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I believe if you don't buy him the whiskeyand don't ask about his biotics in hospital, he won't come on to you. The other surefire way is to be an arsehole to him on Mars and don't go visit him in hospital but if he's your mate then that goes against the whole RP point of the game. I think you said earlier (too lazy to check) that you play on 360 so if you want the "brothers" chat but no romance just lock one in then uncheck it in gibbed. Bit of a hassle mind.


Not buying the whiskey sounds like a super easy choice. I'll try that next time. Apparently I can shut down Ash in ME by being rude in a specific conversation. I may try that, or I may just stick with leaving her on Virmire, since I'll always do that anyway.

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Thane romance was the best...ever. Too bad it was treated horribly in ME3. Hoping for another drell romance in next ME.
 
I always find the aliens more intruiging than humans in ME universe as characters overall. Although turians was a little too alien for my taste.


Thane is a cool character. I wasn't surprised he died, but I wish it hadn't been in such a foolish way. I also wish they hadn't done a 180 on Kepral Syndrome. It was initially a degenerative lung disease. Suddenly, it became an issue with his O2 transfer proteins. WTH? It felt like it was either a total comprehension-fail by the writer, or an attempt to remove any hope for a treatment plan. Lame.
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Not buying the whiskey sounds like a super easy choice. I'll try that next time. Apparently I can shut down Ash in ME by being rude in a specific conversation. I may try that, or I may just stick with leaving her on Virmire, since I'll always do that anyway.

 

 

With Ashley you have to reprimand her when she starts bad-mouthing aliens. Tell her she's out-of-line and there'll be no more romance and all conversations will proceed as if you were a FemShep. You'll know if you've done it right when she's on the com with her sister and her sister will mention that Kaidan is cute rather than Shepard.


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An Asari LI isn't necessarily guaranteed.

 

Back before ME2 was released most people were assuming Samara was an LI.

 

I actually found Samara a far more interesting "romance"(If you can call it that) then most of the ME2 ones. She was more interesting then Miranda at least but so is a small block of wood with a smiley face on it.

 

Personally I've found that the alien romances where much better then the human ones. Ash and Kaidan have to share a single interesting trait between them and both can be described with a single word each, B***h and boring. Liara had some personality at least and grows as a person. Jacob was a good guy but couldn't be more dull if he replaced by a brick wall we have to talk to every now and then, Miranda comes of as being made by the devs throwing darts at the wall covered in female cliches. Kelly wasn't really a romance but rather a lap dance mini game.

 

Anyway, to me most of the human romance arcs are just plain boring, not saying all but most. Really I don't care what race the new companions are but rather care that they have more character to them then a small bit of paper saying "interesting!" 


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If you choose the right dialogue options with Samara during ME2, and don't romance anybody over the course of ME2 or ME3, it's possible to finally become a couple in the Citadel DLC.

 

 

 

I actually liked it quite a bit. It was more original than most of the other romance arcs.



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I actually found Samara a far more interesting "romance"(If you can call it that) then most of the ME2 ones. She was more interesting then Miranda at least but so is a small block of wood with a smiley face on it.

 

Personally I've found that the alien romances where much better then the human ones. Ash and Kaidan have to share a single interesting trait between them and both can be described with a single word each, B***h and boring. Liara had some personality at least and grows as a person. Jacob was a good guy but couldn't be more dull if he replaced by a brick wall we have to talk to every now and then, Miranda comes of as being made by the devs throwing darts at the wall covered in female cliches. Kelly wasn't really a romance but rather a lap dance mini game.

 

Anyway, to me most of the human romance arcs are just plain boring, not saying all but most. Really I don't care what race the new companions are but rather care that they have more character to them then a small bit of paper saying "interesting!" 

 

 

I laughed so hard at this... and I agree. Aliens are by far much more interesting than humans. The Aliens are *very* well done. Interesting, dynamic, fun.


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Eh, those are some pretty impressive paper clips.

