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[Mcfly616]

Need dat MoCap doe.

[goishen]

I may've missed it but DA:I didn't seem to receive complaints about nudity sex scenes. Might be a sign for ME: Next

 

 

Except from the BioWare team that had to develop them. 

 

(Go watch a video about them and sex scenes)

[katamuro]

I'd say that creating high polygon character models and new animations should be one of the main points for ME:Next. Switching to a new engine on new hardware but using the old animations and models simply makes those look dated and out of place. DA: I gets a pass because it is available on the old consoles as well, but they should not do it for ME:Next

 

They cant use the old models, they are in a different engine. They are still going to build new ones that are more detailed than the previous ones but the question is how detailed they are going to be. I think the next game wont be on the old consoles like the DAI so they might make them quite high quality. 

[KaiserShep]

I'm fairly confident that Inquisition is the last game they'll make that exists on previous-gen hardware, or at least I sincerely hope that it is. The game is too far away to warrant developing for something well over a decade old.

[Vazgen]

Except from the BioWare team that had to develop them. 

 

(Go watch a video about them and sex scenes)

What do I need to search? Is it on YouTube?

[katamuro]

What do I need to search? Is it on YouTube?

 

Yeah I would like that video too. I gather its an interview or something?

[goishen]

Uhhh, remember that video that I mentioned about DAI right after it came out, and it was the developers talking about DAI to a bunch of students ?   It's in there somewhere.

 

I think it's  in here,

 

Basically, BioWare has said that, "We're making a M rated game.  I think we can show nipple.  So, one of us gets up, closes the door.  And then we work on it."  Little tongue in cheek, but not much.

[katamuro]

Well then we all agree that if the NME is going to be M rated and include romance and sex scenes then we all, players and devs would like to see it done well.

[Display Name Owner]

At what point do quarians cross said line and, say asari (as the other obviously humanlike in apperance species) don't? Just going by from the neck up the differences from humans that we can see are....

asari: Blue skin, lack of ears, lack of hair, scalp tentacles 
quarian: Purple skin, lack of ears, lack of pupils

So quarians are slightly more humanlike on about 10% of the body but have a different bone structure and physiology, while asari are basically a recoloured photoshop from the forehead to the toes (which is intentional, indeed "The Art of Mass Effect" companion book from the original game states the design inspiration as the Orion dancer girls from Star Trek) to the point where they don't even have separate armor designs from humans. If one crosses the line, the other should as well by any logical standard

As for the drell, subjectively I think they are even more egregious than either asari or quarians. The latter two are at least mammals and so I can make convergent evolution hypothesies for their features in relation to humans, but drell are reptillian. The humanlike face juxtaposed to the otherwise reptilian features looks like a copypasta and quite unnatural. The aesthetic design of the species reeks of a compromise between female fanservice and still having reptillian features, but it's just my opinion and our knowledge of the drell is even less than pretty much any other humanoid species except....

the batarians, whose design looks like someone just drew a generically strange "alien" head on a human body during a coffee break, though this is in line with the the whole species being really an afterthought of every unseemly idea that the creators could seemingly come up with for a species of glorified stock villians.

Note that I'm not actually really dissatisfied with any of these, because I don't find coming up with aesthetic designs for aliens to be particularly interesting unless they are coupled with a physiological reasoning for such design features. Since we have no idea as to the complex evolutionary, geological and climate history (no, current day climate or 1 defining biosphere factor is not really relevant) variables that determine how most of the species in the ME universe evolved, I can't really be dissatisfied with any of them on "aesthetic" grounds

Now there are plenty of evolutionary derps that I am dissatisfied with, such as krogan birthrate. That makes literally no sense from an evolutionary r/K selection theory standpoint, but I don't have any similar things to say about quarians or their physiology. Indeed, I think (as if one couldn't tell) they are the most interesting in this regard. Pretty much all humanoid appearance ideas have  been done somewhere in another scifi universe as is, so no I don't think making them look like the Rattataki (as those concept photos) would have been particularly interesting or innovative. Less explored cultural and physiological quirks are much more interesting.

I agree with your last line though, and as iterated earlier I think that no reveal would have been the best, but simultaneously don't understand why it is of so much importance that it blew up the internet and still rustles the fanbase 3 years later. 

