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I feel gratified. It's something I never really tried before, and something I didn't think I was particularly good at? I know a lot of writers, and I've always been more of an artist, so I never thought I could write. Let alone that I could write something other people would enjoy. In writing fanfic, I found I actually do enjoy writing, and want to improve (especially with my grammar and punctuation). 

 

Public reception has been pretty good so far? I think I've had maybe two anons who were a little rude, and that's probably thanks to the fanbase for this pairing being so small. If I was writing a more popular pairing, I'd probably have been raked over the coals by now. It's really fulfilling to write something and to have people leave comments about how they read something I wrote and it made their crappy day better. It's very much a labour of love right now. I'd never even thought about wanting to be a published author (though now I kind of do want to try). 

 

It does take a while to write fics, the long ones particularly. It's a hell of a thing, really. I find I'm always worrying about whether I'm repetitive, or if I'm not being descriptive enough. Or am I being TOO descriptive? It's a lot of anxiety and having to really learn to be confident in yourself and in the people who beta your fics, and who read them. 


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I started writing because I liked the pairing and there were very very few fics for it. And initially, I just threw a little one shot out there I did in one sitting. But the more I thought, the more I wanted to do more and continue. And because I was kind of at a loose ends waiting for word on my grad program and I thought it might be fun, interesting and self-improving.

It's a lot of work. And a lot of introspection. I don't like writing. I like having written.

But the comments. The comments are really what kept me going. I guess maybe it was because mine was one of the first fics, but I got some of the most beautiful comments. Some of them literally made my day. Zerloc and Elizabeth used to leave paragraphs of the most lovely reviews anyone could wish for, and they left me beaming all day. Seeing one of them pop into my inbox and reading their thoughtful comments...well, it was the awesomest thing. (Thanks, Elizabeth and Zerloc, if you're still here.)

And the rest of the cheering section here made my day as well. Seeing people talk about something you created? One of the best feelings ever. And really, I know I'm not the most talented individual out there, but it was exhilirating and humbling.

I've been working on the next chapter of my fic, but it's hard writing Adamant as a person who abhors action scenes, so I got a bit stuck. In the meantime, I posted a random one shot of Tethraghast if anyone's interested and didn't see it. I don't know if it's quality or not, but...it's there.

I feel gratified. It's something I never really tried before, and something I didn't think I was particularly good at? I know a lot of writers, and I've always been more of an artist, so I never thought I could write. Let alone that I could write something other people would enjoy. In writing fanfic, I found I actually do enjoy writing, and want to improve (especially with my grammar and punctuation).

Public reception has been pretty good so far? I think I've had maybe two anons who were a little rude, and that's probably thanks to the fanbase for this pairing being so small. If I was writing a more popular pairing, I'd probably have been raked over the coals by now. It's really fulfilling to write something and to have people leave comments about how they read something I wrote and it made their crappy day better. It's very much a labour of love right now. I'd never even thought about wanting to be a published author (though now I kind of do want to try).

It does take a while to write fics, the long ones particularly. It's a hell of a thing, really. I find I'm always worrying about whether I'm repetitive, or if I'm not being descriptive enough. Or am I being TOO descriptive? It's a lot of anxiety and having to really learn to be confident in yourself and in the people who beta your fics, and who read them.

Yes, yes. As a reader, I tend to skip over a lot of description, and focus on the internal/external dialogues, and I think that as a writer I do the same. I don't know if this is a flaw, per se, although I'm sure if I took a class I'd get papers marked up with red pen and "more description" written in the margins.

You're lucky to have a beta. I know I could certainly use one. I have....a tendency...to use...too many ellipses--and perhaps--too many dashes--as well. And, of course, erratic, use, of, commas. Not to count my occasional wild leaps of logic and lack of description. Hmmm...I think I just answered why I can't get anyone to beta for me. It would be a full time job.

And sorry for all the O/T talk (if anyone is upset).
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http://archiveofouro...hapters/7920378 Latest chapter of Orange's Noir fic. Mild spoiler: Varric almost dies, and I'm in love with the Daimler.

I just pick this one of all the great links to posted because I also love the car :wub: . Isn't it kind of weird that we fangirls swoon over the car? Lol.
 

