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[katamuro]

 

 

And that is why she was given a model for her face. Unfortunately, in this game the human face and hair options (lack of body sliders) are lacking in many attractive qualities i'm sure the male/female ME fans wishes they could have. But I am having a hard time believing "looked better than humans" means alien.

 

Honestly, when I hear this it usually means a human with no flaws, and skin outside the human color spectrum, but identical facial proportions/and or hair to a human, T&A like a human, etc. That's not alien, it's sci-fi smut akin to star trek/guardians of the galaxy spacebabes tailor made to arouse a human because it is a human in a costume or skin paint. 

 

I guess given how animalistic the alien dudes have looked up until now the gay/bi gents and bi/straight ladies should get a dude alien that looks "better than humans" as well - bigger muscles, bigger balls and d*cks (see that image in the "get rid of cleavage thread" and think of a d*ck bigger than that...i know ), excessive c*m, flawless faces and hair, scantily clad, and way smarter/stronger than any male human even the protagonist because they'd be alien    and that's what an attractive alien more attractive than a human means. Their female counterparts, however, should be ugly, fat, and awkward because alien sexual dimorphism  ... ya know it's science.

 

BW already fanserviced the male fans with the asari and consequently (more profoundly i'd argue) the lesbian fanbase as well. Perhaps, this more-attractive-than-humans alien should be strictly male for once.

 

 

Ok maybe I didn't word it correctly. But I dont want humans+, but something that has humanoid features, like the two glowing eyes, mouth, lips and nose that we see in the visor but with features that would make them attractive to other species like protheans and turians, after all Javik does say something about how quarians were beautiful in their cycle. I am just trying to unify the lore and the romance thing with how they are supposed to look both to us and other species. 

The one obvious thing is that they would not have hair or at least long hair in those suits, they could have something that has a similar function. 

 

Also while I am sure I am going to draw some serious ire for this, but I am ok with quarians being basically slightly weird humans. Its just the option we have now is not alien enough. Too human. And there are plenty of examples out there in various science fiction and fantasy artwork of beatiful beings that are quite not human but still possess enough similarities for us to find that attractive without too much trouble. That is what I think I was aiming for. 

[katamuro]

I gotcha. Truth is if BW wants to go the WoW/Star Trek/GoTG route with aliens and relegate hanar/elcor/rachni/volus/yagh to bad guys and big jokes then they will do it regardless of what anyone says. I just will get bored with that personally since I already play WoW/STO/SWtor. Now that you bring it up though, the turians and Javik thing, it...makes...no...sense  .

 

 

I guess with turians it would since they really like asari more than anything else (I really hated that stalker/harasser f*k Septimus Oraka) and probably secretly like humans too (Gavorn???). And asari, quarians, and humans all have similar T&A, which turians don't have (I think a turian might like me since I am hourlassed/violin shaped but flat as a board... I don't have boobs... I have mosquito bites...fu*k you god). I just think an unmasked quarian would elicit the same visual cues as an asari and human would with a turian (facial features are important...looking into the eyes). They don't have protruding mandibles, metallic plates, flat noses, a lack of lips, or lack of hair; which is why the asari head fringe is a thing for the turians. Some fans won't go for asari because of the head tentacles, so I think turians would get wary around hair since it is unnatural to them. I may be shallow but if a woman has a great body, but is dead from the neck up, i'm not interested in approaching her for sex. This is why, although I like Nyreen, I wouldn't let her teeth, mandibles, or nails near my vagina. 

 

 

But shouldn't Javik find batarians (4 eyes) more attractive...i dunno.

 

Yeah that comment was weird, but I think the reason why turians might find quarians attractive is that at least they share the same dextro base. Which probably means they dont have to be as careful as with asari or humans. And Javik is a prothean male, who knows what their females look like. Also its possible that since the Prothean Empire basically forced other species to join them for quite a long time their understanding of "attractive" is much broader. 

Also while asari are supposed to be sexy and attractive especially to me, what many refer as the target audience of videogames(male,white and early 20's) I dont. Liara never interested me in that way and while Samara's face is beatiful I also dont see her that way either. Pretty much the only ones I found attractive in the whole game were Tali and Miranda, and Traynor. 

