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Uh, just a few days away and so much to keep up with :).
 

Never tried sticky toffee pudding, but I am pretty sure I could do it. Guys, you make me try new stuff and I like it!
 

I honestly don't know, the recipes with meat were the first that came up. I figure we just might be a tiny bit OT ;), but then again I bet both mince pies and sticky toffee pudding are a staple in Thedas :D.
 

:lol: Can't forget the cheese wheel!
 

Oh yeah, please give them a happy ending! Pretty please? I already teared up when I read the 2nd chapter, just let me know before you kill one of them off in the finale, so I don't read it *overly dramatic gesture*. Or give them a different (and happy ;) ) ending for the fan fiction and another one for your class :)?
 

Definitely! Here's the new chapter: http://archiveofouro...hapters/7493993

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And an update for It's Hard Being A Gentleman :) : https://www.fanficti...ing-A-Gentleman
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ETA: I just noticed that I missed an N in mince pies. Oops *lol*. Not that desperate yet.


Totally seconded on the happy ending for LumenIzampel's fic. I'm totally good with angst piled a mile high but I must have a happy ending. Seriously, whatever you think is best I'm sure I'll enjoy it. :lol:

Also, re: the Gentleman fic. Should we be using spoiler tags? I dunno. I will just in case.

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And please, shoot me the recipe for toffee pudding.
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Also, re: the Gentleman fic. Should we be using spoiler tags? I dunno. I will just in case.

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Cassandra/Varric, they are so cute together. Is go d-teidh tu, a mhúrinin, slán!
Siubhail, siubhail, siubhail, a rúin!
Siubhail go socair, agus siubhail go ciúin,
Siubhail go d-ti an doras agus eulaigh liom,
Is go d-teidh tu, a mhúrnín, slán!
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I have to say, you guys are impressively classy. I enjoy it when instead of outrage and anger when someone questions your choices, you respond with humour and patience. Glad I joined. It's refreshing! 


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I have to say, you guys are impressively classy. I enjoy it when instead of outrage and anger when someone questions your choices, you respond with humour and patience. Glad I joined. It's refreshing!


And it's lovely to meet someone else with such fabulous taste and discernment. :lol:
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Also, re: the Gentleman fic. Should we be using spoiler tags? I dunno. I will just in case.

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I'm genuinely not being funny, but I have to ask: why would you post in a thread that holds no interest for you?  I don't post on threads about...I dunno, theories about Sera being an elven goddess, or the optimal skill rotation for a necromancer, because I don't really care or have anything to add.  Some people like blue and other people like red.  What is the benefit of going to the people who like red and saying, "Why do you like red?  That's weird."  

 

Nobody here seems to be under any illusions that Cass and Varric are going to get together and live happily ever after with a dozen half-dwarf babies in the canon, and nobody that I've seen has been rampaging around the forum or the fandom (what little of it I've seen) pressing for this to be so.  At its simplest, people are saying "I like the dynamic between these two characters".  Other people don't, and that's fine, too.  I fail to see what harm is done, or anything particularly bizarre, in someone expressing an enjoyment of their relationship in whatever context.

 

Why did I post? Because it's amusing and somewhat interesting to observe. That the thread is still alive. That's all. So I chime in. I think I'm being harmless, personally. It's nothing.

 

Generally speaking, I'm curious about fan fiction/concepts in general... and why it evokes passion. I tend to take entertainment more at face value and I'm not a fan like this myself, so I'm sort of picking brains here as well. I don't really understand it. And I don't just mean Dragon Age.. I mean everything really. I have different ways of keeping an ongoing interest in shows/movies/games.

 

I like the dynamic too, but I don't see romance. I like the conflict between the two. If anything, I kind of view Varric as the final glue that seals the Quizzy/Cass romance.. he's sort of an indirect matchmaker to me.


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I can't quote things cause I'm in mobile and I'm mooching off the college WiFi, so I'm sorry about that. But I can't help to talk about the fic I'm writing: since I'm intending to pass the fic off in CW class, I have to put a lot of back story. I've already planned the ending so I can't make promises, but... at least its not all 100% angst, I guess? XD

And oh man, guys. You guys are awesome with responding to all the critique. I can't even try to sass them back and you guys did it. I'm so glad I joined.
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Why did I post? Because it's amusing and somewhat interesting to observe. That the thread is still alive. That's all. So I chime in. I think I'm being harmless, personally. It's nothing.

