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You know, I have no issues with people disliking this ship. Heck most of my favorite ships are hated, but at this point in the thread, I think we are beyond this. At least ask a question to get some dialogue back and forth not, this is stupid. 

 

FWIW. this is a GREAT ship.


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Wait, we're not shipping this because we're like "ha ha rivals"? Dammit. First I was told we weren't shipping this to make it Bioware's canon to have them get married and have a dozen half-dwarf babies, and NOW no "ha ha rivals" EITHER? Ya'll are killing me over here.
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Wait, we're not shipping this because we're like "ha ha rivals"? Dammit. First I was told we weren't shipping this to make it Bioware's canon to have them get married and have a dozen half-dwarf babies, and NOW no "ha ha rivals" EITHER? Ya'll are killing me over here.

Oh I'm definitely shipping this to mind control Bioware into making them canon and marrying and having babies. Didn't you see the memo I sent out?

 

/halfjoking


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Oh I'm definitely shipping this to mind control Bioware into making them canon and marrying and having babies. Didn't you see the memo I sent out?
 
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I didn't see the memo, but now I'm intrigued. :)

Canon half-dwarf babies for the win.

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/half not joking
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Sorry for the double post, but if you have a free 5 minutes today, read this:  http://spirrum.tumbl...not-slow-for-us

 

It's from spirrum's tumblr.  It's just a quick, short little story, but it was so damn good.

 

I've been somewhat critical of some of this author's work in the past, not because she's not a good writer (she is) but because her writing style is, IMHO, somewhat weighty and ponderous, which makes it a bit ill-suited to romantic fluff, but exceedingly well-suited to...well, what she wrote about here.

 

I admit it.  I teared up.  (And I can't remember the last time I cried from fanfiction or fiction in general.)


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So some kind soul posted this in the Solas thread and it made me laugh. 

 

I know I know..not Solas...but it made me giggle

 

Cassandra and Varric

http://maverrix.devi...Shirt-524221164

 

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So I posted a new short story/one-shot thing if anyone cares.

http://archiveofouro...hapters/8106420
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Hunter, bro. That fic is GOOD. The second chapter is currently my favourite. I want more of it. 

 

rda- Yeah that was the fic I was thinking of, and for some reason on AO3 it had been marked 11/? but I think that might've been an error. I think you're correct and it is finished. Either way, a good fic. I need to re read it. 


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Yes, indeed. Loved that story of Varric tells. I kinda want to hear more about it now. lol

 

And of course I loved the Tethraghast. Varric, you know you love that she loves your stories, admit it. ;)

 

 

Sorry for the double post, but if you have a free 5 minutes today, read this:  http://spirrum.tumbl...not-slow-for-us

 

It's from spirrum's tumblr.  It's just a quick, short little story, but it was so damn good.

 

I've been somewhat critical of some of this author's work in the past, not because she's not a good writer (she is) but because her writing style is, IMHO, somewhat weighty and ponderous, which makes it a bit ill-suited to romantic fluff, but exceedingly well-suited to...well, what she wrote about here.

 

I admit it.  I teared up.  (And I can't remember the last time I cried from fanfiction or fiction in general.)

Ok, yeah, I teared up. lol I love what it showed about how well lived their life had been, though, to have everyone there.


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Sorry for the double post, but if you have a free 5 minutes today, read this:  http://spirrum.tumbl...not-slow-for-us

 

It's from spirrum's tumblr.  It's just a quick, short little story, but it was so damn good.

 

I've been somewhat critical of some of this author's work in the past, not because she's not a good writer (she is) but because her writing style is, IMHO, somewhat weighty and ponderous, which makes it a bit ill-suited to romantic fluff, but exceedingly well-suited to...well, what she wrote about here.

 

I admit it.  I teared up.  (And I can't remember the last time I cried from fanfiction or fiction in general.)

After a few sentences, it was kind of clear that this would be a heart breaking story, so I couldn't keep on reading it at work. My colleagues definitely would've looked funny with me all tearing up over fanfiction :lol: .

