competition fell over at the end.

[Al Foley]

As you asked. My opinion is it's a great game:

(based on 450 hours play)

 

Most of the whining is limited to BSN.

(and some low-lifes on youtube with orientation 'issues')

 

The press keep giving out GOTYs to the game.

 

Tactical view, villain impact and fetch quest content concerns are minor quibbles.

 

Happy and agree with Angry Joe's assessment on this.

 

OP, you say you assessment is based on what your friend said?

Have you not played the game?

Villain impact is a pretty major quibble given that its well...you-know-who.  And he was supposed to be awesome.  And it seems he is less then so.  The rest...sure.

[Deebo305]

Am I missing something here? Is Angry Joe not allowed to think DA:I is the best game of 2014?

Apparently having an opinion makes you sellout according to his "fans"

I'm starting to get why hes doing less and less catering to the "self proclaimed majority"

[Al Foley]

Apparently having an opinion makes you sellout according to his "fans"

I'm starting to get why hes doing less and less catering to the "self proclaimed majority"

Or just the really loud and vocal minority.  Just because someone yells the loudest and the most often does not mean their views are reprsentative.  

[Giantdeathrobot]

Am I missing something here? Is Angry Joe not allowed to think DA:I is the best game of 2014?

 

As seen in this thread, it's not a ''real'' RPG. ''Real'' gamers are only allowed to like a certain subset of games; anyone who doesn't subscribe to this particular taste is thus not a ''real'' gamer and is obviously either a drooling, tasteless imbecile or a sellout.

 

Yes, I'm exagerating, But by love, seeing some posts on the BSN and on other assorted websites it seems like some people really think like that.

 

Or maybe we could just admit that opinions exist and, that, like any other reviewers's, Angry Joe's videos are paid opinion pieces and nothing more. But that would be too boring I suppose.

[Darkoray]

Biggest problem with AAA titles including movies, is they are hyped up so much when you get the finished product it can't live up to the hype.

If you didn't expect so much would you be disappointed?

It's a double edge sword, don't hype the game/movie and its might not make the sales. Hype it and have disappointed customers because it was as good as they expected.

Personally I did not no anything about DA: I before I brought it. I played the first and second and liked them, I watched a couple of videos and it looked good and that was it. I love the game because I didn't expect much.

Angry Joe might be a bit off with the number 1 spot but if you knew nothing about the game before it released it could easily make number 1.

[keesio74]

Anyway,I said your PC is crappy because mine is a $300 desktop I built with a cheap processor and no graphics card, but to be fair, I built the computer really well so its performance is higher then normal. If my computer can handle this game, other gaming computers should have no issues. The only problems I have besides the occasional crash, is the sound getting out of sync when I enter a new area. Considering how cheap my computer is, I'm not too worried.

 

Same here. I have an ancient Q6600 (running stock 2.4 GHz) with an Nvidia 560ti 1GB VRAM. DA:I runs fairly smooth though I do run most graphics settings at "Medium" at 1680x1050 rez. The key is to find the settings the work best for your PC.

[Deebo305]

Or just the really loud and vocal minority. Just because someone yells the loudest and the most often does not mean their views are reprsentative.

I did say they were self proclaimed, loudest usually always claim to represent the entire fanbase not sure why but they do and I always gotta call them out for it

[zestalyn]

Polygon has also name Inquisition its #1 game of the year 

 

http://www.polygon.c...age-inquisition

 

I personally don't see why anyone should be surprised by Inquisition receiving the most prestigious accolades   Many of the most highly-anticipated triple A games that were competing with Inquisition's release were essentially rehashed sequels or ridiculously disappointing.

 

Polygon summarizes it well by saying "Inquisition aims so far that its foibles are forgivable." Angry Joe, and other similarly-minded critics echo the same point - the entertainment and fresh splendor gained from the overall journey overpower its flaws. I think this says alot about the many wonderful things Inquisition has executed well, as well as just how mediocre its competitors were by comparison. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

Biggest problem with AAA titles including movies, is they are hyped up so much when you get the finished product it can't live up to the hype.
If you didn't expect so much would you be disappointed?
It's a double edge sword, don't hype the game/movie and its might not make the sales. Hype it and have disappointed customers because it was as good as they expected.

