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[wolfsite]

 There are a lot of choices in the Keep that you can bring over from past games that for some reason aren't even brought up in DA:I. The one that irks me the most is having killed Leliana back in DA:O and somehow she is just back magically with no explanation of how it happened.. Dont get me wrong, I like Leliana, but during that play through ages ago, my warden was a bit of a jerk. Speaking of warden, when the heck is dragon age gonna finally elaborate on what the hero of ferelden is doing?

They have explained this is several threads (check the Dragon Age 2 forums for more).

 

Hell during Kai Lang's final boss fight in Mass Effect 3 I lined up a Sniper shot and blew his head clean off, but in the next scene he still alive.

[Robert Trevelyan]

 There are a lot of choices in the Keep that you can bring over from past games that for some reason aren't even brought up in DA:I.

 

 

They were never intended to, though. The reason that they are recorded in The Keep is in order to log all the Flags which *could* have a bearing on something in future titles. Not *will*.

 

The original games' Flags were a broken up mess. Importing from DAO to DA2 frequently had the odd item go wrong. Like even if you fortified Amarathine to its final highest level anybody NOT in your final party was always considered to have Died, even though the Awakening End Slides listed their having survived.

 

The purpose of The Keep is to have a permanent importable record for future use. It doesn't mean all or any of those choices will be used each time. But it makes it possible for them to be used if Bioware want to.

[Arakat]

I'm also disappointed that (spoilers for the Masked Empire and the Orlesian ball)

 

Spoiler

Briala's eluvians played no part in the story, apart from Gaspard apparently wanting to seize them (and even that was only in an undelivered letter)

 

In general, the eluvians seemed pretty underused.

[Robert Trevelyan]

I'm also disappointed that (spoilers for the Masked Empire and the Orlesian ball)

 

Spoiler

Briala's eluvians played no part in the story, apart from Gaspard apparently wanting to seize them (and even that was only in an undelivered letter)

 

In general, the eluvians seemed pretty underused.

 

They do tend to be a bit careful over just how much of the books and comics they acknowledge. I would imagine just in case, at some later date, some kind of problem comes up with ownership or printing.

[tomar65]

I think there are "retcon explanations" from this choice : if you kill Leliana, it's only in the Sacred Ashes temple, so her resurection is explained either by "the warth of the creator" (if you're a believer) or the overcrawling lyrium in the place remarked by Oghren (if you're more pragmatic). Don't know if it is remarkable in DAI though (by having a Leliana more btter or enigmatic) cause it was not in my playthrough (yet...).

 

As for the HoF, you can unlock a operation wich will reveal he/she went far from the west, searching of a way to cure the blight and avoiding the calling.

 

The whole Leliana thing make me wonder why they made the urn disappear though, even if you keep it intact.

[LobselVith8]

Merrill's mirror is supposed to be the same from the one in dalish Origins, so it seems really weird it's other end would be in the crossroads & not the blighted city it was apparently connected to in Origins. Perhaps Merrill's meddling reset it & the Illuvian nexus is a kind of safeguard, or they can connect more than one spot.

No, Merrill built her own Eluvian; it isn't the same one that was found in the Elven Ruins. She did incorporate a shard from that Eluvian into its construction.

As for why Merrill's Eluvian appears in the Crossroads, that's explained by Morrigan. As she tells the Inquisitor, "I call it the Crossroads, a place where all Eluvians join... wherever they might be."

[tomar65]

Long time that I created this little subject of mine, but I just finished playing Trespasser and I wanted to show a little bitter... again. Because we just have got a whole plot around the eluvians, with the crossroads and all... and still no sign of Merril's mirror.

 

The worst part is that there is, at least, a little Sondal reference !! (though it's more a easter egg than a cameo, this little enchantment-journal in the fade)

 

I would had asked no more than that, an little reference, not necessary a plot point. I still know the "restored mirror" is an option in the World state, but won't it would be great if, around the various places the Inquisitor can discover through the eluvians, he would have step in a old, abandoned house in Kirkwall alienage, founding only a abandoned letter ("Hey Daisy, it's Varric, heard Hawke has gone to Weishaupt, why don't you go join him ?") and maybe a object or two ?

 

Really seems like a waste to me...

[Mr.House]

You are chasing qunari through the mirrors, who are destroying mirrors they don't need and only keeping ones activated they need. Why the hell would the qunari go to a random dalish bloodmage house who does not even know what eluvians do.

[tomar65]

Huh, to invade Kirkwall and take a revenge to their failed coup in DA2 ?

[Mr.House]

But that's not their plan, there plan is to smuggle gaatlok into palaces across the south to kill heads of state, they have no intention of invading Kirkwall or "revenge"

[tomar65]

Okay, so maybe it would be complicated to tie it to the plot, but I still think a little easter egg would have be appropriated.

 

Therefore, if the epilogue states that many elves try to join Fen'harel forces, well the ones of Kirkwall can have a nice way to do it...

[KumoriYami]

I think Varric? or maybe Cullen mentions something about how Merril's mirror caused numerous problems when Morrigan moves her eluvian into Skyhold.

