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I believe that this new Shadow Realms game is SO much potential, given biowares method of story telling!  (Opera esk games) Now from the looks of it this game is just another multiplayer ******.  Just like so many more out there, No i will admit the big dungeon boss being a human player does sound interesting.

 

I ask the Shadow Realm Deve team, that, if they can think of an epic Bioware worthy story.  Write it down and put it out on the table!  You could use this...... Multiplayerness to fuel a real game! (bioware style story telling)  Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.  But it would be awesome to see a strong character based single player story in this universe.  (would also like to see any story drive shadow realms games to continue the option of customizing your character, look, gender, whatever but this time, have a poster girl instead of a poster boy.   Doesn't happen often enough.)

 

To note:  I consider Multiplayer to be a cancer on video gaming society.  My hope is that bioware doesn't succumb to the tempations of the Multiplayer decease.  They were gods before multiplayer.  They can still be without it.  (mass effect 3's multiplayer was done right, however, and i encourage more like it, IF absolutely necessary)


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Shadow Realms does look interesting, but I have always loved asymmetric video games. A team of players vs. a 'dungeon master' definatly piqued my interest.

 

 

 

Also I don't see Multiplayer in and of itself as a blight on video games everywhere; I mean the very first game made was multiplayer so its not like it is some feature that just cropped up in the video game genre overnight. Multiplayer is actually a very positive element in games….. IF done right.



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They made by the same people who made Star Wars the Old Republic. I'm wary of how the game turns out. They didn't know whether they want the game to be focusing on multiplayer, storyline, or gameplay. When I first heard of the concept, I thought it would be a modern world kind of game, but it turns out to be a dungeon crawling like so many games out there. 


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I just wish more games were made for 2 persons. Sometimes you want to immerse yourself in a game world with that special someone who gets it all. Of course there's Divinity: Orginal Sin and such, but still.. 



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I would rather have it be a AAA game. It's reminds me of TSW and I would have love a Bioware storyline sets in a modern world with demons running amok. I'm not really like the " 4 vs 1 " thing about it. Still will give it a shot when it comes out.  



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The real question will we be able to romance the other group members?



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The real question will we be able to romance the other group members?

 

What a way to make things even more awkward between friends.



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What a way to make things even more awkward between friends.

2 dudebros playing, one play as a woman. It's not gay if the digital balls are not touching. 


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While I think the concept sounds kind of cool, it's not enough to build a $60 game around. I don't see how you could present any type of real "story" that would be applicable to both the "DM" player and the regulars, nor able to be conveyed in the 10-30 minute death matches it seems the game is going for.

Plus, it's fundamenrally PvP, so you are going to have insane amounts of balancing complaints and issues. Yes, the DM is supposed to be much more powerful than the players, but once a cheese strategy gets out, there will be plenty of butthurt when one side continuosly loses (the group or the DM, either or). Plus, it sounds like the coolest part of the game is the DM slot - it's really the unique linchpin of the design. So who the heck would want to be one of the "boring" adventurers, dependent on the skills of others?

I don't think it's a terrible concept for a game, but I do think it is a bad concept for a Bioware game. Without huge amounts of assets devoted to this (like Titanfall had), it runs the risk of being the rebirth of Shadowrun. No, I don't mean the totally cool Kickstarter - I mean the 2007 game that was MP only and was widely viewed as a dismal failure/ruined developers careers.





On the plus side, it has James Ohlen in charge, who may be the only guy left at Bioware able to pull something crazy like this off. So who the heck knows.

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On a different note, if this game is really set to be released this year in 2015... why is there no section of the forum dedicated to it? Seems odd. They have a section devoted to the Dragon Age Pokemon mobile phone game, but not this?

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On a different note, if this game is really set to be released this year in 2015... why is there no section of the forum dedicated to it? Seems odd. They have a section devoted to the Dragon Age Pokemon mobile phone game, but not this?

 

That is what's making me wonder just how much effort is being put into this game.



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That is what's making me wonder just how much effort is being put into this game.


Conversely, it's also making me wonder how much effort is being put into this forum.

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Conversely, it's also making me wonder how much effort is being put into this forum.

 

Good point.

 

...Very good point, even.

 

It'd be the least surprising outcome, I think, but also not the one I would like. This forum is more interesting than the game to me-- and I love PvP games.  :lol:



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Good point.

...Very good point, even.

It'd be the least surprising outcome, I think, but also not the one I would like. This forum is more interesting than the game to me-- and I love PvP games. :lol:


In a tangent about these forums... I was stunned today when I wandered on the ME forums and saw threads where Bioware employees and devs had responded to fans about the next ME game. After seeing a complete wasteland of Bioware involvement in the DA and Off Topic forums, it was quite weird.

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In a tangent about these forums... I was stunned today when I wandered on the ME forums and saw threads where Bioware employees and devs had responded to fans about the next ME game. After seeing a complete wasteland of Bioware involvement in the DA and Off Topic forums, it was quite weird.

 

No kidding. I think BioWare has taken an approach that favours Twitter over their own forums, personally. Their presence seems to be a constant there, from what I've seen myself.



