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[VilniusNastavnik]

I was under the impression that by getting a kill with a weapon w. a X rune of Y attached, when ever you kill an enemy with that weapon, you get a kill towards the elemental challenges as well... Spirit rune on a staff gives spirit kills.. Ice runes on an axe gives ice kills.. etc..

I am just trying to unlock the banners, because why not, so I threw on my Thunderstrike Mace w. Master Frost Rune onto my level 20 lego and decided to do a routine run for some easy kills. My elemental cold damage was at 378 prior to starting the match.. 115 mace kills and 36 ability kills later, my elemental cold damage kills were still at 378. 

Has it always been this way? Or is this a recent change? Or a bug perhaps with the DLC? 

Figured, id do 7 Lego routine run throughs to get the cold banner and 3 more keeper run throughs with my void staff w. Superb spirit rune for easy spirit kills.. appears that will not be the case.. looks like I need to use my necromancer then.. was hoping not to have to use her. Especially since the ice abilities are about control and not destruction.

I mostly ask because I could have sworn the majority of cold kills came from my lego / templar using a dwarven axe w. a master frost rune attached.

[ShintomeEX]

Try running some threatening or perilous with.him to see if that works. I don't think there are diminishing returns of level but I've had the same problem. After i prestiged my Templar and ran routines again my lighting kills started increasing again. Also, track it so you can see in game if it's increasing rather than running a whole match.

[Shadohz]

Can't answer that. I'll just say use the Elementalist abilities for cold/fire kills or any mage that has a staff with cold/fire/electricity damage). Barrage also speeds things up with the appropriate staff elemental damage.

Alchemist (toxic cloud/poison blades/and a poison weapon) for exterminator challenge.

 

It's better to do your challenges on Solo if your gear is good enough. Use Routine to get up around Lvl 10 so you aren't dying too easily. Also be aware of the bug the messes up your Challenge stats when the game glitches. So avoid the RTC faction if you can.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Yeah, I can solo routine easily, threatening, depends on the class.. some builds are just too squishy.. my lego not so much refuses to drop. 

I wish I had a frost staff stronger than 33 damage. Fire, lightning, both 69-70 damage, w. Superb Spirit runes. Ice.. not so much.

[Shadohz]

I wish I had a frost staff stronger than 33 damage. Fire, lightning, both 69-70 damage, w. Superb Spirit runes. Ice.. not so much.

You can still compensate for that: Mage with Winter's Grasp and Barrage. Frost staff with throwaway Spirit Rune. When you salvage the Frost Staff you'll still get credit for the rune salvage as well. You don't necessarily need a Superb rune (I get them all the time but keep them down to 3 each).

[Galaxy_Siege]

i am not sure if this is correct but is how i assumed it was done. the extra damage from the rune needs to actually be a part of the kill. so if you deal 500 damage with your weapon and the mob has 400 hp then the +x from the rune never kicks in and thus no kill. the only time i see my spirit kills on the staff is when it seems to be an exact kill. i seldom see them with my katari/reaver cause the hits are so high.

[The Allslayer]

i am not sure if this is correct but is how i assumed it was done. the extra damage from the rune needs to actually be a part of the kill. so if you deal 500 damage with your weapon and the mob has 400 hp then the +x from the rune never kicks in and thus no kill. the only time i see my spirit kills on the staff is when it seems to be an exact kill. i seldom see them with my katari/reaver cause the hits are so high.

 

Thats exactly how it works. I was tracking fire kills and switched too a melee class with a fire rune and got a couple kills in the next game.

[Jane_Shepard]

HI

 

The best way to do the elemental challenge are to use mage (exept for the poison one)

 

When you kill an enemy with stave, it count toward the challenge, i have done all of the elemental challenge, i can give you tips for make it easier and faster

 

 

Poison Kills :

 

First, the kill have to be done by the poison "dot" nothing else

So if you poison an ennemy and you do the killing blow with dagger or bow or by someone in your group you won't have the kill

I recommand to do that challenge Solo

 

The best class for that is the alchemist

Use the poisoned weapons and poison cloud, when you poison ennemy, kite them until they die and keep do that until you have the 2500 kills

It's really pain in the ass to have this one

 

 

Spirit Kills :

 

This one is the easiest, i think it's faster to do that in Solo

 

Best class for that is the Arcane Warrior

I have used Stonefist, Pull of the Abyss and Spirit Blade for do that

 

You just have to kill every ennemy with spirit blade, if there is a huge group of ennemy, just use PoTa and throw upgraded stonefist for kill them all

 

 

Cold Kills :

 

Best class for that is the Necromancer

I recommand to use a cold stave (if you have one) 

That can be done with other but for sure it's faster in solo

 

I have used Winter grasp, blizzard, frost step

For the passive (if you try this solo), ice armor, death siphon and virulence are really usefull

Just kill ennemy with your stave or with the ability

 

 

Electricity kills :

 

Like the spirit one, a bit easy to do

 

Best class for that is the Arcane Warrior (you can use keeper too if you prefer)

I recommand to use an electricity stave (if you have one)

Can be done with other or Solo

 

I have used upgraded chain lightning and Pull of the Abyss

 

 

Fire kills :

 

Best class for that is the elementalist

I recommand to use an fire stave (if you have one)

Can be done with other or Solo

 