Anyway possibility is that in ME2 the developers thought making quarians not as soft(the Grunts comment but it might also be reffering to their ever present suits, but then again in combat pretty much everyone wears suits and Okeer was quite old so he must have known them before) but they changed that in favour of a half-assed photoshop. I really have no idea what they were thinking of making that picture the way they did. In one of the ME art books it was shown that Tali concepts did look quite alien for a while. 

 

Something like this http://fc02.devianta...8ed-d4e2yy1.jpgcould have worked but without the mandibles and the weird head thingies. 

Overall however I think the differences in legs and hands are enough of a thing especially with the whole immune system thing and the dextro stuff so that Tali's face could easily be something like this http://demisir.devia.../Tali-377004375or this http://fruitloop360.deviantart.com/art/Tali-160075383 to balance it out. 

[SwobyJ]

I'd rather they not be attractive (leave that to the humans and asari...which is more than enough) and exceptionally well-written, so well-written that we want to have that alien sex.

 

Dorian was written and performed well enough that I've seen many hetero male players romance him because they loved him so much.

 

I was very impressed.

 

So yes, I think this is possible.

 

If only for the lulz.

[dogstar12]

EDI type romance? Female Turian would like to see a female Batarian for the hell of it

[Tonymac]

EDI type romance? Female Turian would like to see a female Batarian for the hell of it.

[katamuro]

It seems your quite is exactly right for the type of situation in that picture. Regrets indeed.

[Display Name Owner]

Now I'm just hearing a standard male Batarian voice saying a variety of LI dialogue.

 

"I want to feel your skin against mine. But the priiize. Be alive with me tonight. Filthy human - let's get filthy, human"

[CronoDragoon]

Yeah sure I bet a pic of Tali with a hairy ass, hips, legs, feet, and arms would sell well. Gotta pollinate them plants and those are the best areas with hair to do it...really thick and bristly hair growing inside and outside her booty, legs, arms, and feet. If that's what the hair is for then those are the areas it would most certainly be concentrated in and in more quantity than a human. And it would be short, coarse, and stubby like on insects (a better adaptation for accumulation and transportation of pollen/spores) not long or silky or flowing like on primates (pollen/spores are more likely to get stuck and hidden or entangled). That means those quarian ladies have lots of coarse hair in places most men and women would find.   Maybe a thick, bristly mustache to pollinate when their human lips touch the fruits their ancestors ate. You can't do it ramming your head horizontally through the bushes. Maximum success on the lower reaches.

 

You sure are taking this seriously, considering Rannoch is an alien planet and therefore has no need to function as Earth does in terms of plant pollination. That short bristly hair is the best at collecting pollen on Earth doesn't mean a whole lot. That's how it evolved, sure, but there's no tautology in the specifics.

[Quarian Master Race]

You sure are taking this seriously, considering Rannoch is an alien planet and therefore has no need to function as Earth does in terms of plant pollination. That short bristly hair is the best at collecting pollen on Earth doesn't mean a whole lot. That's how it evolved, sure, but there's no tautology in the specifics.

The best part is that such a point is intended to disparage Convergent Evolution theories (which would explain the humanoid aliens just fine), yet at the same time cannot escape the narrow perspective of evolutionary history based on Earth's bioshphere.

[katamuro]

Well to pollinate you don't even need long hair, our bodies are covered in very fine, quite short hair so that is a possibility. And on Rannoch its not just the pollination but also that their version of viruses and microbes were mostly beneficial to them. Unlike Earth it seems Rannoch was not constantly trying to kill them.

 

As a sidenote we know from ME1 and from Javik directly that protheans studied and were preparing to uplift the other species into their empire, before the reaper war and after, the whole purpose of Javik was to lead the new one. So its quite possible that protheans had a hand in modifying a few species like asari for example. 

And the previous cycle species could have done the same. Even Reapers themselves, considering they were interested in getting the species to advance along the lines that they have established it could be possible that they had modified a few species to evolve along the lines necessary to take over Citadel. 

 

Also apart from the bodyshape the quarians of 2186 could be different than the quarians back before the Morning War. They could have been dark skinned, light-headed or anything like that with 300 years of life in artificial environments changing their skin pigmentation, the way their hair grows. Also it doesn't state if quarians were the same as humans and lived during the day. For all we know they could be nocturnal or their ancestors were on the planet so it would be both cooler and darker. They could have been hairy, or scaly but a few centuries of atrophy of those parts would result in adaptation to their new way of life, heck they could have done it themselves if they found that some limited genetic engineering would make it easier for them to live in suits. 