-Friends, Foes, and Lovers: http://archiveofouro...g/works/3606639 Varric and angst

This one really got me! They other stories are really good and this one was just a wonderful read. The author pushed my bottoms (eta: noooooo! I meant buttons! *lol*) and I was so drawn into the story, it's kind of embarrassing *blushing*. Not to mention how happy I was with the ending! ;)

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Actually, I was rather scared to share my fics to the thread because I've been gone for a long time and it feels preposterous for me to just go back suddenly and go "omg guys read my fic pls!!!" Yeah.

 No need to be scared, Lumen! I really enjoy reading your fics, although I only like angst when there's a happy ending. But you write well and I also check your blog from time to time :).
 

rda- It's nothing private! I hadn't written in a long time because nothing had really captured my attention. I had less than no desire to write anything at all, and then DA:I happened. I started quietly shipping Cassandra and Varric, and hoping that there was fanfic out there. There was not a whole hell of a lot, which was a little disappointing. I think I started writing when there were fewer than 30 fics on AO3, and I had read them all. I just wanted there to be more. So I started writing.

 This is a more than perfect reason to start writing!
 

*snip*

You're lucky to have a beta. I know I could certainly use one. I have....a tendency...to use...too many ellipses--and perhaps--too many dashes--as well. And, of course, erratic, use, of, commas. Not to count my occasional wild leaps of logic and lack of description. Hmmm...I think I just answered why I can't get anyone to beta for me. It would be a full time job.

Actually, I don't think your writing is as flawed as you think! I always enjoyed reading your fics and I do imagine Adamant is a pretty hard part to write. Unfortunately, I am only ok with spelling and grammar but for the rest I am not really suited being not a native speaker and probably not being able to respond in a timely manner :(.

 

Would you share the random one-shot, please? I didn't see it yet :). Or did I just miss it on the thread?


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Choose your own adventure time (please tell me I'm not the only one to remember these books.)

Page 1: You're sitting in front of a computer after a long week. You think about buying the new Dragon Age DLC, but decide against it. It'll break your mods, and you really can't stand seeing PJs in Skyhold. Besides, $15 is a little expensive. You might have to wait till next payday. So, you browse over to the BSN forum because maybe theres some new stuff in your favorite fandom. You need a little cheering up after a long week.

Your eyes light up when you see someone has posted a new fanfiction. It's smutty, and NSFW. Do you:

-Click on it and read and leave delightful comments and kudos afterwards? Go to page 32.
-Smut? You don't like smut. The nerve of some people, posting raunchy things like that where anyone can see. Go to page 64.

-page 32: http://archiveofouro...g/works/3624102

-page 64: You close out of the screen and decide to go to bed early. Unfortunately, you forget to turn your computer off. Your cooling fan fails, and the computer gets hot enough to ignite the can of "Dust Off" you left next to the computer. You awaken to a raging fire. Although you manage to escape, the firefighters are unable to put the fire out before it spread to your entire house. As you stand in front of the charred remains of your house and all your possessions, a single tear rolls down your cheek. If only you had read the smut...if only! Return to page 1.
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Choose your own adventure time (please tell me I'm not the only one to remember these books.)

Page 1: You're sitting in front of a computer after a long week. You think about buying the new Dragon Age DLC, but decide against it. It'll break your mods, and you really can't stand seeing PJs in Skyhold. Besides, $15 is a little expensive. You might have to wait till next payday. So, you browse over to the BSN forum because maybe theres some new stuff in your favorite fandom. You need a little cheering up after a long week.

Your eyes light up when you see someone has posted a new fanfiction. It's smutty, and NSFW. Do you:

-Click on it and read and leave delightful comments and kudos afterwards? Go to page 32.
-Smut? You don't like smut. The nerve of some people, posting raunchy things like that where anyone can see. Go to page 64.

-page 32: http://archiveofouro...g/works/3624102

-page 64: You close out of the screen and decide to go to bed early. Unfortunately, you forget to turn your computer off. Your cooling fan fails, and the computer gets hot enough to ignite the can of "Dust Off" you left next to the computer. You awaken to a raging fire. Although you manage to escape, the firefighters are unable to put the fire out before it spread to your entire house. As you stand in front of the charred remains of your house and all your possessions, a single tear rolls down your cheek. If only you had read the smut...if only! Return to page 1.

:D Read the smut, read it! It's really explicit, just saying!, and I love it. Orillia, you have outdone yourself!