It was a great fic, so kudos to spirrum! But soso sad, I hardly was able to supress my sobs. Yeah, I probably cry in every movie ;).

 

ETA to avoid double posting: I found this on tumblr and thought it's a nice short drabble: Drinking

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Hunter, bro. That fic is GOOD. The second chapter is currently my favourite. I want more of it. 
 
rda- Yeah that was the fic I was thinking of, and for some reason on AO3 it had been marked 11/? but I think that might've been an error. I think you're correct and it is finished. Either way, a good fic. I need to re read it.


I like the first the best myself (kid fic seems like the kind of thing people love or hate, I'm firmly in the former camp) but agreed, both are good.

  

After a few sentences, it was kind of clear that this would be a heart breaking story, so I couldn't keep on reading it at work. My colleagues definitely would've looked funny with me all tearing up over fanfiction :lol: .
It was a great fic, so kudos to spirrum! But soso sad, I hardly was able to supress my sobs. Yeah, I probably cry in every movie ;).
 
ETA to avoid double posting: I found this on tumblr and thought it's a nice short drabble: Drinking

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Lol, that reminded me of the Seinfeld episode where George's girlfriend glosses over things by saying "yadda yadda" a lot, leading to this conversation with Elaine and Jerry:

"I met this lawyer, we went out to dinner, I had the lobster bisque, we went back to my place, yadda yadda yadda...I never heard from him again."
"But you yadda yadda'd over the best part!"
"No...I mentioned the bisque."
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Thanks a lot for being so nice, guys. Just knowing someone is out there and is using their precious free time to read what you write is awesome.

And I loved Spirrum's fic, too. CRAP she is so talented and I could never in a million years write like that and English is her SECOND language! (I teared up a bit too.)

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So I posted a new short story/one-shot thing if anyone cares.

http://archiveofouro...hapters/8106420

Oh, I liked this one, too! You have a way to mislead me with your stories, so I often find myself like "What the...?!" Then I go and read it again :). I really enjoy that you keep surprising me! Now what's happening to Herja and Edric (I read on the comments that I am not the only curious one *fg*)? I know you wrote that those fics are one-shots but maybe...? ;)

 

I have seen a couple of little drabbles on tumblr in the past few days but I have to go grocery shopping first, so I'll post the links later :).


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Found a new art

 

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by: egmaticagentalice


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Ok, not like it took me about 20hrs to go and get groceries... lol. Here are a few links to recent and short Tethraghast fics I found on tumblr :).
 
By antivanruffles on tumblr:
Is there a reason you are naked in my bed?
Wait a minute. Are you jealous?
 
And there was a whole bunch on vehlr's tumblr:
Follow up to the pregnancy fic I posted a few days ago
Fake relationship
Marry me?
Massage
I almost lost you

I found this waterfall

 

Enjoy your holidays! :)


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Speaking of art, I don't think this one has been posted here yet. Since it's very NSFW, I'll just post a link, and you can click at your own risk.

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Oh, and I also liked the follow-up to the pregnancy fic, though...

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Happy Easter, everyone, or, as I like to call it, another excuse to feel vaguely guilty for not going to church. :). Or, if you don't go in for Easter, happy holiday of your choice, or happy random Sunday.

And I'm glad you didn't get stuck at the grocery store for 20 hours Goodgirl. :lol:

Edit: Oh also, I saw this on the Cass thread; it's red lyrium Cass and really great art. http://enigmaticagentalice.tumblr.com/post/115596739785/the-light-shall-lead-her-safely-through-the-paths

Sorry for the links, I'm on an iPad and have no idea how to go about embedding pics. (If anyone knows, I'd be grateful if you could tell me...)

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Oh, and I also liked the follow-up to the pregnancy fic, though...

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I don't think they ever say. Which is weird, considering they have time to touch on a variety of other social topics from homosexuality to transgender persons, even in ways that don't necessarily flow naturally from the plot. I guess there's nobody on Bioware's cast of writers that feels strongly/personally enough on the issue to clarify the Chantry's position?