 

Late reply, but yeah. I actually do think in retrospect that the Asari might have been better if they were more androgynous, but honestly since they were there from the beginning I can accept it. Who am I kidding, I can enjoy it. I guess one overtly sexy alien race is fine... But too many races that are so close to human and imo it starts to get silly, at least in terms of how ME's lore is set up. Star Wars and Trek always had a load of aliens who were basically humans + more skin creases, but then they also had technical limitations. ME doesn't have to do that, and I hope it tries not to in future.

 

As for what point is too humanoid, well, Quarians are even worse than Asari. Aside from the fingers, they've got milky eyes and stripes on them. Imo there shouldn't be any other aliens looking quite so human from now on.

[Larry-3]

I bet asari enjoy having their head tentacles sucked and nibbled on.

Asari: (slowly sips on drink and looks the other way)

[mrjack]

I bet asari enjoy having their head tentacles sucked and nibbled on.

Asari: (slowly sips on drink and looks the other way)

 

I just threw up in my mouth a little 

[Larry-3]

I just threw up in my mouth a little

Ha ha! It was for humor anyway. The thread was getting a little mundane.

[mrjack]

Ha ha! It was for humor anyway. The thread was getting a little mundane.

 

I know but the thought of giving Liara a scalp beej is... there are no words 

[Larry-3]

I know but the thought of giving Liara a scalp beej is... there are no words

The nibbling part was just because I overheard a girl talking about it. Not in Mass Effect, though. But anyway!

[Mcfly616]

I know but the thought of giving Liara a scalp-job is... there are no words 

I'd do it...

[katamuro]

I'd do it...

 

While I do not doubt you will, I doubt that it is actually going to feel good for the receiver. They do not seem like a sensitive enough area. 

[goishen]

Hmm, are your ears sensitive?

 

Okay, I'll stop.

[TheLittleTpot]

Everyone's complaining about the logic of biologically incompatible aliens bumping uglies...and I'm just sitting here wondering why every species in the galaxy appears to be able to speak and understand English. Seriously, I could have gone on assuming that everyone spoke some equivalent of common or basic, but then the Citadel DLC threw that out the window by showing the first ever meeting between Turians and humans (at a point in time when there is no way that a random human soldier could have learned some intergalactic common language) and they all understood each other perfectly.

 

That's the thing though. For sci-fi, suspension of disbelief is a non-negotiable requirement. If we're going to nit-pick the romances based on what does and doesn't make sense, then the whole narrative falls apart because guess what? Going by conventional science, nothing in the Mass Effect universe makes sense!

 

Why are the vast majority of alien races humanoid bipeds? Why do 90 percent of them communicate verbally? How come all of them except the Volus breathe oxygen? How do humans have so many biotics when it seems to be a trait which evolved slowly over thousands of years of being exposed to a rare space-element? What is a mass effect field? How does it work, if explained using words that aren't flavor-text technobabble? Why is dancing such a universally understood cultural trait? There are just too many how's, why's and wtf's to count here!

 

Most sci-fi writers know to disregard logic and science when it gets in the way of their narrative. When the science checks out, that's just a plus because a majority of the people enjoying your story isn't even going to notice. That's why I'll say this; bring on the Hanar-Human-Elcor love triangle because scientific inaccuracies in sci-fi doesn't bother me!

[Wulfram]

Everyone usin translation software is the official excuse for people speaking English. Of course that still leaves a fair few oddities, including that scene.

[Larry-3]

A hanar-human love? ... I do not know how that would work. But I picture a girl undressing and hugging a hanar tightly.

[DanishViking]

I bet asari enjoy having their head tentacles sucked and nibbled on.

Asari: (slowly sips on drink and looks the other way)

you sir have played way to much mass effect ( takes the game away from you !)

xD

[Larry-3]

you sir have played way to much mass effect ( takes the game away from you !)
xD

Aw, now I will miss those lovely cheesy romances.

[Quarian Master Race]

I would like a Turian or Batarian or Quarian male as a romance option

Yes plz. I want to be swept of my feet by a dashing, sophisticated and suave manquarian