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I laughed so hard at this... and I agree. Aliens are by far much more interesting than humans. The Aliens are *very* well done. Interesting, dynamic, fun.

 

Yeah... I mean, what's the point of having all these cool and awesome(and, each in their own way, very sexy) alien companions, if you're just going to go with a plain ol' boring hummie?

 

I can respect some people not liking it. I even adhere to the belief that, sans Liara, most of the alien romances don't really make sense. Garrus is a giant lizard/bird hybrid that chafes. Thane is a lizard that causes hallucinations. As for Tali... you can pretty much kill her by touching her. Lets not even go into sex.

 

Still... when compared to the human LIs, most of them have the advantage of being... alien. And whether I like them or not(I like some and loathe others), they are all well done. Kaidan and Ashley can't really compare to that. And the less said about Traynor and Allers, the better.


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I'd like to see some blonde crewmembers or romances first

 

Lol I really want this too, it's like Bioware have a problem with blond females, didn't even see one in all the trilogy, the only one I can think of was Kahlee Sanders, well she's was only a cameo.



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 That would've been really cool. And would've atleast seemed legitimate and wouldn't completely break my immersion.

 

 

Dextros can't even eat our food, but due to fan service they can take a load of our bodily fluids. Totally makes sense....

 

Me too I don't like the idea in romancing aliens (Garrus, Liara, Tali etc), it's stupid and reminds me too much of all the weird japanese stuff with aliens and tentacles (very hentaish).

 

If some people like it good for you, but if Bioware want to stick with this I hope the ratio will be 90/10 humans romances/aliens romances.



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You should be able to romance....https://www.youtube....h?v=1y8Rqvz-Jcg


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Me too I don't like the idea in romancing aliens (Garrus, Liara, Tali etc), it's stupid and reminds me too much of all the weird japanese stuff with aliens and tentacles (very hentaish).

 

If some people like it good for you, but if Bioware want to stick with this I hope the ratio will be 90/10 humans romances/aliens romances.

 With Liara it was like "whatever", you know.... I get it. Throw in the sexy alien species that can mate with everything. But then the sequels came and they took what was unique solely to the Asari, and gave it to every species "just because" hey, lets bang everything with a heartbeat (who cares if it makes sense?)!



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 With Liara it was like "whatever", you know.... I get it. Throw in the sexy alien species that can mate with everything. But then the sequels came and they took what was unique solely to the Asari, and gave it to every species "just because" hey, lets bang everything with a heartbeat (who cares if it makes sense?)!

 

Yeah you re right. In ME3 you can even bang an IA (EDI), well not Shepard but Joker but whatever it's just another crazy step.



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I actually found Samara a far more interesting "romance"(If you can call it that) then most of the ME2 ones. She was more interesting then Miranda at least but so is a small block of wood with a smiley face on it.
 
Personally I've found that the alien romances where much better then the human ones. Ash and Kaidan have to share a single interesting trait between them and both can be described with a single word each, B***h and boring. Liara had some personality at least and grows as a person. Jacob was a good guy but couldn't be more dull if he replaced by a brick wall we have to talk to every now and then, Miranda comes of as being made by the devs throwing darts at the wall covered in female cliches. Kelly wasn't really a romance but rather a lap dance mini game.
 
Anyway, to me most of the human romance arcs are just plain boring, not saying all but most. Really I don't care what race the new companions are but rather care that they have more character to them then a small bit of paper saying "interesting!"


I thought the human romances were just as interesting, but suffered from being interrupted midstream (ME2 for the VS), or cut short and denied quality content (ME2 Jacob and Miranda). Of the eventual LIs, only Tali and Garrus were with us through all three games. Only they and Liara, another alien, received romance content of any real substance in consecutive games. I think quality and quantity, rather than "being interesting" or alien, were the hurdles.

