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[Lylliaa]

Hello everybody

 

I've been struggling in the CC with creating dark eyes. I just can't seem to make a dark colour. The few times I'm satisfied with the result I get in CC, it turns out really light once in game. And it starts frustrating me

 

I really like the CC, even though it could be a bit better *cough*more hairstyle, more body shapes, better lighting*cough* but I find the wheel for eye colours seriously messed up. I'm not saying it isn't good, actually it's a really great idea with the inner/outer parts but in my opinion it's really hard to get the colour you exactly want.

 

Is it really impossible to have nearly black eyes or do I just suck completely? What about you? Have you experienced it? Did you succeed?

 

If you have any tips, I'd really appreciate if you could share them

[stop_him]

When I set both the inner and outer iris to black, the eyes are pretty... black. I assume you've tried that though. Sorry I'm not much help.

[Lylliaa]

Thanks for your reply !

And yes I've tried it, what's strange is that the eyes turn out grey and not a dark one; the pupil is clearly visible and I'm still in the CC so in-game they are even lighter.

[Xhaiden]

Is this with an elf character? Elven chars have a certain inherent brightness to their eyes.

[Emerald Rift]

Thanks for your reply !

And yes I've tried it, what's strange is that the eyes turn out grey and not a dark one; the pupil is clearly visible and I'm still in the CC so in-game they are even lighter.

 

 

In the CC colour wheels, the left corner of the bottom corner will be greyish black and the right bottom corner is true black I think if that helps at all. I'm guessing the lighting doesn't help in the CC. 

[Lylliaa]

Thanks for your replies!

 

Is this with an elf character? Elven chars have a certain inherent brightness to their eyes.

It happens with any race, for both gender.

 

In the CC colour wheels, the left corner of the bottom corner will be greyish black and the right bottom corner is true black I think if that helps at all. I'm guessing the lighting doesn't help in the CC. 

When I try dark colour, the right corner is exactly where I go.

 

For example, I wanted my dwarf to have dark greenish eyes. This is what I got in CC

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And this is what I get in-game

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How in the Maker's name does that colour match what I have selected in CC?!!

[stop_him]

Thanks for your replies!

 

It happens with any race, for both gender.

 

When I try dark colour, the right corner is exactly where I go.

 

For example, I wanted my dwarf to have dark greenish eyes. This is what I got in CC

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And this is what I get in-game

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How in the Maker's name does that colour match what I have selected in CC?!!

Eyes will always appear lighter in high light settings. I have dark, dark almost black eyes in real life, but shine a light in them, and they will lighten up. In normal light settings, eyes go back to their original color. Get past the prologue, and you'll see.

[Lylliaa]

Eyes will always appear lighter in high light settings. I have dark, dark almost black eyes in real life, but shine a light in them, and they will lighten up. In normal light settings, eyes go back to their original color. Get past the prologue, and you'll see.

Of course you're right but still, in my opinion there's a huge difference between lighting up the eyes and making them unnaturally light (I'm exaggerating a bit but you get my point ).

 

If I want my Inquisitor to have dark eyes, it's not so they can be like lights on a Christmas tree on some occasions.

[sandalisthemaker]

I have no problems with this. My dwarf's eyes are very dark brown. Just go to the orange color for both inner and outer iris and scroll down to the lower right portion of the orange color spectrum, just a tiny bit above the very bottom. You should get a very dark brown color.

[Emerald Rift]

Of course you're right but still, in my opinion there's a huge difference between lighting up the eyes and making them unnaturally light (I'm exaggerating a bit but you get my point ).

 

If I want my Inquisitor to have dark eyes, it's not so they can be like lights on a Christmas tree on some occasions.

 

My current Inq has red tattoos but most of the time they look pink so the lighting definitely plays a role. It's a shame you can't get the colour you want.

[sandalisthemaker]

Also, the pic you posted is when the Inquisitor is staring up at the Breach, which is very bright. The light from the Breach is reflected off the character's eyes. Under normal lighting your character's eyes should look darker than in that cutscene.

[Xhaiden]

How in the Maker's name does that colour match what I have selected in CC?!!

 

In that scene you are looking up directly at a huge light source in the sky. Its not the best scene to judge by ( Everyone's eyes light up there ). Eyes are naturally partially translucent and spherical after all. Light gets in, bounces about and illuminates them. My eyes are near the same as your dwarves and do pretty much the same thing. They're dark under general light but are green under direct/bright light.

[Lylliaa]

I have no problems with this. My dwarf's eyes are very dark brown. Just go to the orange color for both inner and outer iris and scroll down to the lower right portion of the orange color spectrum, just a tiny bit above the very bottom. You should get a very dark brown color.

Thanks for the tip! I'll try it soon

 

Also, the pic you posted is when the Inquisitor is staring up at the Breach, which is very bright. The light from the Breach is reflected off the character's eyes. Under normal lighting your character's eyes should look darker than in that cutscene.

In that scene you are looking up directly at a huge light source in the sky. Its not the best scene to judge by ( Everyone's eyes light up there ). Eyes are naturally partially translucent and spherical after all. Light gets in, bounces about and illuminates them. My eyes are near the same as your dwarves and do pretty much the same thing. They're dark under general light but are green under direct/bright light.

