Cameron will die of old age before finishing Avatar I´m afraid (and I´m curious to watch the sequels to see if he realizes that as happy as they are with their lives, Na´vi are also a technologically stale culture, which in the very long term just means extinction), then there´s Gunmn if he manages to finish Avatar. Besides, when he offered to do naother Alien movie to Fox they went for AvP instead.
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#77
Posté 11 février 2015 - 09:03
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He better frekin NOT he promissed me he was going to make Battle Angel Alita.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 09:05
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I always wonder why people b*tch about Avatar. The complaints they make are the weakest, most pulled out of the ass things I've ever heard.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 09:18
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As much as he was responsible for being the creator, Ridley Scott didn't impress anyone with how his vision for Prometheus turned out and I think it's time to admit that the Alien franchise only really got great with Cameron (not that he needs a bigger ego) at the helm. I say let Cameron make the next Alien flick, since he at least knows what he's doing and is able to deliver a good film? Plus it'd keep him away from the Mary Suetopia of Avatar...
Alien was very much a old school monster movie and had a lot in common with the Universal Monster movies. Instead of taking place in the European country side, it took place in space and on a ship. Instead of the Mummy or Dr. Frankenstein's monster, it was a Xeno. At it's core Aliens 2 was an action movie that drew heavily from war movies and novels written by Robert A. Heinlein. It also drew from western movies as well. Both feature the same Alien creatures but when you start looking past that it almost becomes a case of two different movies that representing two different movie genres that draw from the same background story. So I don't think you can really compare the two without taking away from both movies.
While I liked Aliens. I think that worst thing the movie did was make the Aliens seem like less of a threat. Scott's take on the Alien was the perfect predator. A being that was so proficient and hunting/killing it's could wipe a space ships crew or a small town by itself. You get the idea that four or five of these things could take out an entire space station with little effort. When Cameron focused on large numbers and had a small group of Marines take them down in droves. It made them seem a lot less like the perfect predator.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 09:32
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I always wonder why people b*tch about Avatar. The complaints they make are the weakest, most pulled out of the ass things I've ever heard.
Oh Dances whith Smurfs i like that film not enougth Appa or Toph for my likeing..
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 09:44
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Really? Even curing chestbursters with CPR? I just find the idea really lame.
In fact most the Alien 3 ideas are bad IMO.
There's just not alot I feel you can do with the concept really.
I mean compared to Predator which I feel has alot more ideas you can run with for more movies because of Predators. Aside from the Red and Black Alien conflict from the comics. I don't feel you can do much else with Alien.
I think that's why Ridley Scott has said Paradise (Prometheus' sequel) won't have any Xenomorphs in it.
As far as things go, I don't see CPR working as that big of a stretch if the chest compressions are done, because it should force the chestburster up towards the mouth and one mouth would look as good to it as any other in theory.
I really just liked the idea of it being set on a wood covered satellite, I've never seen anything wooden in space before. The Alien lurking in the wheat field and killing would have been such a great scene and it would have be reminiscent of the raptor scene in Jurassic Park: The Lost World, except that it would have done that first if it had come out.
It just seems to me like it would have been a fresh and appropriate ending to the franchise.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 10:27
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Play Isolation, there´s still hope.
Currently doing just that
(it is damn good)
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#83
Posté 11 février 2015 - 10:46
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Currently doing just that
(it is damn good)
That's good news!
I've been wanting to play it, but I've been waiting for the price to drop a bit.
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Posté 12 février 2015 - 01:29
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That's good news!
I've been wanting to play it, but I've been waiting for the price to drop a bit.
Do it!
(mine came with the "last survivor" & "crew expendable" DLC too)
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 04:02
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 04:37
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I really just liked the idea of it being set on a wood covered satellite, I've never seen anything wooden in space before. The Alien lurking in the wheat field and killing would have been such a great scene and it would have be reminiscent of the raptor scene in Jurassic Park: The Lost World, except that it would have done that first if it had come out.
It just seems to me like it would have been a fresh and appropriate ending to the franchise.
I'd be giggling if that script was adapted for Dr Who, especially if they would have McGann play the eight Doctor for it. He had a role in Alien 3 afterall. Wooden planets with alien infested crops would be a breeze for the Doctor.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 05:30
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Great news to end the day with.
I'd be giggling if that script was adapted for Dr Who, especially if they would have McGann play the eight Doctor for it. He had a role in Alien 3 afterall. Wooden planets with alien infested crops would be a breeze for the Doctor.
I'd love to see the "wooden planet" adapted in some form, I don't really care where and Dr Who would be a great and well respected source to show it off. That'd be pretty sweet. I've never seen Dr Who, but it's on my to do list, I've heard so many good things about it.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 05:32
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Remember this thread?
