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[tomar65]

Hey guys

 

 

I have just finished my first playthrough and it's time for me to make an opinion on the game. Now, I just wanted to share with you my two main regrets about the "other games" references.

 

Know first that although I am a huge fan of Dragon Age, I am also realistic and even if I praise the Keep system (my Hawke is back ! Cool !) I knew it would not be possible to make reference to ALL of our choices recorded. Still, these two are special and I'm concerned that they doesn't appear in DAI :

 

- Why we don't see Bodahn and Sondal at the Winter Palace ? At the end of DAI, B mention that Celene have invite them at the court, so we can assume they are here ; even if it's understandable that she won't exhibate them at the ball, the circumstances of the quest were good for at least a little cameo (in the servant quarters maybe ?) that would made these two unique characters to appear in the 3 DA games. It look like I miss my little "enchantment"...

 

- Merril's mirror. If you befriended her in DA2, then she will have a well restored eluvian in her home in Kirkwall and we know now that the only thing she missed was the key to activate it. However in DAI eluvians are an important plot point : Corypheus want to use them to acced the fade. Wouldn't it make sense to have at least Varric to mention after the Temple of Mythal : "Hey, Inquisitor, I know this elf in Kirkwall, she have a eluvian, maybe we could send troops to secure it" which would bring a little operation ?

 

There, just wanted to mention it. Any opinions about it ?

[Lord Giantsbane]

It makes little sense to leave out a character as popular as Sandal out of the game. He definitely is important to the plot too. What I fear is, he will make his appearance through some paid DLC, which just sucks

[Gonzo]

Ah, i think the mirror thing is tricky to bring back because, for example my Merril smashed it in rage and doesnt want anything to do with it anymore... If you ment just a passing mention, sure but there are other things i rather see first...
Oh, i think Bodahn and Sandal are possibly at Val Royeaux somewhere, probably turn up on DLC. There is the whole prophecy thing and how it could very well connect to Solas...

[Asakti]

Sandal is a weird gap given his prophecy (which you'd think was about DA:I).  But maybe he is set for a DLC cameo (especially if his prophecy relates to Solas).

 

Merrill's mirror (or lack of) is an odd gap as well since the eluvian's were mentioned (and just makes me sad for Merrill - I don't want her to learn anything from DA )

[tomar65]

I know that the whole mirror thing is optional, but still, operations are meant to take our choices in consideration even if they are optional (there is a whole serie of ope where Zevran will help the inquisition which obviously is not available if you killed him in Origin instead of recruiting him). It's just that given how eluvians are importants in DAI story, it sems like a missing plot point to not even mentioning this one...

[Fearsome1]

I have a hard time believing that Bodahn Feddic and Sandal will appear in Inquisition-related dlc; because what would be the point? Dragon Age 2 "specifically" stated that they had been invited to serve in Celene's court, and for whatever the hell reason - - - they are a no show. The decision behind this major storytelling gaffe would be fascinating to know, given the previous importance of this dwarven pair, butt at this point it comes down to being little more than a WTF moment!

[WardenMarcus]

One of ladyAshe's videos while exploring the crossroads had shown an eluvian similar of Merill's.

[RedWulfi]

The lack of merrils eluvian being mentioned was dissapointing. Feels like no matter what you do with it, has no impact.

[Tentacles]

If Merril kept her mirror you can briefly see it in the backround when Morrigan takes you to the crossroads.

 

Its incredibly brief, but its there.

[Machina Obscura]

I could go several more lifetimes without thinking about Merrill again, but I miss Bodahn and his boy!

[tomar65]

You saw Merril's mirror in the crossroads ? Wow ! How have you managed to recognize it ? If I remember well this scene, there were some mirrors in the background, but nothing to distinguishe one from the other...

[Gonzo]

Merril's mirror is surrounded by that weird thorn root thingy, just like in da2. And broken.

[tomar65]

Yeah, you're right ! I wonder if it still appear in a playthrough where she would have shaterred the mirror, though...

[LobselVith8]

- Merril's mirror. If you befriended her in DA2, then she will have a well restored eluvian in her home in Kirkwall and we know now that the only thing she missed was the key to activate it. However in DAI eluvians are an important plot point : Corypheus want to use them to acced the fade. Wouldn't it make sense to have at least Varric to mention after the Temple of Mythal : "Hey, Inquisitor, I know this elf in Kirkwall, she have a eluvian, maybe we could send troops to secure it" which would bring a little operation ?

 

There, just wanted to mention it. Any opinions about it ?

 

I would have liked to have seen Merrill's expertise with the Eluvians come into play; she's studied the lore on them, and even extrapolated information from the shard she cleansed of the taint. The story in Kirkwall really went nowhere, and as we learned in "The Masked Empire", Merrill was right when she concluded from her research that the Eluvians could be beneficial to the People.

