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[saladinbob]

Honestly, I'd be more worried about the story they tell as part of the romance, or lack thereof as it's been so far in Bioware games, rather than some ridiculous alien fantasy. DA:I rests my case for me nicely. I said in another thread, I don't want to see another romance in for its own sake. If romance is to be in I want it to be a proper romance that's written in to the main story rather than being some idiotic pandering to teenage hormones. Quality over quantity is what we need in any future 'romance'.

[mrjack]

If romance is to be in I want it to be a proper romance that's written in to the main story rather than being some idiotic pandering to teenage hormones. Quality over quantity is what we need in any future 'romance'.

 

I agree that a romance in the game should alter how the main story plays out. It should feel more significant than it is but I don't know how feasible it is for devs to do. I wouldn't want the feature removed altogether though if they were unable to integrate it more effectively. It's still an enjoyable part of the game to me.

 

As for what species will be available, have a feeling the next game is really going to focus on the new species they are introducing. From those (2 I think) species I think there will be 1 male and 1 female available. I also think there will be at least 1 male and 1 female human available, probably an asari, maybe a turian. I don't see them doing another drell male or quarian female tbh. I really don't see them doing a krogan or salarian but I could be wrong. If synthetics feature in the story (like EDI), I could see them going this route if they had a more human/cyborg appearance rather than robot. I also don't see them including more than 8 but I could be completely wrong.

 

So my wild speculation looks like:

 

Females

1 human

1 asari

1 new race #1

 

Males

1 human

1 new race #2

1 cyborg

 

That leaves 2 and they'll probably both be human or 1 human female and 1 male turian (possibly quarian).

 

ETA: I really don't know about sexualities but if they're going to include set sexualities (like DAI), the humans will probably be 1 gay each and then a bi asari and a bi cyborg. Everyone else straight. Bioware doesn't like making gayliens (which sucks). This is another reason why the last 2 will probably be human so there's one straight one gay of each gender.

[Mcfly616]

In fact you have to pay more to have cross-species sex. Seems it is in high demand. Sapience leads to a lot of curiosity and perversion it seems. Human females have a high price value at one such brothel owned and operated by Batarians and predominately frequented by Batarians. The material was always there for those fantasies. It's just put out there more in the sequels.

 

 Please list the passage where it specifically describes how these sexual acts work. I don't remember it. Sure, I can drop my balls in a Krogans mouth, but that doesn't make us sexually compatable.

[mrjack]

 Please list the passage where it specifically describes how these sexual acts work. I don't remember it. Sure, I can drop my balls in a Krogans mouth, but that doesn't make us sexually compatable.

 

Someone please do fanart of a Krogan getting T-bagged... No matter how horrifying, I must see it.

[General TSAR]

Completely over alien romance and the Bioware romance system - we've had more than enough of it over the years. 

Indeed, it's the same bloody formula: Talk, talk, flirt, flirt, do their errand, shag, end. 

[Mcfly616]

No graphic sexual descriptions. No codices on alien genitalia exist, other than Krogan quads. But why ask this? Why does their need to be a graphic description? The passage says some clients have "esoteric" interests and pay to have a night with different species. It's a high priced brothel. No one is gonna pay an entry fee, plus a load of money, plus a cross-species sex fee to sit and chat in a private sound-proofed room. They can chat out in the open using the entry fee. These Batarian men pay a huge amount of money to screw these Human women in whatever way that is pleasurable to them. They have fingers, tongues, instruments, but I am guessing they want their particular brand of genitalia pleasured. It's still cross-species sex. Is sex only defined by penis in vagina? Even Humans find a variety of ways to get it on. 

 

Do you need me to post the whole text on the Sanctuary Brothel scene on Camala? Just look it up yourself on page 138-143. You have read it so I presume you own the novel? Basically, high-class brothel+mostly Batarian customers+High-priced Human consorts+Sound-proofed rooms...what do you think is going to go on in there, hair brushing? Groto Ib-ba walks in and is immediately made as an outsider and an undesirable. The Batarians look at him scornfully which pisses him off. When he request a Human female (to secretly beat and rape) the brothel's radar goes up even more. Saren takes care of it before anything can happen  to the petite Human Groto purchased.

I guess you're missing the point. There's people that screw horses. That horse is in no way a compatible mate with humans. It's ridiculous. The odds of an alien species being sexually compatible with humans is astronomical. Saying every species is, dismantles all suspension of disbelief. Turians are no more compatible with humans than a horse is. You can stick some things in some places where they're not really supposed to go. 

 

 

It seems you consider any sort of physical stimulation to be sex. 

[mrjack]

Sorry to butt in on your conversation but...

 

Some people stick their penis into the other's anus. It's not made for that , it doesn't belong there,

 

Says who..? No doctor I know...

 

and can be harmful

 

...as can all sex if done incorrectly.

 

 

Some sort of sex is occurring. 

Or maybe I am not understanding your definition of sexual compatibility? Can same gender romances be called sexually compatible?

 

Agreed. Just because a batarian and human may not "fit" together in the traditional sense, it's unlikely that there wouldn't be some way for them to have a fulfilling sexual relationship with a little imagination. It doesn't interest me (at all) but if two consenting, sentient beings in the Mass Effect Universe want to get it on any way they know how, who am I to stand in their way?