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There was also a short update on the A big Deal about not very much: http://archiveofouro...hapters/7416920

With lots of allusions and funny, I liked it! :)


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*snip*

 

Solely because of self-preservation and not wanting my house to burn down (and not because I am perv and go for all that delicious awful smut  ;) ), I clicked the link.

 

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This one really got me! They other stories are really good and this one was just a wonderful read. The author pushed my bottoms and I was so drawn into the story, it's kind of embarrassing *blushing*. Not to mention how happy I was with the ending! ;)

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Would you share the random one-shot, please? I didn't see it yet :). Or did I just miss it on the thread?


Oh, uhm, you read it already. That one was mine. It's posted at my ff.net account under my name there, susx, but I also made an account at AO3 since I think I like it better. Thanks for liking it without even knowing it was mine! (High praise indeed!)

Although I have to laugh at your typo....hopefully I didn't push your bottom. ;)
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Although I have to laugh at your typo....hopefully I didn't push your bottom. ;)

*lmao* *rofl* Omg, that must've been a Freudian typo! :lol:

 

That was you? :)  Well done! I actually read it more than once by now. Maybe even more than twice.

 

ETA: I do prefer AO3 because I can give kudos and I really miss this on ff.net.

 

I am still laughing at myself and the typo. Probably will do that for a few minutes. Just too funny, lol.



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Today I learned there is a database management system called Cassandra.

 

The more you know!


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Thank you for the love my latest fic is getting, guys. I'm so happy you like it!

 

goodgirl, I also prefer AO3. ff.net messes up my formatting all the damn time. Ugh. 


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No need to be scared, Lumen! I really enjoy reading your fics, although I only like angst when there's a happy ending. But you write well and I also check your blog from time to time :).

 

Thank you!!! :'D but tbh I don't even know why I like writing angst. I just make myself sad. And someone told me my writing made them cry, and I was all "How do I react, what do I say???? Do I be happy that my writing moved them that much or???"

 

Or rather, I have no idea why I'm writing. I'm an art student. I shouldn't be doing this. Yet I still go on pages after pages of writing and I'm happy with my work and at the same time, I'm scared to share them. So yeah. it's like my second artwork medium, because oftentimes I'm not great with sending messages and stories with my art.

 

Today I learned there is a database management system called Cassandra.

 

The more you know!

 

Cassandra's a rather common name. So much that I once found a poem called "Cassandra's Wild Marriage Song." :lol: Sounds like something Varric will write.

 

 

ETA: I do prefer AO3 because I can give kudos and I really miss this on ff.net.

 

Also, I think fics on AO3 are generally better, I guess. You can also give "kudos" on ff.net in the form of favorites, though I think you have to be a member, unlike AO3's kudos.


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Thank you!!! :'D but tbh I don't even know why I like writing angst. I just make myself sad. And someone told me my writing made them cry, and I was all "How do I react, what do I say???? Do I be happy that my writing moved them that much or???"
 
Or rather, I have no idea why I'm writing. I'm an art student. I shouldn't be doing this. Yet I still go on pages after pages of writing and I'm happy with my work and at the same time, I'm scared to share them. So yeah. it's like my second artwork medium, because oftentimes I'm not great with sending messages and stories with my art.


Look, I've been reading fanfiction for a loooong time. And I have to tell you, the stories I have loved the most are rarely, if ever, written by literature/writing/composition students. Their stories tend to be all very same-y. I think there's probably a certain formula that scores them an A in their comp classes and that's how they all tend to write. It's technically proficient but largely soulless. They're too "polished", for lack of a better word, and in the process, they tend to polish the raw emotion and the heart of the piece right out.

So, put the thought that you can't, or shouldn't, be writing, out of your head. I mean, sure, you have to follow and know basic grammatical rules, but beyond that, if your soul is telling you to write, write, and don't be ashamed or embarrassed or think because you're "just an art student" you can't do this and do it well.
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I wonder if we can reach forty pages.

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I wonder if we can reach forty pages.


If we are, I hope someone else has got something insightful to post. I was about tapped out by page 10 and just show up now to post random gibberish.

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I wonder if we can reach forty pages.

Of course we will! :)

 

If we are, I hope someone else has got something insightful to post. I was about tapped out by page 10 and just show up now to post random gibberish.

Ah, as long as it has Cassandra and Varric in it, it's not gibberish. Or so I think :).