It's happening btw.
http://www.thewrap.c...th-century-fox/
The Mack Daddy Supreme say, it can't get no worse so it's gotta get better.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 09:18
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What do you think, could this turn out to be the first good Alien movie in 30 years?
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 02:26
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Hey, the first AvP and Prometheus were some of the best gag comedies ever. Not that it was their intention, but if you have a sense of humor for it they were great. Can't wait foe Engineer Jesus from Prometheus 2.
More seriously, depends on what this new director is allowed. His plan seemed to ignore 3 & R, which is a good start for me. If he can do that and expand on the creature and the universe it could be good. Also, about time aliens take Earth.
More seriously, depends on what this new director is allowed. His plan seemed to ignore 3 & R, which is a good start for me. If he can do that and expand on the creature and the universe it could be good. Also, about time aliens take Earth.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:03
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After the wild success of X-Men: Days of Future Past's retconning shenanigans, maybe they'll take a page from the same book and cut out AVP, Resurrection and Alien 3 all together. It would be amazing to get a worthy sequel to Aliens.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:19
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I always wonder why people b*tch about Avatar. The complaints they make are the weakest, most pulled out of the ass things I've ever heard.
Well, the whole 'vastly superior army gets outgunned and beaten by space-Native Americans and a magic tree' thing was a little idiotic.
The fact that Cameron wants to make 2 more sequels is entirely stupid too. How could the plot to a sequel be anything other than "the humans return with more ships and nuke the planet from orbit"? One could argue that the humans losing in the first Avatar was a fluke, since nobody would have expected the magic tree. Unless the humans are entirely retarded, there's no logical reason they should ever lose any more conflicts with the Na'vi.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:21
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After the wild success of X-Men: Days of Future Past's retconning shenanigans, maybe they'll take a page from the same book and cut out AVP, Resurrection and Alien 3 all together. It would be amazing to get a worthy sequel to Aliens.
AVP is already out of continuity with both the Alien and Predator movies.
I'm pretty sure the entire AVP series (the movies, comics/novels and games) are in their own continuities, not strictly tied to the Alien and Predator movies beyond the presence of the Aliens and Predators and some obligatory name-dropping.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:28
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Damn, hammer both my accounts, huh? Aight, I see how it is.
Alright, on Avatar: It is a MAGIC space tree.
And AVP: Excellent point, though I would still rather it didn't happen.
Alright, on Avatar: It is a MAGIC space tree.
And AVP: Excellent point, though I would still rather it didn't happen.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:51
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After the wild success of X-Men: Days of Future Past's retconning shenanigans, maybe they'll take a page from the same book and cut out AVP, Resurrection and Alien 3 all together. It would be amazing to get a worthy sequel to Aliens.
X-Men 3 needed to go, and it was already in the source material (although back then it created a diverging timeline rather than changing your own, I think Marvel did away with that recently).
I saw no magic in Avatar BTW, the Gaia moon conscience seemed to me could be explained with science, a field where Na´Vi are quite behind humans. In the end, I took that the final battle killed so much native life so fast that the autoimmune response triggered.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:55
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Alright, on Avatar: It is a MAGIC space tree.
I've been calling it the 'magic tree' since I first mentioned it. So...
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I saw no magic in Avatar BTW, the Gaia moon conscience seemed to me could be explained with science, a field where Na´Vi are quite behind humans. In the end, I took that the final battle killed so much native life so fast that the autoimmune response triggered.
The tree in Avatar is 'science' in the same way that Synthesis is 'science' in Mass Effect. Synthesis at least vaguely tries to explain how it works, the tree just takes action with no prior mention except for some poorly-done obvious foreshadowing.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 07:00
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Go be confrontational somewhere else dude, I know you called it magic.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 07:03
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Go be confrontational somewhere else dude, I know you called it magic.
Nobody's being confrontational. You might be getting defensive, but nobody is being confrontational. I called it a magic tree, and you respond with 'it's a MAGIC tree'.
All you did was repeat what I had already stated, as though you were correcting me on something.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 07:36
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The tree in Avatar is 'science' in the same way that Synthesis is 'science' in Mass Effect. Synthesis at least vaguely tries to explain how it works, the tree just takes action with no prior mention except for some poorly-done obvious foreshadowing.
Can´t be spelled more clearly is poor foreshadowing now? Because damn it was obvious from very early on that the moon had a conscience tied to the mineral.
And don´t try to compare it to synthesis. Nothing is more pathetic than that ending and it pretense at being taken seriously. Saying the machine connected to God and told him to rewrite everything would have made more scientific sense than what we got.