I hope for better forethought and planning in across the board in the next game. The lack of a clear plan, and a "making it up as we go" strategy, negatively impacted the series in numerous ways. I think romance story lines, while not as important to many of us, were among the story lines that really suffered.

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It got to the stage where I wouldn't have been surprised if I suddenly got a flirt option with Legion in ME3.

 

I love all the alien squad mates in ME, especially Garrus who will never be topped as a 'bro companion'. That said, I was actually a bit grossed out to find he could be physically romanced, considering he is for all intents and purposes a monster who would have no genetic compatibility with a human (even straight up stated in the codex how different their biology is). I think the worst part of it is that no one says anything about it, whereas in reality if it suddenly got revealed that an ultra famous celebrity was hooking up with a avian mandible boasting alien, you would never hear the end of it. This also works the other way round, as Turians would see Humans as looking a bit monstrous too.

 

He is an absolutely bad-ass character though, and I really would have supported (as others have said) a non-physical romance where the lack of physical attraction is discussed which would have made for an interesting and altogether unique and different experience from any other Bioware romance. Same can be said for Thane I suppose.

 

Tali I suppose in the end works as she essentially looks like a space elf who (from the limited images) would be deemed attractive by humans. That said, I think she would have remained much more of an interesting character if they had stuck more strongly with the 'she dies if she leaves her suit angle.

 

Romancing Asari for both sexes should obviously continue however as it is such a big part of their lore and background how they reproduce with other races and how attractive everyone always says the Asari are. The Liara romance also was my favourite of the ME series so I'm a bit biased.

 

Just my opinions, not really against them putting in more Turian/Drell/etc romances, I will just personally avoid them.


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I think the worst part of it is that no one says anything about it, whereas in reality if it suddenly got revealed that an ultra famous celebrity was hooking up with a avian mandible boasting alien, you would never hear the end of it. This also works the other way round, as Turians would see Humans as looking a bit monstrous too.

 

Why would someone say something about it? Aliens are well known and accepted in the ME universe. People don't freak out over inter-species relatonships.


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Why would someone say something about it? Aliens are well known and accepted in the ME universe. People don't freak out over inter-species relatonships.

True. And there are human female/male turian couples in ME2. One couple is sitting all cozy, snug and close with one another outside of Afterlife on Omega. 

 

And then that "good times" turian that went after female Shepard during Samara's loyalty mission. Or that turian at Chora's Den who asks female Shepard if she will be dancing later.



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There are still things I haven't experienced after two dozen playthroughs! I've never heard the turian ask my FemShep if she will be dancing later. That's funny.

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Asking if she'll be dancing later doesn't mean that they're sexually compatible. Back in ME1, only the Asari could mate with other species. Then the sequels came along and you could screw everything 'cause "why not"?

 

 

As I've said previously in the thread, I think some of the alien romances are very well written, but the very possibility of a sexual relationship with them is just plain and simply stupid. I've also said that a non-sexual platonic relationship with an alien would be really interesting and unique. 

 

 

 

I'm just of the opinion that anything past sexing up a human or an asari is way too far of a stretch.


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Asking if she'll be dancing later doesn't mean that they're sexually compatible. Back in ME1, only the Asari could mate with other species. Then the sequels came along and you could screw everything 'cause "why not"?

 

 

As I've said previously in the thread, I think some of the alien romances are very well written, but the very possibility of a sexual relationship with them is just plain and simply stupid. I've also said that a non-sexual platonic relationship with an alien would be really interesting and unique. 

 

 

 

I'm just of the opinion that anything past sexing up a human or an asari is way too far of a stretch.

Well, Mr. Goodtimes turian wanted to see the asari dancer use her mouth on him. I wonder where on him since he is a metal carapace?

 

What does Garrus mean by he had reach?

 

I doubt Bioware will ever clarify just how sexually compatible (organ-to-organ) each species is with one another.



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Why would someone say something about it? Aliens are well known and accepted in the ME universe. People don't freak out over inter-species relatonships.