 

 

There have been a few fics this weekend but I didn't get to read them all yet :). I was really hoping on an update of Rest In The Warmest Places and Dreaming Red, though.



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There have been a few fics this weekend but I didn't get to read them all yet :). I was really hoping on an update of Rest In The Warmest Places and Dreaming Red, though.

Take your time, there's nothing mind-blowing. (Ok, that sounded bad.). I mean, there's stuff I'd definitely recommend as readable, but nothing like, "Holy crap, drop what you're doing and read this!"

(I'm ashamed of how much I read. I come by it honestly, though. I remember when I was a kid, our family dinners were a tableau of silence, as each and every person bought a book or magazine to the table. I never realized that everyone didn't eat like that in their home until I married my husband, and one day he had enough and snatched my book away from me at the breakfast table. I proceeded to then, completely unconsciously, start reading the cereal box. Yeah....)

My name is rda and I have a problem with reading.

I was really hoping for an update to Dreaming Red as well. Rest in the Warmest places, I'd still like an update, but I have to admit I was starting to lose track of what was going on.

And maybe SOMEONE will update her fic as promised instead of writing a one-shot. (Actually, that applies to the Gentleman fic as well as the Ghost fic, so both of you authors, if you happen to be reading, get cracking.). :)

ETA: And now that I think about it, doesn't spirrum have a multi- chapter fic that supposedly has one chapter to go that hasn't been updated in over a month? That's like running a marathon, and you're at mile 26, and all of a sudden you're like "F-it. I'm done here. Screw those last .2 miles," and walk off the course. (Says the person who is not an author...but dayum. It's aggravating.)
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I would really love for Rest in the Warmest Places to update. MayaAodhan had a really good multi chapter fic that's lying sadly abandoned... 
 
In happy news though, EnigmaticAgentScully has two fluffy cute ficlets up, and our own Hunter111 has begun posting It's Hard being a Gentleman on AO3! 
 
Where the Heart Is- EnigmaticAgentScully
Cassandra notices some new additions to her room, Varric indulges his inner decorator. Super cute and fluffy (also dedicated to me which. oh my god. *flails*)
 
Poison- EnigmaticAgentScully
Cassandra takes a hit from a darkspawn blade, one that she can't simply shrug off. Loaded down with all the hurt/comfort feels. My whole SOUL hurt. Lovely, lovely, lovely.

 

And of course:

 

It's Hard Being a Gentleman- Saphir

Varric and Cassandra slowly overcome their differences after a drunken encounter exposes more than either of them would prefer. :D 


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I would really love for Rest in the Warmest Places to update. MayaAodhan had a really good multi chapter fic that's lying sadly abandoned... 
 
In happy news though, EnigmaticAgentScully has two fluffy cute ficlets up, and our own Hunter111 has begun posting It's Hard being a Gentleman on AO3! 
 Where the Heart Is- EnigmaticAgentScully
Cassandra notices some new additions to her room, Varric indulges his inner decorator. Super cute and fluffy (also dedicated to me which. oh my god. *flails*)
 Poison- EnigmaticAgentScully
Cassandra takes a hit from a darkspawn blade, one that she can't simply shrug off. Loaded down with all the hurt/comfort feels. My whole SOUL hurt. Lovely, lovely, lovely.
 
And of course:
 
It's Hard Being a Gentleman- Saphir
Varric and Cassandra slowly overcome their differences after a drunken encounter exposes more than either of them would prefer. :D


Re: Maya Aodhan's fic. Were you talking about this one? https://www.fanficti...r-and-her-Rogue

Because it's marked complete and it reads as done to me. She actually updated it pretty regularly. Was there another one?

And I liked the Poison fic a lot. Then again, I always liked my characters to suffer, lol. Much more to my taste than cavity inducing fluff.

Where the Heart is is the aforementioned cavity inducing fluff, but I gotta admit....if someone started buying me furniture and commissioning art for my home, I'd be tempted to fall in love as well, :lol:

And re: Hard Being a Gentleman, hopefully that's a prelude to the release of a new chapter. Looks like the first chapter was changed around slightly. And, if anyone is steering clear of it based on the clichéd first chapter, don't. It hits its stride a bit later. It's different, anyway, than some of the other fics.
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Yes, I do have a new chapter. And I'll agree the first chapter isn't the best. I cleaned it up a bit, but I couldn't change it substantially without changing a significant part of the first few chapters, which I honestly didn't feel like doing.