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Oh, and I also liked the follow-up to the pregnancy fic, though...

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Well, if they *did* make it like the Catholic church, abortion of a child would be considered wrong. The main difference btwn the Church position in the middle ages and now is when it was thought the pregnant woman had an actual human being in her, as opposed to a mineral/plant stage thing that only became human at the quickening. Modern science has shown the baby is always human, so its moved the bar for the start of life from the quickening to the moment of conception. 

 

Since Skyhold's surgeon is talking about the science of balancing humours as being fresh and new, I'd guess they'd all believe the quickening thing still? So, abortion wouldn't be considered killing a child till, like, 4 months in? I'd guess that the Chantry's position on it would mirror the Church in the middle ages.

 

As for birth control, I'm pretty sure that's always been frowned upon. I don't know the entire history of that doctrine, so I could be wrong, but I don't think so. And, of course, just cus its frowned upon by the Church doesn't mean it wasn't practiced by the populace, just like now, so. *shrugs*

 

I don't think they ever say. Which is weird, considering they have time to touch on a variety of other social topics from homosexuality to transgender persons, even in ways that don't necessarily flow naturally from the plot. I guess there's nobody on Bioware's cast of writers that feels strongly/personally enough on the issue to clarify the Chantry's position?

Honestly, not sure I *want* a plotline/writer in Bioware to solidify the Chantry's abortion position. Considering how politically left/liberal they are on other social issues...

 

I mean logically, it would make sense to simply stick with the medieval Catholicism parallels, but they certainly don't do that with sexuality. I don't want to go through a questline/conversation tree where I help a woman get an abortion or talk to her about how I support her "right to choose". A) I oppose abortion on moral grounds (though there would maybe be a choice to say so, so that's a slightly smaller concern) and B.)it'd feel kinda anachronistic to talk in those terms about it.

 

Fairbanks' mom was in particularly dire straights and didn't have an abortion. That, plus the medieval Church parallels, is enough headcanon fodder for me on this issue. lol

 

To bring it back on topic:

Not like I'm opposed to the issue being tackled in a fic. Like I've seen two so far now where people thought Cass was pregnant/Cass actually WAS pregnant, and people offered to "help" her with it via herbs. One was in Its Hard to be a Gentleman, I think? Both times its been handled with her completely in-character, imo, so yay for that. :)


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Hey, thanks for taking the time to answer. I love learning new stuff and getting insight on the different ways people think about things. No need to apologize for being OT, firstly because I do think it is somewhat relevant question to ask about the fantasy world, and secondly because it was interesting.

Besides, most of the longer threads occassionally develop into slightly OT things, before circling back around to the topic. As long as no one brings up anime, we're good here. :)

You're all pretty smart people, so I find what you all have to say interesting.

Me, on the other hand, I don't have much interesting knowledge so I have to rely on the kindness of others. :)

I mean logically, it would make sense to simply stick with the medieval Catholicism parallels, but they certainly don't do that with sexuality. I don't want to go through a questline/conversation tree where I help a woman get an abortion or talk to her about how I support her "right to choose". A) I oppose abortion on moral grounds (though there would maybe be a choice to say so, so that's a slightly smaller concern) and B.)it'd feel kinda anachronistic to talk in those terms about it.
 
Fairbanks' mom was in particularly dire straights and didn't have an abortion. That, plus the medieval Church parallels, is enough headcanon fodder for me on this issue. lol. :)


Uh, yeah, I would not want that as a quest. :P. I was thinking about it mostly as a codex or maybe just something that happens in the background matter-of-factly.

And I don't remember the Fairbanks mom thingie. Was that in Inquisition, or a book or something?

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I got that from the codex entries/journal entry things you read when gathering evidence for his nobility in the Emerald Graves. I can't be more specific unfortunately, as its actually been months since I last did that area and I haven't gotten there on my current playthrough, yet. But I remember the midwife who took his mom in making observations about her and her circumstances and it sounded like she was desperate at that point in life.