There is a lot of truth to this, but there have been so many failures to live up to the hype (or even to release the actual game at all) in 2014 that a fair proportion of people are pretty burnt on the hype train. If you go read the comments on various web sites, they are filled with people who are completely cynical about major publishers and developers actually delivering something that resembles what they have been promoting. Maybe gamers are finally starting to wise up to the fact that they are being consistently deceived?

[CronoDragoon]

There is a lot of truth to this, but there have been so many failures to live up to the hype (or even to release the actual game at all) in 2014 that a fair proportion of people are pretty burnt on the hype train. If you go read the comments on various web sites, they are filled with people who are completely cynical about major publishers and developers actually delivering something that resembles what they have been promoting. Maybe gamers are finally starting to wise up to the fact that they are being consistently deceived?

 

I suppose that would catch them up with the rest of the human race when it comes to marketing.

[Maverick827]

My favorite quotes from Angry Joe's DAI review:

 

The bottom line is, you expect sequels to be leagues better than the original, however here, I think they took a lot of steps backwards in many important areas.  What you got is a game with weaker characters, weaker story, but improved gameplay and user interface.  It makes for an odd and slightly unexpected mix, especially from BioWare.  And I'm not saying it's a bad game, because it's a good game, you just need to curb your expectations a bit and know that you're getting into something different from the original.  Almost as if they're rebooting the series.

 

The characters are forgettable.  There just wasn't anybody interesting enough in the sequel as there was in Origins.  And why is this game a total sausage fest?  There are way too many whiny, emo, preachy dudes that want to have sex with me.  Can I get some female romance options up in here?

 

...then you got the barbarian, he-man woman, and a very weak, pixie female that's the only other romance option.  Great. Thanks.

 

The story can be summed up, without spoilers, in three big events...the problem is, by the end...the journey through each one isn't up to par.  Combine those letdowns with even more dumbing down of the RPG elements...it's really hard to give this game a glowing recommendation.  If you've never played Dragon Age, your better off starting with Origins.  It's the better game.

 

But the things that invest you in the game, your player character, your story, your companion characters, all leave something to be desired.  My final verdict, then, for the game, is a seven out of ten.  It is a great game, despite all of its faults.  As a fan of the original, who doesn't mind the combat change and the fantasy setting in general, this one is worth playing through.  You will get your money's worth.  But I don't think that I'll be giving this particular game all the multiple playthroughs that I did for the original.

 

Oh, I'm sorry, those were all quotes from his review of Dragon Age 2.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I suppose that would catch them up with the rest of the human race when it comes to marketing.

 

Having seen the nonsense that has gone on over the last few years (2014 being the worst), I've come to the conclusion that gamers, on average, are really not intelligent consumers, and that publishers keep using deceptive marketing tactics because gamers keep lapping it up. Until gamers wise up to this nonsense and develop some consumer awareness, they will continue to get screwed by the AAA publisher marketing.

[Giantdeathrobot]

There is a lot of truth to this, but there have been so many failures to live up to the hype (or even to release the actual game at all) in 2014 that a fair proportion of people are pretty burnt on the hype train. If you go read the comments on various web sites, they are filled with people who are completely cynical about major publishers and developers actually delivering something that resembles what they have been promoting. Maybe gamers are finally starting to wise up to the fact that they are being consistently deceived?

 

This is definitely the year that made it crystal clear that the pre-order hypetrain is something that must go. It's not just that many AAA tittles didn't live to the hype (hell I believe Inquisition didn't even if I love the game), but they went the extra mile of just not even being very good games for many players. Destiny, Halo MCC, Watch Dogs, Elder Scrolls Online, AssCreed Unity, The Crew, among others, were evidence of products that were either rushed, bug-ridden, bland or/and lacking in content. 

 

It's fortunate that indies (with Divinity, Shovel Knight and This War of Mine, among others) and less overly bloated publishers (Shadow of Mordor, Wolfenstein, Alien Isolation) delivered great titles, or this would have been one hell of a bad year. I would say this has been a pretty good year for games; you just have to avoid AAA releases.

 

I do have to admit that Inquisition probably wouldn't have won so many GOTY awards if it had serious competition in the single-player AAA sphere (which often seems to win those particular contests). For example, if The Last of Us had been released this year it would probably have edged it out.