 

Generally speaking, I'm curious about fan fiction/concepts in general... and why it evokes passion. I tend to take entertainment more at face value and I'm not a fan like this myself, so I'm sort of picking brains here as well. I don't really understand it. And I don't just mean Dragon Age.. I mean everything really. I have different ways of keeping an ongoing interest in shows/movies/games.

 

I like the dynamic too, but I don't see romance. I like the conflict between the two. If anything, I kind of view Varric as the final glue that seals the Quizzy/Cass romance.. he's sort of an indirect matchmaker to me.

Honestly, I'm not sure I can explain my love of fan fiction, or Cass/Varric in any way satisfactorily. Other then to say that I love to read, I love romance and I love pairing up two seemingly incompatible characters. You can go to places with non-canon couples that may be harder with canon established couples, IMO, and honestly? It is quite fun. /shrug 


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Honestly, I'm not sure I can explain my love of fan fiction, or Cass/Varric in any way satisfactorily. Other then to say that I love to read, I love romance and I love pairing up two seemingly incompatible characters. You can go to places with non-canon couples that may be harder with canon established couples, IMO, and honestly? It is quite fun. /shrug 

 

Fair enough. In any case, I only stopped in to b.s. a little. Maybe bust people's chops a bit. I just thought it was a general discussion. I can respect that certain fan groups want a place to talk. Carry on.

 

As for unlikely couples, I like doing that with our own characters. Varric to me doesn't seem like he'd put in the effort to romance, period. I don't want to say he's lazy, but.... I don't see the commitment here. She has some demands that seem out of place for him. Regardless of them having funny banters together. Heh


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Why did I post? Because it's amusing and somewhat interesting to observe. That the thread is still alive. That's all. So I chime in. I think I'm being harmless, personally. It's nothing.

 

Generally speaking, I'm curious about fan fiction/concepts in general... and why it evokes passion. I tend to take entertainment more at face value and I'm not a fan like this myself, so I'm sort of picking brains here as well. I don't really understand it. And I don't just mean Dragon Age.. I mean everything really. I have different ways of keeping an ongoing interest in shows/movies/games.

 

I like the dynamic too, but I don't see romance. I like the conflict between the two. If anything, I kind of view Varric as the final glue that seals the Quizzy/Cass romance.. he's sort of an indirect matchmaker to me.

 

I can only speak for myself but I certainly had not really thought about this pairing before DAI.  I know Cassandra and Varric interact in DA2 but it's considerably less and on quite different terms, where the player is set up to not know what Cassandra's interest or endgame is - is she friend or foe?  I also don't really follow anything outside the games, e.g. the comics, the novels, etc. so I can't speak beyond that.  

 

For me, what sparked my interest was some of the little interactions between them in Inquisition - Varric's increasingly good-natured (to my mind) teasing; Cass sassing Varric about 'wanting the Divine to see the chest hair for herself'; the fact she secretly loves his books and is a romantic; her not-always-successful attempts to apologise for what happened in Kirkwall.  Combine that with conversations you can have separately with them where they almost inadvertently reveal some respect for each other's personalities (he envies her decisiveness and she recognises that 'his heart is virtuous' in spite of his lying and roguery), and that sort of sealed it for me.  I'm not obsessively invested in it; I just think they'd be an interesting pair.

 

I'm struggling to think of other examples of things where I've felt an interest in stories outside the 'canon', so to speak, although there are of course lots of things I watch or read or play where I like the thing on the whole, but there are little things I personally would change or don't like.  Take Warehouse 13, for example (and spoilers, if anyone is planning to watch it): I felt that the time reversal in Season 4 (?) was an irritating retcon because to me it erased all of HG's character growth.  I wasn't happy that she had died, but it felt like a satisfying, redemptive end to her arc.  To then undo all of that and not really explore her any further as a character was annoying.  Now, I haven't written or drawn anything about how the show might have been different if they'd kept her dead, but it makes sense to me that it's an idea other people might want to explore.

 

Same with any stories where perhaps two characters are set up as star-crossed lovers, or destined for each other, but perhaps the actors don't have a lot of chemistry or it's written in a way that makes some people think, 'well they're no good for each other, X seems like s/he'd be better off with Y since they have more in common' or what have you.  To take another WH13 example, I know that a significant proportion of viewers were hoping Myka and HG would become a couple, but instead Myka and Pete get together at the end of the series.  Personally, I liked their sort of sibling/platonic friends dynamic better, although I don't hate them as a couple.  