I have used Immolate, Wall of fire and Firestorm

But be carefull with Firestorm, i have often see problem for drop the "key" at the end of a zone with that ability

 

 

 

That's it, it's all the tip i can give you for those challenge

I hope that will help you to clear all the elemental challenge

[VilniusNastavnik]

HI

 

The best way to do the elemental challenge are to use mage (exept for the poison one)

 

When you kill an enemy with stave, it count toward the challenge, i have done all of the elemental challenge, i can give you tips for make it easier and faster

 

 

Poison Kills :

 

First, the kill have to be done by the poison "dot" nothing else

So if you poison an ennemy and you do the killing blow with dagger or bow or by someone in your group you won't have the kill

I recommand to do that challenge Solo

 

The best class for that is the alchemist

Use the poisoned weapons and poison cloud, when you poison ennemy, kite them until they die and keep do that until you have the 2500 kills

It's really pain in the ass to have this one

 

 

Spirit Kills :

 

This one is the easiest, i think it's faster to do that in Solo

 

Best class for that is the Arcane Warrior

I have used Stonefist, Pull of the Abyss and Spirit Blade for do that

 

You just have to kill every ennemy with spirit blade, if there is a huge group of ennemy, just use PoTa and throw upgraded stonefist for kill them all

 

 

Cold Kills :

 

Best class for that is the Necromancer

I recommand to use a cold stave (if you have one) 

That can be done with other but for sure it's faster in solo

 

I have used Winter grasp, blizzard, frost step

For the passive (if you try this solo), ice armor, death siphon and virulence are really usefull

Just kill ennemy with your stave or with the ability

 

 

Electricity kills :

 

Like the spirit one, a bit easy to do

 

Best class for that is the Arcane Warrior (you can use keeper too if you prefer)

I recommand to use an electricity stave (if you have one)

Can be done with other or Solo

 

I have used upgraded chain lightning and Pull of the Abyss

 

 

Fire kills :

 

Best class for that is the elementalist

I recommand to use an fire stave (if you have one)

Can be done with other or Solo

 

I have used Immolate, Wall of fire and Firestorm

But be carefull with Firestorm, i have often see problem for drop the "key" at the end of a zone with that ability

 

 

 

That's it, it's all the tip i can give you for those challenge

I hope that will help you to clear all the elemental challenge

Cheers, Yeah, managed to pick up a half decent ice staff from a chest. Knew all the above, just was wondering why I was no longer getting elemental kills from runes. Did not know AW was best for spirit, I was just gonna re roll my necro into a spirit mage.. guess I could bring my AW out of retirement. Was one of those classes I do not really liked playing with so got it to 20 and shelved it. Only need bout 500 more until I get the fire portrait.. problem is ele gives a higher chance of procing the key bug. :/ guess ill do 5 runs with my keeper and fire staff for the basic staff kills.

EDIT:
I mean, The only challenges I didn't have 1000+ kills on were Spirit (700+), Poison (25) and ice (At time of OP, 378, now, 1000+.. ice armor helped a lot). My builds are basically identical to yours, all my ele kills were gotten whilst leveling characters to 20.. I only have bout a dozen maps done with all characters due to that being the total threatening matches to cap them.. Get to 20, move to the next one.. so the runes were procing kills.. just not anymore. Thankfully I have two tongue of the serpents.. 5% chance to proc poison so that should help a bit. Just gonna be a lot of stealthing around. There really should be a nature rune like in origins.

[Jane_Shepard]

Hi

 

I will have to disagree too Mortiel

 

Necromancer only have 1 skill that do spirit damage, Arcane Warrior have 4 (i can say 5 but there is only 4 slot ^^)

When you're Walking Bomb is on cooldown you have to wait, with AW, you can continue to do spirit kills

 

I think you use the combo Blizzard + WB.

Pota + stone fist upgraded do the same job, after the use of Pota, only one stonefist is enough for kill everything that is caught by the Pota

And when those skill are on cooldown, you still can use spirit blade or use Veilstrike (pbaoe)/ Fade cloak (1000% spirit damage with the upgrade)

 

So  for me, IMO, Arcane Warrior is the best class for doing spirit kills

 

 

[BraveLToaster]

Yeah, Necro really racks up Spirit kills.

 

I can get a decent amount of Poison kills using Toxic Cloud with Explosive Toxin (on either Hunter or Alchemist) in multiplayer matches, doesn't really need to be solo.  Drop it on chokepoints or in teammate CC and let it do its thing, it's more effective than people realize.  The only problem is that it's far away from other core damage abilities, so most people won't get it until near max level, not good for promoting.

[Trickshaw]

The elemental damage in question has to provide the killing blow. That's why the poison challenge is such a pain in the ass.

[VilniusNastavnik]

RE: The cold kills, I would claim ele would be just as good as Necro.. Ele gets barrier on top of ice armor and death syphon.. gives it a bit more durability, throw down an ice mine and stand on it, same as blizzard without the upkeep.. Just take every ice ability in the control tree. 

Just use a cryo build rather than a pyro build.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Um... Ice Mine does no damage...

 

Winter's Grasp is good enough with the upgrade, but Blizzard is the best for taking down large groups.

Who said it was for damage.. I said stick it at your feet and stand on it.. it is a sustained ice spell.. use it to keep ice armor on without the blizzard upkeep cost.