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Plot Inconsistencies: "Prince-Consort" and Anora's Surname.


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This is 100% wrong.  The option says "marry Anora, become prince-consort" and there is no option for "become King, marry no one"...  I fail to understand why people believe this means the Human Noble was "elected".
 
If the Human Noble was elected King, he wouldn't need to have married Anora to obtain, or even hold, the position.  He could have married anybody(or nobody).  Anora is the one who was elected by the Banns as ruler of Ferelden.  And in exchange for the HOF's support in her election, she offered him power in the form of marriage(guaranteed to the Human Noble because such a match would be announced at the Landsmeet, so Anora couldn't back out after becoming Queen).

 

The reason why a Female Cousland becomes Queen, as opposed to the male Cousland, is because Alistair is indifferent as to the formalities, and actually wants to share power.  Anora does not.  The Cousland is the King of Ferelden to the commoners because they don't know any better.  To the historians, he controls only what Anora wants him to control.

not true,when are you announcing to the landsmeet,you say that you'll rule with Anora,not that you'll be just her husband,
if you were just marrying her with no power  i would have been a personal "plaything",i would be on the same level of Leliana to King Warden\Female Warden to Alistair,i would not be a royal at all,but i am.

if Anora ruled alone then the ending shouldn't have said that he (the warden) and Anora bickered for the throne control
if he wasn't elected as ruler he would have no right to fight Anora for the throne as he's no royal,but he can because he's King,
in truth the warden is a King ,only that a greedy bit.c** Queen that wants absolute control and fears of being shadowed again by her husband,if that's the case,she's shadowed already because the commoners aknownledge the Warden as the King,and the warden is the most respected and powerful person in Ferelden,after killing the archdemon and surviving,Anora is already a shadow.

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if Anora ruled alone it would be pointless to marry her and i refuse to believe that option was done "for the lulz".

if Anora ruled alone,then why announce me as King to the people?
if i was just her husband then she shouldn't have announce me as the king.

At the landsmeet is declared that you will rule with Anora jointly,so you are king in your own right.
Alistair doesn't care,true,but Anora doesn't have much of a choice.she needs your support,because she knows that i would support Alistair if she doesn't make me King.


the Warden is King,and i'll keep arguing about it until Bioware has fixed the situation by properly referring to the Warden as King.
 


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if Anora ruled alone it would be pointless to marry her and i refuse to believe that option was done "for the lulz".

 

Exactly. And that's what it boils down to. There is no real reason to marry her unless doing so gets you on the throne. It's a game perk. It's a cool plot point that applies to the human noble. Becoming a powerless spouse to a woman you don't know (barring headcanon) is not at all interesting or desired by any player.

 

That said, we can headcanon our way to having the Hero and Anora have some deeper connection, but that is not readily apparent in the game itself.

 

Also, on a side note regarding those who doubt the Cousland was Teyrn of Highever to begin with, thus not a strong candidate for the throne, I was watching a video of the human noble male origin, and it suddenly dawned on me, it was so obvious...

 

Bryce left the human noble in charge of Highever while he and Fergus were away. So that means, should anything happen to him (and conceivably, Eleanor) then the youngest Cousland is automatically Teyrn since he was appointed to watch over Highever AND train the troops just in case the worst should happen. So upon Bryce and Eleanor dying, the youngest Cousland automatically becomes Teyrn, unless you question Bryce about it and he changes this by saying Fergus is the new Teyrn.

 

Even in that case however, Fergus later goes M.I.A. in the wilds, which means the title falls to the last known surviving Cousland.


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Anora makes it clear you're her dish rag if you want to ally with her. I take the inconsistency to be more of an indication that there's a power struggle between the two.

 

Yeah, I think a female Warden who marries Alistair is called Queen, whereas a male Warden who marries Anora is called prince-consort.  It shows Anora is much more ambitious and concerned with power than Alistair, IMO.  It doesn't matter, anyway, as she has been unable to secure her legacy by producing an heir by DA:I.

 

Without an heir and being only the wife of the former king of Ferelden, I would think her grip on the throne would be tenuous at best by DA:I with nobles growing restless.


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Yeah, I think a female Warden who marries Alistair is called Queen, whereas a male Warden who marries Anora is called prince-consort.  It shows Anora is much more ambitious and concerned with power than Alistair, IMO.  It doesn't matter, anyway, as she has been unable to secure her legacy by producing an heir by DA:I.

 

Without an heir and being only the wife of the former king of Ferelden, I would think her grip on the throne would be tenuous at best by DA:I with nobles growing restless.

 

I don't know. She doesn't try doing that to Alistair if they are matched together. I think it's because she's either more afraid of the Cousland overtaking her (because he's clearly quite awesome), or she thinks Alistair is easily manipulated. So she has to try and hold the Cousland down somehow. Not that any such attempt could work. Everyone knows the Cousland is King, even Anora.

 

I think Anora's credibility took a hard hit during Inquisition thanks to the mages, but if she's being questioned then I think the Hero King would be as well for leaving court for some secret mission. In my version my Hero trusts Anora completely, and any ruling or order she gives while he is away is as if they both made it, and while my Hero would stand by her decision to grant asylum to the mages through Redcliffe, my Hero would have done it differently. He would have split all the mages up into various groups and relocated them to various cities throughout Ferelden. Furthermore, they would be moved to a new location every two weeks. This would keep the Templars from being able to find them, reduce demand on any one bannorn, and keep the mages from being militarized by anyone except the crown.

 

Her show of force in dealing with the mages made up for some of it, though she definately had to eat some of her own words that she gave to the banns about helping the mages. Again, no heir would have to apply to the King as well, though I know that isn't always how it turns out. Plus Anora has her previous marriage to Cailan going against her. She didn't produce an heir back then even after five years, and then ten years with the Hero King. I guess he could cover for her by saying it's on him since he's a Grey Warden, but I guess that all depends on what kind of Hero you have.

 

In any case, even in Alistair's, the next ruler(s) of Ferelden will most likely not be hereditary candidates.


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