 

It's...it's imagining alternate universes I guess, all the myriad possibilities of 'what ifs' that we don't really have the luxury of indulging in real life where there is only one universe (that we can access, anyway), no save and reload, no extra life if we die.  That's one of the beautiful things about fiction, I think; comics would probably have died years ago if people didn't keep rebooting and retconning and finding new ways to tell stories about the same people.

 

Why does fiction evoke passion?  I think good fiction speaks to truths about reality, creates personalities that we can 'believe', psychologically, even though they aren't real.  It feels natural to me to have feelings and opinions about fictional characters we like or dislike or care about in some way, the way we do with real people, because we see humanity in them and want them to be happy (or suffer, potentially!)  And we want to see stories play themselves out in a setting where there's that get-out, maybe, that none of it is really real and there isn't pain and mess and tedious mundanity unless we will it there, and nobody is really hurt because when you close the book or shut down the game or turn off the film they stop.  I love RPGs and MMOs and such but I would be less than useless in a real-life fight, I imagine.  But I enjoy playing out that fantasy of being strong and noble and virtuous, better than I am, in fiction.

 

This is rambling nonsense now, but I guess it boils down to 'some people just like it', in that same unquantifiable way as some people love orange (me!) and some people loathe it.  It's not the most satisfying explanation, but it is what it is.

 

(Edit: Great googly moogly this turned out to be rather long.  I am not so good with the short pithy stuff these days.  I think I don't talk to people enough and then all my thoughts come out at once like the river Angren at the last march of the Ents. /dork)


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I should play ME, I figure? Just to see what they did with Garrus/Tali :).

To be honest, I have yet to see what they did, first hand. I always end up romancing Garrus myself. lol But yes, you should definitely play Mass Effect. I'd start with ME1, even though the controls are clunkier (IMO) than the last two. ME2 was my favorite. ME3 had the controversy over the ending, and I'm still kinda bitter about it myself, but even I think the ride there is worth it. and do yourself a favor and get all the DLC (the story stuff anyway) for each game. ME1 has some free DLC called "Bring Down the Sky" that comes with it but you to go thru some steps to gain access to it, so if you buy ME1, don't forget look into that here on the forums.

 

 

Cassandra/Varric, they are so cute together. Is go d-teidh tu, a mhúrinin, slán!
Siubhail, siubhail, siubhail, a rúin!
Siubhail go socair, agus siubhail go ciúin,
Siubhail go d-ti an doras agus eulaigh liom,
Is go d-teidh tu, a mhúrnín, slán!

I don't know what the rest of that meant, but it started of with "Cassandra/Varric, they are so cute together." so upvoting it is. lol

 

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Wow. Did you draw this? If not, where did you get it?  Cus WOW.

 

(Edit: Great googly moogly this turned out to be rather long.  I am not so good with the short pithy stuff these days.  I think I don't talk to people enough and then all my thoughts come out at once like the river Angren at the last march of the Ents. /dork)

lol I dunno. That whole post was win, to me. And then you top it off with a LOTR reference, so... yeah. I think you explained well. lol


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Also, re: the Gentleman fic. Should we be using spoiler tags? I dunno. I will just in case.

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Hey, I appreciate the criticism. I'll say it's entirely possible that my ability to write this fic has been outstripped by the content. Like when you try to play something on the piano that is above your skill level...you know how it should sound, and how you want it to sound, but your fingers just won't do what you want them to.

I will say this--I do view Varric as deeply insecure and perhaps lacking in self-esteem beneath the bluster. Exhibit A: his relationship/non-relationship with Bianca that, in my opinion, no person secure in themselves would put up with.

I also think the hints we get about his family life point to him being that way as well. Bartrand, for example...Varric may have disliked him, not trusted him, etc. etc. but in a way, Varric was never able to break the cycle of that abusive relationship until Bartrand died.

Time and time again in DA2 and DAI I see Varric either blame himself, or put responsibility on himself for, stuff that was in no way, shape or form, his fault.

I love the character, but I think deep down Varric has an intense...self-loathing may be too strong of a word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment.

Suffice it to say, Varric may have come across as a wimp afraid to act, but that wasn't entirely unintentional.

The fault lies with me though in failing to make that apparent or understandable. Like I said, probably bit off more than I could chew (because I have no clue how to fix my mistakes) and I apologize for that, and the subsequent unenjoyability of the chapter. Thank you for taking the time to let me know your thoughts, however.
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Cassandra/Varric, they are so cute together. Is go d-teidh tu, a mhúrinin, slán!
Siubhail, siubhail, siubhail, a rúin!
Siubhail go socair, agus siubhail go ciúin,
Siubhail go d-ti an doras agus eulaigh liom,
Is go d-teidh tu, a mhúrnín, slán!