[Darkoray]

Having seen the nonsense that has gone on over the last few years (2014 being the worst), I've come to the conclusion that gamers, on average, are really not intelligent consumers, and that publishers keep using deceptive marketing tactics because gamers keep lapping it up. Until gamers wise up to this nonsense and develop some consumer awareness, they will continue to get screwed by the AAA publisher marketing.

I agree with this.

As consumer we continue to follow the hype train and I'm pretty sure the big companies are laughing at us.

Still I have played the game for 30+ hours so far. $60 for 30 hours entertainment is pretty good. Maybe we should be happy with what we have

[RIPRemusTheTurian]

I have absolutely no problem with the mouse and keyboard controls.

Maybe it's because I beat Dark Souls with m+k but I really don't see any glaring issues.

[o Ventus]

I feel like the "other garbage that came our this year" people haven't played very many games that actually came out this year.

[Spankatola]

Polygon has also name Inquisition its #1 game of the year 

 

http://www.polygon.c...age-inquisition

 

I personally don't see why anyone should be surprised by Inquisition receiving the most prestigious accolades   Many of the most highly-anticipated triple A games that were competing with Inquisition's release were essentially rehashed sequels or ridiculously disappointing.

 

Polygon summarizes it well by saying "Inquisition aims so far that its foibles are forgivable." Angry Joe, and other similarly-minded critics echo the same point - the entertainment and fresh splendor gained from the overall journey overpower its flaws. I think this says alot about the many wonderful things Inquisition has executed well, as well as just how mediocre its competitors were by comparison. 

 

I think that's a great review. This is a biiiig **** off game, and I'm glad they made the attempt. Didn't turn out perfect but there are a bunch of great ideas and mechanics to carry forward to the next iteration. I'm really excited about what this game means for the franchise.

[teks]

  Are you kidding me?  We're on the BSN.  I'd say that qualifies as hardcore fans.  And this place is ALWAYS divided.  I think, just, on general principle.  You can have two groups of people who hate a game arguing over WHY for ten pages.  And a group of fans who LOVE the game arguing over WHY for ten pages.  Bioware has the most fractured fanbase in gaming history.  (I imagine it must be a little....frustrating...for the devs.)

But, my general point is that when it comes to the overall consensus on Dragon Age: Inquisition among the hardcore, it's a decidedly mixed.  The gaming press is writing love letters.  And new players are also really digging the game.  I don't know what any of this means, exactly.  Just my observations.

 

I don't care if your the president. If your complaining about a positive review about this game, your not a hardcore fan. What do you think hardcore fanbase means?

Look.

You have the hardcore fans arguing about why the love the game for ten pages.

And you have the people who aren't hardcore fans arguing why it sucks for 10 pages.

 

Do you mean hardcore gamers?

Hardcore gamers argue about everything, and its hardly something anyone should care to listen to. Each has their idea of what a game should be, and all they do is complain about how every game missed that ideal. They just log into official forums to complain about how every game did it wrong, while continueing to play the game in the meantime.

"Oh this game sucks. I know. I played it for 1000 hours"

 

I know a guy a mile away who is playing dragon age right now. He has played several times more then I have, and if asked he will put the game down and tell you how much it sucks. Its not a surprise the guy isn't a terribly fun person to be around.

[BammBamm]

The fact that the D:OS (you know, the real RPG) "won" the third place and DA:I the first is reason enough, for me, not take him seriously this time around.

 

d:os is in my opinion overrated. not that it is a bad game but its far from perfect. dai and dos are like ying and yang, what one game does great the other misses completly and vice versa. balancing in dos is just bad (especially at release), crafting is mostly useless and hell the writing and story is at least a thing for personal taste. while i loved dos for some gamemechanics it never managed to attach me to a single character or the story (in my opinion something very important for an rpg), da:i is still great at it.

dos is surely the more courageous of the two (old school gameplay, pc only, really new ideas in combat mechanics, coop) and surely deserves a underdog bonus. but when i compare just the games, dai and dos are both dissapointing because both could have done so much better but because of complete different things. so its my decision to hate both because of the flaws or love both because of their strenghts. i prefer the last one and enjoy dos for its really cool combat mechanics and dai for let me multiple times sit with open jaw in front of the monitor (story presentation wise).

oh and by the way, larian abandoned the game pretty fast after release too compaired to the early access phase, didnt support its mod tool further as promised and made false promises in kickstarter. really not a better behaviour than bioware after release