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I'm still curious about this as well.  A couple of my friends got to try it out at PAX and they had a lot of fun with it even with it being clearly an alpha, but any news about the game disappeared after that.



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To note:  I consider Multiplayer to be a cancer on video gaming society.  My hope is that bioware doesn't succumb to the tempations of the Multiplayer decease.  They were gods before multiplayer.  They can still be without it.  (mass effect 3's multiplayer was done right, however, and i encourage more like it, IF absolutely necessary)

 

That is a pretty biased point of view. Perhaps you only never played a good multiplayer game. But I can assure you that a solid MP is anything but cancerous. One example at hands would be the ME3 MP that has been a very positive surprise (despite it's various shortcomings like the horrible RNG shop). Other examples would be various games that are designed as MP games from ground up. There are as many good MP games out there as there are bad SP games, you just got to look for them as it is with everything else in life.

 

 

About SR itself, I've been at the community reveal event at GamesCom 2014 and had the opportunity to ask the devs a couple questions and I was not the only one who asked about the game's planned story content. From what I remember, they had planned it be an ongoing prgression, like chapters that are going to be progressively released. There was not much concrete information however and the primary gameplay design (the dungeon crawl) hardly lends itself to an interactive story. But they had confirmed that the game would come with a large overworld (contrast to the underworld (the individual dungeons)) that the player could interact with.

 

They said it wouldn't be a massive, tightknit story as in previous BioWare games, but they had definately planned to make the story a good part of the game. It remains a MP game however and with that the restriction that comes for story telling in a cooperatively/competitively environment.



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I am cautious about it.

 

For me, it depends on just what episodic story they want to do.

 

I'm fully prepared for having no personal RP agency. I'll be going in just being interested in the 'linear' story they want to tell. Maybe it'll be good. Maybe it'll be terrible, and I'll quickly get sick of the gameplay.



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While I think the concept sounds kind of cool, it's not enough to build a $60 game around. I don't see how you could present any type of real "story" that would be applicable to both the "DM" player and the regulars, nor able to be conveyed in the 10-30 minute death matches it seems the game is going for.

Plus, it's fundamenrally PvP, so you are going to have insane amounts of balancing complaints and issues. Yes, the DM is supposed to be much more powerful than the players, but once a cheese strategy gets out, there will be plenty of butthurt when one side continuosly loses (the group or the DM, either or). Plus, it sounds like the coolest part of the game is the DM slot - it's really the unique linchpin of the design. So who the heck would want to be one of the "boring" adventurers, dependent on the skills of others?

I don't think it's a terrible concept for a game, but I do think it is a bad concept for a Bioware game. Without huge amounts of assets devoted to this (like Titanfall had), it runs the risk of being the rebirth of Shadowrun. No, I don't mean the totally cool Kickstarter - I mean the 2007 game that was MP only and was widely viewed as a dismal failure/ruined developers careers.


On the plus side, it has James Ohlen in charge, who may be the only guy left at Bioware able to pull something crazy like this off. So who the heck knows.

 
Maybe you did mean the Kickstarter--a shallow experience riding on the hype of the name? Oh, snap!
 

Conversely, it's also making me wonder how much effort is being put into this forum.

 
I wouldn't be surprised if they moved it elsewhere, like the TOR site.

No kidding. I think BioWare has taken an approach that favours Twitter over their own forums, personally. Their presence seems to be a constant there, from what I've seen myself.


And they're on flipping Neogaf. Flip.

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Maybe you did mean the Kickstarter--a shallow experience riding on the hype of the name? Oh, snap!


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I wouldn't be surprised if they moved it elsewhere, like the TOR site.


And they're on flipping Neogaf. Flip.


Watch that tongue!

And yeah, I could see them doing a separate site. Still, seems odd if they are less than 52 weeks from release, they don't have a forum for their users/potential fans to discuss the game, especially since it's an online/MP game.

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Watch that tongue!

And yeah, I could see them doing a separate site. Still, seems odd if they are less than 52 weeks from release, they don't have a forum for their users/potential fans to discuss the game, especially since it's an online/MP game.


None at all? That is odd. Though who knows how close we are to ME4 (I'd wager around the same time, maybe a little longer like March 2016) and we don't have one.

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None at all? That is odd. Though who knows how close we are to ME4 (I'd wager around the same time, maybe a little longer like March 2016) and we don't have one.


No forum at all for Shadow Realms, just a link to join the beta once it goes live. There have been Halloween themed updates on the website about art assets and such as recently as October, so I suppose it's not totally abandoned or vaporware at this point... still, very weird.



And I think before February we'll see a big announcement on the ME4 front that will prompt the rollout of their new forums. Maker persevere us all...

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Is this is true?

 

http://kotaku.com/so...dium=Socialflow



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The real question will we be able to romance the other group members?

Virtual Male Gaze confirmed?



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http://www.gamespot....mpaign=homepage

 

Rumour mill is buzzing that the game is getting a complete overhaul and won't come out till 2017.  However one rumour is pointing to a full campaign rather than episodic content.