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To bring it back on topic:
Not like I'm opposed to the issue being tackled in a fic. Like I've seen two so far now where people thought Cass was pregnant/Cass actually WAS pregnant, and people offered to "help" her with it via herbs. One was in Its Hard to be a Gentleman, I think? Both times its been handled with her completely in-character, imo, so yay for that. :)


Yes, and I don't even know if I'd do that again because I still got a nastygram from someone even though a) it was apparently so oblique a few people didn't even know what was going on, and B) she wasn't even actually pregnant.

I had no idea people could be that...over-reactionary.

I think there actually could be a decent fic there with Cassandra considering something like that, and maybe doing it, or maybe not...but the person who writes that isn't going to be me.

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I think there actually could be a decent fic there with Cassandra considering something like that, and maybe doing it, or maybe not...but the person who writes that isn't going to be me.

I can't see Cassandra doing it, cus I think she'd value the life (or potential life, in her mind maybe) of her child regardless of circumstances. But I could see a story where the decision is a plot point. And she seriously considers it.

 

And then Varric finds out what's going on and does something stupidly romantic to convince her he's with her no matter what. Or he get's his head out of his butt (if it was jammed up there and that's why she's even being forced TO consider abortion in the first place) and THEN he does something stupidly romantic to convince her he's with her no matter what. Or something. lol I'm getting a bit carried away there.

 

Yes, and I don't even know if I'd do that again because I still got a nastygram from someone even though a) it was apparently so oblique a few people didn't even know what was going on, and B) she wasn't even actually pregnant..

 

It was character/relationship development btwn Leliana and Cass, world building in general, and flew over most people's heads anyway. You should totally keep it. (Just, you know, my opinion.)

 

 

You guys think Cass would push the issue of being a frontline fighter while she was pregnant? I'd think she's practical enough that, when it gets too hard to move in her armor, she'd consign herself to training recruits or making battleplans, but I dunno. Think she'd see the need to hang back on her own, or she'd need some kind of wakeup call in the field? Or am I wrong and she'd shield-warrior it up till she goes into labor in a fight against a dragon? (Or worse: Bears.)


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I can't see Cassandra doing it, cus I think she'd value the life (or potential life, in her mind maybe) of her child regardless of circumstances. But I could see a story where the decision is a plot point. And she seriously considers it.
 
And then Varric finds out what's going on and does something stupidly romantic to convince her he's with her no matter what. Or he get's his head out of his butt (if it was jammed up there and that's why she's even being forced TO consider abortion in the first place) and THEN he does something stupidly romantic to convince her he's with her no matter what. Or something. lol I'm getting a bit carried away there.


No, no. Tell me more. Angst with a happy ending? Yes please. :)

In fact, if you could tell me all about it in 1500-3000+ words, that would actually be ideal. :). Not that I'm pressuring you or anything just because I think you'd write an awesome fanfic. (Ok, I totally am. :).) But seriously I would love to read that if you change your mind.

It was character/relationship development btwn Leliana and Cass, world building in general, and flew over most people's heads anyway. You should totally keep it. (Just, you know, my opinion.)


Well, if you're twisting my arm.... :lol: I think I will. Plus, that is easier than changing it...just was surprised someone had an issue with it.
 
 

You guys think Cass would push the issue of being a frontline fighter while she was pregnant? I'd think she's practical enough that, when it gets too hard to move in her armor, she'd consign herself to training recruits or making battleplans, but I dunno. Think she'd see the need to hang back on her own, or she'd need some kind of wakeup call in the field? Or am I wrong and she'd shield-warrior it up till she goes into labor in a fight against a dragon? (Or worse: Bears.)


I know the pregnant warrior woman fighting is kind of a common trope but I've always thought it was a little...bizarre? Hypocritical? I mean, sure, fight if you absolutely are forced into it, but otherwise...if you value your child/baby/fetus/embryo/whatever WHY are you engaging in dangerous activity that could kill/abort said fetus?
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No, no. Tell me more. Angst with a happy ending? Yes please. :)
In fact, if you could tell me all about it in 1500-3000+ words, that would actually be ideal. :). Not that I'm pressuring you or anything just because I think you'd write an awesome fanfic. (Ok, I totally am. :).) But seriously I would love to read that if you change your mind.

