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[KaiserShep]

Cassandra's like a not evil Faora. Resistance is futile, I says.

[Colonelkillabee]

All literature and mythology has revolved around archetypes. Entire fields of psychology devote volumes to this. It's simply human to recognize it. Not mere labeling. You can play with them and stretch the symbolism, so it's never too general either. 

That's fine, as long as you understand that these aren't law and definite when defining people.

 

A person in a setting that lacks the focus on religion that Thedas has can still be very religious, but you wouldn't know how much because the setting of the story never lets them show it. All I am saying, is you can't call Ashley casually religious based on what she said, as one can make an argument that it takes someone very faithful to still believe after everything she's seen and learned in Mass Effect.

 

If she was thrown into Thedas, she might throw herself to seeker training immediately. Who knows. On the surface, yes, Cassandra's obviously on a different religious level than she is, but it's a pointless and obvious comparison. The OP simply asked if they had any similarities, and they did, even if minor, mostly due to the fact that the settings are different, the characters are different, and everything about the romance's setup is different. Which you have to remember when comparing characters in the first place.

 

It's unfair to judge someone's faith based on someone else's at any time, let alone one in a story that is focused around religion while another is not.

[Colonelkillabee]

If it's not about who's a better whatever-ian then saying ancient whatever-ians make us look ****** poor by comparison is rather odd. In terms of dedication, there are plenty of people who express as much outward religious devotion in modern times as Cassandra, minus the slaughtering of infidels bit. Maybe Ashley lives in ME's glorious atheist future, but that's not really a progression of time that you can blame their difference of perspectives on IMO. That's just ME's hypothetical setting. So far time hasn't made people less capable of devotion by any means.

What you're not getting is I'm not the one saying Cassandra's religious occupation makes her more or less devout. I'm saying that on the surface, she appears to be because Ash can't show her faith to us in that setting. I'm saying basically you can't make this judgement from surface observations. If anything, you're on my side, but don't realize it yet.

[Colonelkillabee]

I'll put it simpler terms.. if we transferred them to D&D (where the types are more represented), then Ash is just a warrior class. Cass is a cleric or paladin, as I said. They are different. It doesn't mean the warrior can't be religious.. it's just about the main "schtick" of the character. Try not to get offended if I say Ash isn't that devout. I mean, she isn't devout compared to a freaking Paladin. Apples and oranges, man.

 

Fuckin' damn, man. I like you, but damn. 

I'll end it with saying simply that I don't classify people like RPG's and that's where I think you and I are having our disagreements at.

[Colonelkillabee]

We're talking about exactly that : RPGs. And we're beyond disagreeing. You're just needlessly difficult. Comparing a soldier to the equivalent of a warrior monk with caster powers and lifelong religious service.

The game is an rpg, yes, but they're actual characters, and I'm looking at them like actual people.

 

 

Dude, she's just some chick in the military who said she believes in God. Big deal. 

You don't judge people like this in real life do you? My grandmother goes to church every sunday, and sometimes even on weekdays. On the surface, she seems like a better christian than me, as I never go to church. Yet I know more about the bible than she does in my sleep. You can't judge characters by their labels.

[Colonelkillabee]

I'm not needlessly being difficult, I just simply don't at all agree with what you're saying.

[Kinsz]

You two should get a room or perhaps get back on topic, just saying :-)

[Colonelkillabee]

If you're looking at them as actual people, then Cass is the equiivalent of the Vatican guard or someone like a Shaolin monk. 

 

You're still stretching it.

So a vatican guard is suddenly more devout than anyone else just because of their occupation? I can never be more religious than a vatican guard?

 

 

You two should get a room or perhaps get back on topic, just saying :-)

 

I'm done, lol.

[Colonelkillabee]

 

and now he's comparing it to me insulting his grandma. lol

What?

 

edit: Nevermind, lol.

[Jaison1986]

So a vatican guard is suddenly more devout than anyone else just because of their occupation? I can never be more religious than a vatican guard?

 

 

 

I'm done, lol.

 

Seriously man, what's the big deal? Is it so criminal that Cassandra might be more religiously devout then Ashley?

[Colonelkillabee]

Seriously man, what's the big deal? Is it so criminal that Cassandra might be more religiously devout then Ashley?

No, but you can't make that judgement based on someone's occupation. Otherwise the chatholic priests banging boys are more devout than all of us.

[Colonelkillabee]

Just gonna put it out there that I actually like Cassandra much more than I do Ashley.

[Pillowy_Object]

i'd vote cassandra… pretty satisfying romance. harding can't be romanced, its a dead end.

[Colonelkillabee]

*Disgusted noise*

 

You're taking this too far. 

It shows my point though in the most basic way I possibly can. And that's where I stand on the subject.

 

If anyone else wants to continue, I suggest PMing me. Otherwise, you can just re read my posts to get what I'm saying.

[Pillowy_Object]

Is Cassandra's romance somewhat similar to Ashley's romance in ME1? I felt there are some similarities between the two. I was a big fan of Ashley

Yes. I was a big Ash fan too, and I felt that some of Cassandra's traits and personality were in the same vein, which was pretty great (for me)

[Colonelkillabee]

It doesn't show any point. You're too literal for your own good.

Lol can we just end it already? If anything, I'd say you're being too literal, and we're never gonna agree. PM me if you need to.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

My Inquisitioner can't romance her, but I give another vote for Cassandra. What's not to love about her character?