[ThePhoenixKing]

Yeah, it's a real shame that Merrill didn't play a part in this game; I would have loved to see her employ her Eluvian knowledge a bit, and a lot of the revelations about the ancient elves seem like they were tailor-made for her (seriously, I want to see her reaction).

 

That said, here's a crazy idea: maybe Merrill could show up in DA4 as part of an elven faction opposed to Solas? Let's face it, Merrill might have a more liberal attitude towards spirits and blood magic than most people, but I sincerely doubt she's on board for Solas' plan to destroy the world and wipe out anyone who's not an ancient elf. After all, this is the girl who's made friends amongst non-elves, is willing to feel sorry for Anders and Fenris even though they're mean to her, can take a human for a lover, and is generally kind-hearted towards everyone. And after what happened to Marethari, there's no way she'd be as reckless as Solas constantly seems to be. Merrill vs. Solas for the soul of the elven race? I've heard of worse plot points.

 

And yeah, there's no excuse for not having Bodahn and Sandal show up more substantially. Bodahn mentions how Celene invited them to the Orlesian court, so couldn't they at least have had a cameo?

[tomar65]

Given that there the possibility that Merril end up killed by Hawke in some DA2 endings, I doubt that she would take a major role in a future game.

 

 

However, maybe we finally gonna have a explanation for Sondal behaviour ? You have to admit that his "magic come back" prohecy in DA2 not only match Corypheus ; now that Trespasser had happen, I think it matches Solas as well.

[xPez]

It would be nice for BW to explain why Bodahn and Sondal didn't make it into DA:I, especially as DA2 kinda set it up for them to be in Orlais.

 

Not too bothered about Merrill, as I think she would have had to have been shoe-horned into it. Also there are too many variations on her Eluvian, and her relationship with other characters. It would be nice for her to turn up in a future DA though, involved with Solas and a possible elven rebellion story.

[9TailsFox]

Sandal is servant of most powerful Titan and collect dwarfs to fight against Solas elf's.

[magic713]

Bioware did provide one sure tease of Sandal's in Trespasser. A diary with the dwarf's deep hidden thoughts located in the Shattered Library.
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=049s7hXHpmM

[LobselVith8]

You are chasing qunari through the mirrors, who are destroying mirrors they don't need and only keeping ones activated they need. Why the hell would the qunari go to a random dalish bloodmage house who does not even know what eluvians do.

Merrill did know what the Eluvians did; she studied the lore on them, and felt they could be useful for the People. Considering how Gaspard says pretty much the same thing (except in terms of Orlais using them), she wasn't wrong.

That said, she took a responsibility to act as the de facto Keeper of the elves who were left homeless because of the war. She may be in Wycome at this point with her people, if Clan Lavellan thrived there (especially if she wanted to protect the elves from a possible war between Sebastian and Avelline over Kirkwall).

[In Exile]

Merrill did know what the Eluvians did; she studied the lore on them, and felt they could be useful for the People. Considering how Gaspard says pretty much the same thing (except in terms of Orlais using them), she wasn't wrong.

That said, she took a responsibility to act as the de facto Keeper of the elves who were left homeless because of the war. She may be in Wycome at this point with her people, if Clan Lavellan thrived there (especially if she wanted to protect the elves from a possible war between Sebastian and Avelline over Kirkwall).

She very clearly didn't know much about them. She could build one that didn't even work. There's a huge gulf between that and understanding it. I can't even recal if she knew there was a Crossroads.

[LobselVith8]

She very clearly didn't know much about them. She could build one that didn't even work. There's a huge gulf between that and understanding it. I can't even recal if she knew there was a Crossroads.

The fact that it's counterpart exists in the Crossroads (if Merrill didn't destroy it) shows that she knew more than most, considering she built a new one through information she extrapolated from the shard and the lore she studied.

[Reznore57]

She very clearly didn't know much about them. She could build one that didn't even work. There's a huge gulf between that and understanding it. I can't even recal if she knew there was a Crossroads.

 

She didn't know what it was.She thought it was a phone...

[EdwinLi]

Sandal does make a cameo mention in Trepasser. You can find a camp in the crossroads which has Sandal's journey.

 

So currently Sandal is in the crossroads and may appear in DA4.

[9TailsFox]

She didn't know what it was.She thought it was a phone...

Well it is, and very good phone. But Dorian have better phone and mobile iCrystal. 

[leaguer of one]

Um....

[tomar65]

A little update about Sondal comes in mind, since I saw on forums a fact that kinda hit me too : the prophecy he made in DA2, which actually match futures events in the Dragon Age World :

 

"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide[...]When he rises, everyone will see."

 

Some people, in the DAI first ending, believe "he" to be Corypheus and "the sky will open" refering to the breach... but now that Trespasser had come, I became pretty clear that "he" is Solas and that Sondal is referring to his project to tear down the veil. Which reinforce the idea that Sondal can come back in Dragon Age, as he became more of a easter egg now...