 

Next we'll be saying that sex only counts if it can make babies....

[mrjack]

I think we're basically agreeing with each other so I'll leave it at that.

[Mcfly616]

I just think the other individual has more traditional views of sex. But I may be wrong. I was trying to make a point. I must have worded it wrong. 

 My views are anything but traditional. So, yeah you're wrong in that regard. But I do prefer females only. I respect those who have other tastes. 

 

My point is, just as ridiculous as it is to expect every intelligent alien species to be bipedal, with 2 eyes and 1 mouth...it is also ridiculous to expect that any alien species has genitalia/sex organs compatible with our own. And no, I do not consider oral or any other foreplay to be intercourse. They're different.

[Larry-3]

For all we know, two legs, two eyes, and a single mouth could be common in the universe. Just throwing that possibility out there.

Anyway, I would like a "(kiss her)" option for whenever me and my romance speak. I could just walk to her room, or wherever she stays on the ship; then when we start talking, go to "Investigate" then choose "(kiss her)". Some soft music could play. And we could have that option for whenever we talk -- even if we have nothing to say at the moment.

[Mcfly616]

I didn't write the book. Blame Drew Karpyshyn.

 meh he has his flaws. Still, I don't recall him ever describing any species as being compatible in that way. Just that some get their rocks off at inter-species brothels. 

[Mcfly616]

For all we know, two legs, two eyes, and a single mouth could be common in the universe. Just throwing that possibility out there.

For all we know....

 

 

Our entire existence could be a computer simulation. Just throwing that possibility out there.

[mrjack]

For all we know, two legs, two eyes, and a single mouth could be common in the universe. Just throwing that possibility out there.

Anyway, I would like a "(kiss her)" option for whenever me and my romance speak. I could just walk to her room, or wherever she stays on the ship; then when we start talking, go to "Investigate" then choose "(kiss her)". Some soft music could play. And we could have that option for whenever we talk -- even if we have nothing to say at the moment.

 

They have this option in DAI, a repeatable kissing scene. I don't really use it though because obviously it is just the exact same scene over and over again. It would be better if there were a couple of different ones that played randomly but probably not feasible.

[Mcfly616]

They have this option in DAI, a repeatable kissing scene. I don't really use it though because obviously it is just the exact same scene over and over again. It would be better if there were a couple of different ones that played randomly but probably not feasible.

 It'd be cool if you actually saw your squadmates moving about hubs as you're on shore leave. Or if you could invite someone you're interested in romancing out to some club/bar for a drink. (any squadmate for that matter)

[Larry-3]

They have this option in DAI, a repeatable kissing scene. I don't really use it though because obviously it is just the exact same scene over and over again. It would be better if there were a couple of different ones that played randomly but probably not feasible.

It could change based on where you stand with her. For example, if she knows that you also talk to another girl, she turn her head and would only let you kiss her cheek. Or our character has been a hopeless flirt to only her he could kiss her more passionately.

[Faerlyte]

Are we seriously quibbling over what species are truly compatible or feasible in a universe that none of us had a hand in creating? You do realize the creators can decide whatever they want? It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not  (or if you see it as fanservice)- it's their game and their universe. And in that game and universe humans and asari and turians and quarians and krogans are all getting it on. And a bunch of other aliens too. Why not? What skin is it off anyone's nose that theoretical aliens are getting it on with other theoretical aliens and humans in a game? That's the beauty of creating your own world, you can do whatever you want with it. 

 

Bottom line? Two consenting adults, they like each other - maybe they like each other a lot and things don't work quite as smoothly cross species - they will figure it out, and they will do it whether you think it's weird or not. It's not that complicated. 

 

So bring on the alien romances. I love people, not bodies. 

[Larry-3]

For all we know....


Our entire existence could be a computer simulation. Just throwing that possibility out there.

Have you noticed that the universe looks like brain cells? Maybe we are in the mind of God. But, I certainly hope my existence is more than just a simulation.

[Mcfly616]

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Cool story bro.

 

 

Yeah we realize it's a creation of a videogame developer known as Bioware. You do realize people have opinions about it. People like to share and discuss those opinions. Hence, this place we call the Bioware Social Network. 

 

 

Not to mention, Bioware listens to fan feedback. Feedback is usually composed of fans likes/dislikes. 

[Mcfly616]

Have you noticed that the universe looks like brain cells? Maybe we are in the mind of God. But, I certainly hope my existence is more than just a simulation.

 Yeah the universe is trippy. I'm just saying we could throw "for all we know" in front of any speculation we have of the unknown. 

 

 

For all we know, we could be all alone in the cosmos. But come on, the odds are so astronomical. It's a mathematical impossibility.

[mrjack]

 It'd be cool if you actually saw your squadmates moving about hubs as you're on shore leave. Or if you could invite someone you're interested in romancing out to some club/bar for a drink. (any squadmate for that matter)

 

I would enjoy this but I think a lot of people wouldn't take advantage of all that social interaction and so it may not be worth their time. TBH, if the combat's good enough, I could see myself skipping through those scenes in subsequent playthroughs. It would be good if your squadmates were always in different locations and certain convos only played out in certain places. It's good when you have to go hunting for them. They did a bit of this in ME3 and I'd like to see more reactivity to surroundings.