I was also hoping to get another Varric and Cassandra one-shot done. I was just brainstorming and I thought it would be interesting to write a fic where Cassandra has a crisis of faith (and, of course, Varric is along for the ride). But, given she doesn't really have one all game, despite some of the things that happen, I knew it would be difficult to do. I finally thought of something that might precipitate it, and I'm trying to write it, but damn it's hard. And intellectually challenging. And I probably bit off way more than I could chew, but we'll see. I do see a slight improvement in my writing already just from having written what I've written so far, so I suppose challenging yourself, even if you fail, does have tangible benefits.
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rda, I am also waiting for someone to buy me furniture. But this person should set it up, too B) . I can't be bothered with Ikea manuals. I have to go and read fanfiction. On a side note, that story was sweet and fluffy, though :).

 

Yes, I do have a new chapter. And I'll agree the first chapter isn't the best. I cleaned it up a bit, but I couldn't change it substantially without changing a significant part of the first few chapters, which I honestly didn't feel like doing.

I just read it and it's prefectly fine to me and it still fits to the rest of your story. I am really happy that you are not only working on a new chapter for It's Hard Being A Gentleman but also on another fic :).

 

 

Here's some NSFW stuff on AO3:

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http://archiveofouro...g/works/3632472

 

And this one (also NSFW) was fun to read for me: http://archiveofouro...hapters/8043930

I do consider it OOC but it's entertaining ;).

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vehlr has posted some kid fluff about them (be careful, tooth ache coming in ;) ): http://vehlr.tumblr....ic-and-cass-you


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Oh gosh if someone was buying me furniture, it better not be that Ikea stuff. I'm talking hardwood stuff. Mahogany...teak...something like that. The kind of stuff that takes like 3 people to lift. :). (If we're dreaming, let's dream big, yes?)

And gosh. I love kid fic. That is my tooth rotting indulgence. :). Kidfic, pregnant fic, I love it all. Not too much of that in this fandom unfortunately. (I know most people don't love it, but I do). My only quibble with vehlr's stuff is it is not long enough. :)

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 Sorry folks, but this is a bad ship IMO.

 

 

It reminds me of people who ship Jack and Miranda in Mass Effect, as if it is clever because they are rivals. It is not clever. It is stupid.



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 Sorry folks, but this is a bad ship IMO.
 
 
It reminds me of people who ship Jack and Miranda in Mass Effect, as if it is clever because they are rivals. It is not clever. It is stupid.


uhh good for you, but the negativity ship has kind of sailed. This is where fans of the pairing gather, and disscuss things..and its a pretty happy thread. So if you want to call it stupid or w/e do so in another thread plz. :)
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 Sorry folks, but this is a bad ship IMO.

 

 

It reminds me of people who ship Jack and Miranda in Mass Effect, as if it is clever because they are rivals. It is not clever. It is stupid.

Wow. 8,000+ posts to your name and you bothered? Didn't realize the BSN was that slow.

 

Ok, then.

 

Firstly, we're not just shipping this simply because "haha rivals". Not to mention the fact that they've buried that hatchet by the end of the game, anyway, and are comrades-in-arms at this point at the very least.

 

Though their banter, their butting of heads, and the fact they grow to getting along in the game *IS* a big factor for me, personally, I'll admit. But it is more than that. They have many similarities, too. They are both romantics/idealists at heart, they're both good and decent people, they both fight for what they care about and believe in.

 

Secondly, they can have a ton of interesting scenarios:

 

- Anything to do with Hawke and the ppl from Kirkwall (I want to see Varric introduce Cass to Aveline, for instance. He bases her favorite character of his off her if the Swords & Shields cover is anything to go by, afterall.)

 

- Cassandra being a woman of open faith could have very neat interactions with Varric, the Secret Andrastian.

 

- Just the ever-wry Varric discovering the dour-at-first-glance Seeker's sense of humor and learning how to navigate that is interesting.

 

- There's the scenario where Cass starts to fall for Varric through the words he writes, since an author does bear their soul in a sense in every story they commit to paper. And she does LOVE his stories.

 

But you think that's stupid? Good for you, I guess?

 

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Oh, and the rest of you guys are amazing and awesome for linking so much fic and art here. My "to do list" for fanfic is completely swamped now. lol Its a lovely problem to have. Keep it up! :D


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