 

Making Merrill an ally would have been a cool move, perhaps even inviting the elves she's watching over to Skyhold so they have a safe place to live. Given how the Inquisitor can support either Sebastian or Aveline, there also could have been an Inquisition presence already in the city-state who could safeguard the Eluvian that was painstakingly built by Merrill.

 

It also would have been nice to interact with a pro-Dalish character as Inquisitor Lavellan, considering there are no pro-Dalish characters among your companions or advisers.

[corporal doody]

miss sandal.

 

 

and i was thinking about the Eluvian in regards to Hawke.   If you chose to leave Hawke behind...and opted for Merrill to keep researching it...can Hawke still be ALIVE and escaped/was rescued???

[Patchwork]

You saw Merril's mirror in the crossroads ? Wow ! How have you managed to recognize it ? If I remember well this scene, there were some mirrors in the background, but nothing to distinguishe one from the other...

 

I'd seen ladyAshe's video so I was looking for it Merrill's mirror is smaller and doesn't look like the other eluvians.  

[tomar65]

Once again, I know that the difficulty of it is that there is still a potentiality way where Merril would have shattered the mirror, making it useless, and you have to take that in account, so it would be hard to make it a major Plot point.

 

Still, the fact that the eluvians became major in DAI story would have justified at least a mention or an operation, and I'm thinking about Bioware, who said they would release some patch with quest or stuff they didn't have time to implement, hoping that they keep this point in mind.

 

And as for Bodahn and Sondal, yeah, it would not be Major either, but the winter palace quest would have been so relevant for at least a little cameo (which should not be complicated to make) that I alos see it as a missing opportunity.

[Robert Trevelyan]

- Why we don't see Bodahn and Sondal at the Winter Palace ? At the end of DAI, B mention that Celene have invite them at the court, so we can assue they are here ; even if it's understandable that she won't exhibate them at the ball, the circumstances of the quest were good for at least a little cameo (in the servant quarters maybe ?) that would made these two unique characters to appear in the 3 DA games. It look like I miss my little "enchantment"...

 

 

Though Bodahn is absent entirely, Sandal actually does appear in Inquisition. Purely a cameo appearance, but he is present in a cell during the Fade dream sequence at Therinfal Redoubt.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=I4MHg0o1p2M

 

As to what he is doing there? I'm guessing it's just an Easter Egg. But still.

 

I too was disappointed to arrive at Winter Palace to find no sign of either. But I'm sure they'll be back.

[Voodoo Dancer]

just wondering is Merrill her keeper and clan from DA2 the same one that's in the dalish elf origin , as for bodahn and sandal being at the winter palace that would have been good , specially if bodahn had an unlimited supply of those blasted halla statues in his pack.

[Robert Trevelyan]

just wondering is Merrill her keeper and clan from DA2 the same one that's in the dalish elf origin

 

 

Yes. Same Clan, and Keeper. Only between DAO and DA2 her clan suddenly became Irish voiced, and Merrill Welsh. But, yes. Same Clan, even down to Master Varathorn.

[Voodoo Dancer]

yeah the accents , I think that's what made me unsure      but if that's the case wouldn't a dalish warden have already known flemeth since in DA2 the clan seemed to have a history with her .

[Robert Trevelyan]

yeah the accents , I think that's what made me unsure      but if that's the case wouldn't a dalish warden have already known flemeth since in DA2 the clan seemed to have a history with her .

 

Not as 'Flemeth'.

 

If she'd introduced herself as "Asha'bellanar" on the other hand...

[Neoleviathan]

Merrill's mirror is supposed to be the same from the one in dalish Origins, so it seems really weird it's other end would be in the crossroads & not the blighted city it was apparently connected to in Origins. Perhaps Merrill's meddling reset it & the Illuvian nexus is a kind of safeguard, or they can connect more than one spot.

[wolfsite]

The issue with Merril's Mirror is that since the player can affect if it is broken or not it can't really be a major plot choice.  If the mirror ended up giving a large benefit in future games then everybody would just pick that the mirror was never broken which would negate the choice, thus no point in the choice being there and then people would complain that people who picked to destroy it get nothing.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

 There are a lot of choices in the Keep that you can bring over from past games that for some reason aren't even brought up in DA:I. The one that irks me the most is having killed Leliana back in DA:O and somehow she is just back magically with no explanation of how it happened.. Dont get me wrong, I like Leliana, but during that play through ages ago, my warden was a bit of a jerk. Speaking of warden, when the heck is dragon age gonna finally elaborate on what the hero of ferelden is doing?