 

Yes I apologise, my choice of picture wasn't the cleverest >.>
Here's another one where her eyes are indeed darker but still nowhere near the CC representation which makes me sad D:

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[Daennikus]

The iris texture has a weird lighting reflection, even the slightest ambiant light can make the darkest browns go another color. Not anyone's fault, I think the designers tried making dynamic colored irises. Just depends what you want to see most of the time... I think that everything is too shiny and reflective, and that applies to the eyes as well.

[Sabreenei]

It also might work better to make the outer ring as dark as possible, so all the way into the right corner, and then the inner ring just slightly lighter.  It's still not super dark or anything, but it's a little more muted. When I was doing eye color testing, I got this during that light shot:

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Still lighter than a true dark, but a little less vivid. Probably if you play with the placement of the inner iris spot, you could get it darker. I was still wanting it to show a true green for this test.

 

Here's some other quick shots: (Just a default head, with larger eyes to see the color)

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[Catwall]

I have no problems with this. My dwarf's eyes are very dark brown. Just go to the orange color for both inner and outer iris and scroll down to the lower right portion of the orange color spectrum, just a tiny bit above the very bottom. You should get a very dark brown color.

Seconding this advice. I went with a reddish black for the outer irises, but otherwise,

 this is exactly what I did, and my IQ's eyes are straight up brown.

[Daennikus]

It also might work better to make the outer ring as dark as possible, so all the way into the right corner, and then the inner ring just slightly lighter.  It's still not super dark or anything, but it's a little more muted. When I was doing eye color testing, I got this during that light shot:

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Still lighter than a true dark, but a little less vivid. Probably if you play with the placement of the inner iris spot, you could get it darker. I was still wanting it to show a true green for this test.

 

Here's some other quick shots: (Just a default head, with larger eyes to see the color)

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Good character model, too

 

If it helps, choose a color hue that doesn't reflect light or other colors. Green, blue, gray... those tend to go yellow in most environments. But, to some extent all of them seem to mirror the surrounding light. Best be taking screenshots in dark rooms, always.

 

With a hazel type of brown eyes I get all sorts of outdoor colors but rarely brown. A shame.

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Maybe it's just the close-ups though.

[Lylliaa]

 Thanks for all your replies

 

Seconding this advice. I went with a reddish black for the outer irises, but otherwise,

 this is exactly what I did, and my IQ's eyes are straight up brown.

Good character model, too

 

If it helps, choose a color hue that doesn't reflect light or other colors. Green, blue, gray... those tend to go yellow in most environments. But, to some extent all of them seem to mirror the surrounding light. Best be taking screenshots in dark rooms, always.

 

With a hazel type of brown eyes I get all sorts of outdoor colors but rarely brown. A shame.

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Maybe it's just the close-ups though.

It also might work better to make the outer ring as dark as possible, so all the way into the right corner, and then the inner ring just slightly lighter.  It's still not super dark or anything, but it's a little more muted. When I was doing eye color testing, I got this during that light shot:

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Still lighter than a true dark, but a little less vivid. Probably if you play with the placement of the inner iris spot, you could get it darker. I was still wanting it to show a true green for this test.

 

Here's some other quick shots: (Just a default head, with larger eyes to see the color)

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Thanks for the tips! I guess I just suck because I'm pretty sure I tried the orange/red right corner and it didn't come out as I wanted ._. I'll try it again!

I'll also try a darker green than Sabreenei's

[Daennikus]

Good luck! It must suck having to start over your entire game for eye color. Darker eyes give a deeper, more dramatic feel to the character, though. I think it's worth working on it.

[Coralei]

I've noticed it's easier to get a darker color if you start at the right corner black and work upwards and in a smidge instead of working downwards from brighter colors. I'm not sure why, but it feels like every time I try working downwards it'll be a dramatic jump from color to black with nothing in between.

Maybe just me though?

[Daennikus]

I've noticed it's easier to get a darker color if you start at the right corner black and work upwards and in a smidge instead of working downwards from brighter colors. I'm not sure why, but it feels like every time I try working downwards it'll be a dramatic jump from color to black with nothing in between.

Maybe just me though?

 

It's not just you, I see what you mean and I try to leave the cursor against the bottom line.

 

And in the "General tab" I have trouble discerning exactly what I'm looking at when going from not-so-dark towards darker eyes. The problem is also what color segment I'm in (is it gray, brown, blue and green? some other order?) and when I think I found a really dark option, I'm one click away from super bright and then I forgot what I was looking for.

 

[Lylliaa]

Good luck! It must suck having to start over your entire game for eye color. Darker eyes give a deeper, more dramatic feel to the character, though. I think it's worth working on it.

Thank you! And yes it does suck xD I know exactly what you mean. It's a shame dark colours just don't translate the way you want them to in game.

 

 

I've noticed it's easier to get a darker color if you start at the right corner black and work upwards and in a smidge instead of working downwards from brighter colors. I'm not sure why, but it feels like every time I try working downwards it'll be a dramatic jump from color to black with nothing in between.

Maybe just me though?

It's not just you, I see what you mean and I try to leave the cursor against the bottom line.

 

And in the "General tab" I have trouble discerning exactly what I'm looking at when going from not-so-dark towards darker eyes. The problem is also what color segment I'm in (is it gray, brown, blue and green? some other order?) and when I think I found a really dark option, I'm one click away from super bright and then I forgot what I was looking for.

 

 

Definetely not an impression. It doesn't help that sometimes the colours go funny for some reasons and when you tinker a bit, it completely changes the result.