Well, if you're twisting my arm.... :lol: I think I will. Plus, that is easier than changing it...just was surprised someone had an issue with it.

I know the pregnant warrior woman fighting is kind of a common trope but I've always thought it was a little...bizarre? Hypocritical? I mean, sure, fight if you absolutely are forced into it, but otherwise...if you value your child/baby/fetus/embryo/whatever WHY are you engaging in dangerous activity that could kill/abort said fetus?

Well, this is more of a bump than anything on the off chance people still want to say anything. But posts that just say "bump" are so annoying, aren't they, so I'll try to contribute something. Fanfic link at the end in case TLDR.

ITA about the pregnant warrior woman fighting thing. It's not cute, it's not awesome, it just shows a reckless disregard of your kid. I mean, I'm totally about choice. But once you make that choice, whatever it is, and assuming you plan to keep the child, I think you have a moral duty to take reasonable precautions. One of those precautions is not engaging in voluntary activities that have a decent chance in resulting in your death.

I don't know. Kind of like alcohol. I support everyone's right to drink like a fish in their own home. But if you get pregnant and choose to keep the kid, I think you have a moral duty to curtail your drinking so your kid doesn't end up with fetal alcohol syndrome.

I just have never got all these pregnant warrior women things and how everyone thinks it's great. Fine, pick up a sword/rifle/phaser if you have to. But if you have a choice, my rule of thumb is, "Would we all think this was great if said heroine had a newborn strapped to her back?" If not, then it's inappropriate.

Given the ubiquitousness and prevalence of the image, however, I'm sure I'm probably inhabiting a pretty lonely island in my disapproval of it. Maybe someone could explain to me why it's cool, because I just don't see it at all.

(Mostly for wistful): There was actually an episode of DS9 where Kira actually does this. She's pregnant, and puts herself in danger to stop a serial killer, and the real kicker was it wasn't even her kid! . So yeah, she stops the bad guy because plot armor, but boy, what a terrible, terrible decision. And everyone was like, "Boy, that Kira is a bad mofo!" And I was like if by bad, you mean criminally stupid, yes. Do you remember this? I might be the only one who didn't like that story for that reason, though.

Changing subjects: anime. The worlds of gaming and anime often intersect, so...wtf is up with anime? My introduction to it was made by a college boyfriend who convinced me to sit down and watch it with him. It was this series (prob. dating myself) called Fushigi Yugi. I think I watched six or so hours of it before I was finally like...no. Why did all the female characters either act like whiny, virginal princesses or, if not, like these (evil) ice queens? What was up with the men dressing as women for no reason? Why all this weird magical crap that has no reasonable explanation but we have to act like it all makes sense? Why is everyone broody? Why are all the protagonists under the age of 20? Why does everyone have these huge, exaggerated eyes? Did I just watch a particularly bad anime, or is this how it all is?

Well, enough of the random stuff. Not much fanfic, but here's a short, cute fic by enigmaticagentscully in which Cassandra disagrees with the ending of one of Varric's stories. http://archiveofouro...g/works/3682572

Eta: Also, Gentleman fic is clicking along on AO3 and Hunter has promised new chapters after the old stuff is done. So yay.
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Well, I can't really see Cassandra as a pregnant warrior in the front line. She seems to be a person that takes responsibility seriously and that would also include taking care of her unborn. I actually don't consider going to war when you're pregnant as sexy, smart or exciting. I think it's pretty stupid, and if not for the unborn child then because a pregnant woman will never be as fast or prepared physically... It's different when you have to defend yourself or the family, I guess. Not sure if Cass would keep a child but probably yes, even if it was from a ONS (because being responsible and all that).

 

Thanks for the link to the fic, rda! :) I can't relate to anime as well... different strokes for different folks, I don't _have_ to watch or read it :).


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