 

I completely agree that it is accepted in the ME universe as it has been presented, but I disagree that it should be the case.

 

Humanity has only had 30 years since discovering the Turians (who would have been seen as monsters at that time both physically and how they acted in the war), so I just have a hard time believing that Humanity wouldn't be a bit repulsed about a Turian-Human physical relationship, even if the other races don't think anything of it. Obviously during those 30 years, them coming to respect and befriend each other is believable, I just find humanity's acceptance of physical romance a stretch too far for me personally.

 

Maybe i'm just a bit stuck in my ME1 ways with how I feel the Turians and Humans interact.



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I completely agree that it is accepted in the ME universe as it has been presented, but I disagree that it should be the case.

 

Humanity has only had 30 years since discovering the Turians (who would have been seen as monsters at that time both physically and how they acted in the war), so I just have a hard time believing that Humanity wouldn't be a bit repulsed about a Turian-Human physical relationship, even if the other races don't think anything of it. Obviously during those 30 years, them coming to respect and befriend each other is believable, I just find humanity's acceptance of physical romance a stretch too far for me personally.

 

Maybe i'm just a bit stuck in my ME1 ways with how I feel the Turians and Humans interact.

I understand. I think a human man (father, brother, son, or potential mate) would be infuriated if a female member of their family was in love with a turian fresh out of the FCW. She may not ever have a human lover again if it was known she were intimate with a turian. But (and I will speak only for me) I would have no issue falling in love with someone I respected, felt safe with, and who could protect and provide me comfort, all of which I do not believe is exclusive to human/human pairings (in the Mass Effect universe that is!).  

 

I don't blame all turians for the FCW.


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Well, Mr. Goodtimes turian wanted to see the asari dancer use her mouth on him. I wonder where on him since he is a metal carapace?

 

What does Garrus mean by he had reach?

 

And that was all in the sequel.

 

 

Garrus was speaking of Turian on Turian action so, who knows.....doesn't relate to human relations either way.



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And that was all in the sequel.

 

 

Garrus was speaking of Turian on Turian action so, who knows.....doesn't relate to human relations either way.

 

 

Who knows what 

 

 

 

 

Try reading the post before quoting.....

I understand. I read it. I disagree with your point of view.  I am glad the sequels made turians sexually compatible with humans. I trust Bioware's decision to make turians sexually compatible with us human females. I applaud them for doing so. As a straight woman I don't want to be stuck in a romance with an asari with large breasts bouncing in my face. I like platonic romances as well and am all for a human/salarian pairing. But am glad the turian romances were included, the freaky interspecies sex as well. Even if Garrus keeps his armour on while doing it.

 

 

I should also add that human and drell pairings are a bit of a stretch for me. First, the drell skin can do horrible things to human skin just on contact. Secondly, drell are rare and so a drell with any other species will continue to harm their race's existence, and finally, their psychology is so strange (or complex) that I find it difficult to believe humans and them could truly get along (but I may be wrong on that account as their haven't been many drell examples in game?).

 

Other than turian and drell, there have been no other male alien love interests. So I am very happy about turian and human pairings at least.



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Regarding the whole dextro/levo argument, and remembering a conversation between a Quarian and Turian on Illium in ME2: Wouldn't a condom be quite effective? That being said, not all Levo based items would be fatal. Chocolate would just taste very bitter to Quarians/Turians, but wouldn't necessarily kill them. Same could be said for saliva and... ahem; not necessarily harmful/fatal. 

Well, now that I've suitably creeped myself out with that, onto the main question. 

Overall, yes I'd like to see them continued. As many people have said, it doesn't have to be as superficial as many of the naysayers are making out. My request is that the scenes occur more naturally - as if two people have just become closer with a physical attraction rather than "Well, we've flirted a bit before and we may be about to die, so lets shoot DNA at each other". I always looked forward to the conversations with all my crewmates after missions and such, if we could have more of those so we get to know them more, you could count me happy.


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