Is this...Gaelic? Maybe someone can Google translate it.

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Hey, I appreciate the criticism. I'll say it's entirely possible that my ability to write this fic has been outstripped by the content. Like when you try to play something on the piano that is above your skill level...you know how it should sound, and how you want it to sound, but your fingers just won't do what you want them to.
I will say this--I do view Varric as deeply insecure and perhaps lacking in self-esteem beneath the bluster. Exhibit A: his relationship/non-relationship with Bianca that, in my opinion, no person secure in themselves would put up with.
I also think the hints we get about his family life point to him being that way as well. Bartrand, for example...Varric may have disliked him, not trusted him, etc. etc. but in a way, Varric was never able to break the cycle of that abusive relationship until Bartrand died.
Time and time again in DA2 and DAI I see Varric either blame himself, or put responsibility on himself for, stuff that was in no way, shape or form, his fault.
I love the character, but I think deep down Varric has an intense...self-loathing may be too strong of a word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment.
Suffice it to say, Varric may have come across as a wimp afraid to act, but that wasn't entirely unintentional.
The fault lies with me though in failing to make that apparent or understandable. Like I said, probably bit off more than I could chew (because I have no clue how to fix my mistakes) and I apologize for that, and the subsequent unenjoyability of the chapter. Thank you for taking the time to let me know your thoughts, however.


Oh no no no, don't think I was criticizing YOU. I'm enjoying this and looking forward to seeing how this all plays out. I was thinking in terms of him and not you as a writer, if that makes sense? Please write these characters how YOU see them, I got that's where you were going with varric being insecure. I don't think he's a wimp, just scared and if I were there with him, I'd be saying, Dude, go for it. And I did enjoy this chapter, your Varric is one of my favorites so far.
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It's more like bullsh*ting with you and wasting time in the morning. I don't know if "concern" is the right word.


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Noro lim, noro lim, Cassandra/Varric lovers

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Just dropping in some of my sketches from tumblr based on spirrum's Air in My Lungs, I had to sketch out some teenage Cassandra and Varric:

 

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Why did I post? Because it's amusing and somewhat interesting to observe. That the thread is still alive. That's all. So I chime in. I think I'm being harmless, personally. It's nothing.

 

Generally speaking, I'm curious about fan fiction/concepts in general... and why it evokes passion. I tend to take entertainment more at face value and I'm not a fan like this myself, so I'm sort of picking brains here as well. I don't really understand it. And I don't just mean Dragon Age.. I mean everything really. I have different ways of keeping an ongoing interest in shows/movies/games.

 

I like the dynamic too, but I don't see romance. I like the conflict between the two. If anything, I kind of view Varric as the final glue that seals the Quizzy/Cass romance.. he's sort of an indirect matchmaker to me.

 

I have been reading fanficiton for like 13 years, so my initial reasons for liking pairings 'shipping' are sort of foggy. Now it is just habit tbh..If I see characters I like, and they are plausible within cannon I'll read it. Un plausible I laugh at..like fenders...

 

In saying that, I'm also incredibly picky with fan fictions and shippings. 

 

So yeah *shrug*

 

 

 

On another note, 

 

I wonder what the devs think of this thread? I know one or two posted in the Tali/Garus thread on old bsn. I think we need a cool forum signature, to spread the tethraghast love around.

 

Anyway some tethraghast art!

 

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by raedoodles on tumblr


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I have to say, you guys are impressively classy. I enjoy it when instead of outrage and anger when someone questions your choices, you respond with humour and patience. Glad I joined. It's refreshing! 

 

 

I was going to bold parts of this post, and compliment them, but then I realized that there's really nothing to single out. 

 

I like everything about this post. 


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Just dropping in some of my sketches from tumblr based on spirrum's Air in My Lungs, I had to sketch out some teenage Cassandra and Varric:

 

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nullphysical your art has such personality! The idea of Varric and Cassandra as teenagers is just inherently fascinating (which is why spirrum is writing fic about it, I'm sure). The possibilities are so diverse. What was Varric up to? Did he have a disreputable youth? We know a little more about Cassandra, but like...did she enjoy romance novels as a young woman, or was that something she picked up later? Ugh. Love it.

 

(also thank you for the compliment rda and lady artifice! this thread is wonderful)


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I think fanfic is the kind of thing you inherently "get" or don't. I know once I was trying to explain the concept of fanfic to someone else and I was like, "Haven't you just wanted your favorite TV show to continue after it was cancelled, or thought they could've done a better job with a storyline, or maybe wanted to explore a character some more? Authors in fanfic can do all of that!"