[katamuro]

Night elves! 

 

That was not intentional, just an example. You get my point hopefully.

 

EDIT: Well the average temperature on Earth is low because we get both extremes, we get very low temperatures and quite high temperatures. Rannoch might not have temperatures below freezing apart from the top of the poles. 

[katamuro]

Yeah we can speculate all we like but we can only say "this is something that is quite probable" through scientific enquiry. Without some facts to back it up its only speculation and we only have one real example of life, that is Earth.

[katamuro]

That's the point! 

 

Wait, I think I have just realized that we are trying to convince each other of the same thing. 

[Han Shot First]

The Quarians looking like they do is silly.

 

The next game needs to retcon that Tali reveal and give them at least a couple more alien features, so that they don't look exactly like humans.

[katamuro]

Its sillier than asari with their reproduction, batarians who are basically like humans but have ugly heads and are stuck somewhere around 18th century in their social advancement, the whole genophage thing(its far easier to lower actual fertility rates rather than have thousands of stillborns), volus who are basically a stereotypical accountant/merchant species. 

Do I need to go on? 

Everything is quite silly if you look at one particular thing. Taken on its own its silly, but taken in the whole context? and yeah they might have made them slightly more alien but even the bits we have seen in ME1 and ME2 are quite clear that they have eyes, nose and pretty much the same mouth structure as humans. And the way they arrange the fabric on their suits around the mask is clearly a replacement for hair they cant show anymore. 

[Han Shot First]

Asari reproduction is one of the least goofy elements of the series, as parthenogenesis actually exists in nature. There are species on our own planet that reproduce that way, including in certain circumstances some species of shark. It has also been observed in turkeys. The most far-fetched thing about the Asari is that they are a race of wizards (because really biotics are just mages with a Sci Fi coating), but the universe established early on that Eezo is a thing. 

 

In any case whether or not some other aspects of the lore are far fetched in no way justifies the inclusion of others. That the Quarians not only bear a slight resemblance to humans, but almost look exactly like us, is a step too far into the zone where suspension of disbelief starts to strain beyond the breaking point. Having humanoid aliens is one thing, and is at least possible due to convergent evolution...but when those aliens barely have any differences, despite having no relation to humanity and evolving on a completely alien world, it's hard to hand wave away.

 

It is also quite frankly, a little boring. Why create an alien species if they are just going to be humans in exo suits?

 

[katamuro]

Well I admit that the quarian design was extremely lazy on the part of the Bioware but they do have a few differences to humans, the arms, legs, dextro. But then again you can probably guess that whoever was responsible for that bit was EXTREMELY lazy, the stock photo that was so poorly photoshoped that some people managed to get better results in less than 30 minutes. That one of the core characters of the game series did not get an in-game cinematic reveal when we have a complete model of someone utterly not required(you know that reporter woman). 

I just go and find some really good alternative version on deviantart and headcanon it. While I am not supposed to really but I am doing the same for the endings anyway. 

[Vazgen]

They should not have revealed her face at all. Anything would've been met with rage for not meeting expectations and then that rage would've been amplified with the endings... 

I don't romance her anyway and this is how I think she looks like

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[Wulfram]

They should have casually revealed how Quarians looked in ME2 (maybe a shattered visor on the opening planet?) rather than building it up into a nonsensical mystery.

 

I mean, it's not like Shepard couldn't have gone on Space Google and found out in a few seconds.

[katamuro]

They should have casually revealed how Quarians looked in ME2 (maybe a shattered visor on the opening planet?) rather than building it up into a nonsensical mystery.

 

I mean, it's not like Shepard couldn't have gone on Space Google and found out in a few seconds.

 

Yeah that. Or one of two good moments to do it, either in the romance scene in ME2 if you romanced Tali. Or the scene in ME3 when she removes her mask on Rannoch. 

And there were plenty of ways to make her look human enough and yet still alien without resorting to the weird head fringes like turians or asari, or going nearly human like what we got. It was basically fear of straying too far coupled with what seems like a 5 minute decision to just make her human variant.