And the other person looked at me, totally seriously, and said, "No, no, I've honestly never thought any of those things."

So...yeah. If you're the latter kind of person, I imagine you'll find fanfic and shipping to be ridiculous.

I came to this pairing for two reasons. First, because of this thread and the wonderful people in it, and second, because I loved Cass so much I looked for some fanfic with her, and most of it was like ::disgusted noise:: I'd like to think I'm not a prude, but the majority of it was self-inserts of people who themselves obviously wanted to have sex with Cassandra and it was very...porn-ish. And not good porn either, but like low-budget, squicky, "I shot this in my mom's basement" porn. Just..ugh.

The only decent fanfics I could find were a few Varric/Cass ones, because they seemed like the only ones interested in actually exploring the characters. So..here I am.

On a somewhat related note, does anyone want me to stop posting links and "reviews" to fanfic? (At least inasmuch as I review anything which is mostly "yay! Read this, it's awesome!") I notice I do that a lot, and if people don't like it and want to keep the discussion more character centric, I will.

ETA: another reason why I think this thread is so polite and civilized is because, and I could be wrong, but I think the average age of the posters in this thread skews significantly higher than the rest of BSN. I wonder why that is. Is there something about Varric/Cassandra that older people like more than younger people? Or does Elizabeth just keep the riff-raff out and everyone is like, "Oh, this is where the adults are hanging out? Cool!" :lol:
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Hey, I appreciate the criticism. I'll say it's entirely possible that my ability to write this fic has been outstripped by the content. Like when you try to play something on the piano that is above your skill level...you know how it should sound, and how you want it to sound, but your fingers just won't do what you want them to.

I will say this--I do view Varric as deeply insecure and perhaps lacking in self-esteem beneath the bluster. Exhibit A: his relationship/non-relationship with Bianca that, in my opinion, no person secure in themselves would put up with.

I also think the hints we get about his family life point to him being that way as well. Bartrand, for example...Varric may have disliked him, not trusted him, etc. etc. but in a way, Varric was never able to break the cycle of that abusive relationship until Bartrand died.

Time and time again in DA2 and DAI I see Varric either blame himself, or put responsibility on himself for, stuff that was in no way, shape or form, his fault.

I love the character, but I think deep down Varric has an intense...self-loathing may be too strong of a word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment.

Suffice it to say, Varric may have come across as a wimp afraid to act, but that wasn't entirely unintentional.

The fault lies with me though in failing to make that apparent or understandable. Like I said, probably bit off more than I could chew (because I have no clue how to fix my mistakes) and I apologize for that, and the subsequent unenjoyability of the chapter. Thank you for taking the time to let me know your thoughts, however.

 

Yeah I came to see Varric as quite insecure underneath the bluster as well.  The conversation you have with him after his big fight with Cassandra, particularly, I think.  I think in some ways he's happy with his life but for the things he doesn't like, he blames himself for a lot of it (Bianca, Kirkwall, what happened to Hawke).  He doesn't think he's as good a person as other people do.  And the fact that he so obviously envies Cass' decisiveness (even though she can sometimes fall on the side of 'impulsive'), I think betrays a lot of self-doubt and anxiety.  He questions his actions long enough that his inaction becomes a decision on its own, something I can definitely relate to!


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I think fanfic is the kind of thing you inherently "get" or don't. I know once I was trying to explain the concept of fanfic to someone else and I was like, "Haven't you just wanted your favorite TV show to continue after it was cancelled, or thought they could've done a better job with a storyline, or maybe wanted to explore a character some more? Authors in fanfic can do all of that!"
And the other person looked at me, totally seriously, and said, "No, no, I've honestly never thought any of those things."
So...yeah. If you're the latter kind of person, I imagine you'll find fanfic and shipping to be ridiculous.
I came to this pairing for two reasons. First, because of this thread and the wonderful people in it, and second, because I loved Cass so much I looked for some fanfic with her, and most of it was like ::disgusted noise:: I'd like to think I'm not a prude, but the majority of it was self-inserts of people who themselves obviously wanted to have sex with Cassandra and it was very...porn-ish. And not good porn either, but like low-budget, squicky, "I shot this in my mom's basement" porn. Just..ugh.
The only decent fanfics I could find were a few Varric/Cass ones, because they seemed like the only ones interested in actually exploring the characters. So..here I am.
On a somewhat related note, does anyone want me to stop posting links and "reviews" to fanfic? (At least inasmuch as I review anything which is mostly "yay! Read this, it's awesome!") I notice I do that a lot, and if people don't like it and want to keep the discussion more character centric, I will.
ETA: another reason why I think this thread is so polite and civilized is because, and I could be wrong, but I think the average age of the posters in this thread skews significantly higher than the rest of BSN. I wonder why that is. Is there something about Varric/Cassandra that older people like more than younger people? Or does Elizabeth just keep the riff-raff out and everyone is like, "Oh, this is where the adults are hanging out? Cool!" :lol:

For me it's more or less the same, reasons. The butchering of Cass's character in those porn fanfics annoys the hell out of me. I stoped reading anything to do with inquisitor/cassandra a while ago. The artworks of them are nice, but the fanfics so far are all :sick:.

As for the age thing, hmnn you might be onto something there.
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Oh no no no, don't think I was criticizing YOU. I'm enjoying this and looking forward to seeing how this all plays out. I was thinking in terms of him and not you as a writer, if that makes sense? Please write these characters how YOU see them, I got that's where you were going with varric being insecure. I don't think he's a wimp, just scared and if I were there with him, I'd be saying, Dude, go for it. And I did enjoy this chapter, your Varric is one of my favorites so far.

I totally agree on your posting!

Hunter, it wasn't a criticism of your work as a writer. Sometimes the readers just wish the characters would act differently. But it is not about what I or anybody else wishes your characters would do, it's your story and how you tell it. Otherwise we wouldn't enjoy reading liek we do! And in my opinion, you tell your story very well. But you know, just as long as they get the happy ending (jk ;) ).
 

I think fanfic is the kind of thing you inherently "get" or don't. I know once I was trying to explain the concept of fanfic to someone else and I was like, "Haven't you just wanted your favorite TV show to continue after it was cancelled, or thought they could've done a better job with a storyline, or maybe wanted to explore a character some more? Authors in fanfic can do all of that!"

I feel the same way about it. I remember, as a child I used to imagine stuff beyond what one or 2 of my favourite TV shows would show. Back then, no internet and I had no clue that there was anything like fanfiction or fanart in general. I had to come up with my own stuff, obviously So, the www is doing me a great favour here! :)

 

On a somewhat related note, does anyone want me to stop posting links and "reviews" to fanfic? (At least inasmuch as I review anything which is mostly "yay! Read this, it's awesome!") I notice I do that a lot, and if people don't like it and want to keep the discussion more character centric, I will.

ETA: another reason why I think this thread is so polite and civilized is because, and I could be wrong, but I think the average age of the posters in this thread skews significantly higher than the rest of BSN. I wonder why that is. Is there something about Varric/Cassandra that older people like more than younger people? Or does Elizabeth just keep the riff-raff out and everyone is like, "Oh, this is where the adults are hanging out? Cool!" :lol:

Nope, please continue with the links and reviews. I don't always comment on it but you already linked to a few stories I wouldn't have found with you. Thank you for that! :) And it's interesting to know what other people think about fics, what they like or what they think will happen next.

Yeah, I actually wondered if the "age thing" is the reason that this thread and the people contributing are so nice. Or maybe "younger" people (like teens I mean although I am convinced some do read here or even contribute) are just not as interested in Cassandra and Varric who both are around 40? Or the pairing is so obscure and weird that only we like it :D ? Does that make us weirdos *g*? Either way, I wouldn't want to have it differently :). I always have fun reading through the posts here and I often have to literally laugh out loudly.

 

Anyway, I do think that the older you get the more you appreciate it when other people spend a lot of time on something. Because time is precious when you have a job, a family, a life. And it doesn't go without saying that people share their creativity or let's say the products of it for free.

 

ETA: Thank you guys for sharing those wonderful drawings! :)


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It's likely that all those reasons (our age, and Cassandra/Varric's ages, and the weirdness of the pairing) contribute? Particularly since Cassandra/Varric doesn't necessarily fall into the wish fulfilment category? Or it's at least less obvious if it does.

 

I think why I'm interested in the possibility of them as a couple is because they disagree, they don't get along at all, and that changes slowly. They grow closer, as real people do. They know each other, they're very aware of their faults as people, they're not blinded by affection. It would also be a second love. Varric had Bianca, Cassandra had Regalyan, and neither of those romances worked out well (putting it a bit lightly). A second romance, especially for a couple who are mature, is all the more lovely because it's unexpected, because it's the second time around. 


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