At first I pondered putting this in Origins, but if you pair the two together then they're still together now. I've wondered, does Anora love Alistair? Their joining at the time was a convenience as it benefited both sides but it's struck my curiosity as to how to the two feel about each other at this point.
So about Anora and Alistair..
#1
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 10:43
#2
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 10:53
Well, I haven't seen them together because I never had them married and don't even want to do it in the keep. My take is it would be miserable for both of them. He looks almost exactly like her dead husband which is just disturbing and she neither respects him nor finds him amusing--and all he wants is to be accepted for who he is.
Honestly, unless something has dramatically changed that we haven't been told about, I don't see this being anything other than an uncomfortable business relationship with even more uncomfortable efforts to sire an heir. Yikes. I hope they both have lovers on the side or it would be pretty sad.
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#3
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:02
#4
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:05
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#5
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:07
All she loves is that fancy wooden chair. She didn't seem that broken up when her husband died or found out her own father let him die. So, why would she care about a carbon copy of her dead husband?
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#6
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:09
Well, after ten years they are still king and queen so maybe in the meantime they had a lot of time to know each other. I'm curious if there was any atempt to make an heir since in Origins, there were rumors that she was infertile and we know that the wardens have small chances to have childrens.
#7
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:11
All she loves is that fancy wooden chair. She didn't seem that broken up when her husband died or found out her own father let him die. So, why would she care about a carbon copy of her dead husband?
My Warden married her and she cares about him
#8
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:15
All she loves is that fancy wooden chair. She didn't seem that broken up when her husband died or found out her own father let him die. So, why would she care about a carbon copy of her dead husband?
OK, this is unfair. I may not like Anora, but if Alistair kills her father himself, she won't marry him and she clearly had feelings for Cailen, although they may have been more of the childhood friend type than romantic. She's self-controlled to the point of seeming emotionless, but we see signs that she isn't, although she puts politics ahead of her feelings. Someone who admires her more than I might put it more charitably as she cares more about the country than her feelings, but I wouldn't go that far, myself. In any case, she's an ambitious woman, not a monster.
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#10
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:16
I'm guessing there's probably a cold respect between them (especially if Alistair is hardened, which moves his personality a bit further away from his brother's), but I don't imagine there's anything more then that. Seeing them together in the Mage path proves they can work together: they took turns berating Fiona rather nicely and were completely on the same page. More then that, though, I doubt.
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#11
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:17
Well, after ten years they are still king and queen so maybe in the meantime they had a lot of time to know each other. I'm curious if there was any atempt to make an heir since in Origins, there were rumors that she was infertile and we know that the wardens have small chances to have childrens.
No heirs at all, not even with mistresses, King/Queen Couslands, whatever.
David Gaider: "If Alistair and Anora are married and ruling Ferelden, I’m afraid they do not (yet, at least) have any children. The same is true in versions where they rule separately."
#12
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:20
No heirs at all, not even with mistresses, King/Queen Couslands, whatever.
David Gaider: "If Alistair and Anora are married and ruling Ferelden, I’m afraid they do not (yet, at least) have any children. The same is true in versions where they rule separately."
Alistair can, however have a perfectly normal human heir now, though. Say hello, former OGB. ![]()
Mikka-chan, on 03 Jan 2015 - 4:16 PM, said:
"I'm guessing there's probably a cold respect between them (especially if Alistair is hardened, which moves his personality a bit further away from his brother's), but I don't imagine there's anything more then that. Seeing them together in the Mage path proves they can work together: they took turns berating Fiona rather nicely and were completely on the same page. More then that, though, I doubt."
Yeah, I have no doubt they rule efficiently. Anora would provide the arms length big picture view and Alistair would give their rule the heart that hers allone would lack. Still, I've never felt that was worth doing this to them and particularly to Alistair for whom it goes against everything he wanted in life.
#13
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:22
Her cameo in Awekening is lovely, she calls the Warden "my Prince" with a tenderly voiceYour Warden is in denial after marrying a harpy and probably crying himself to sleep every night.
You can hate Anora all you want, its not going to change anything.
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#14
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:25
I'm reasonably certain that at the end of DA:O, Anora made a comment regarding (hardened) Alistair, along the lines of, "This might not be as bad as I thought." And they seem to be on the same page, from what little we see of them in DA:I. They may have grown on each other over the years, who can say?
(Well, I know who can say, but I doubt that he would.)
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#15
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:29
All she loves is that fancy wooden chair. She didn't seem that broken up when her husband died or found out her own father let him die. So, why would she care about a carbon copy of her dead husband?
Hey now, let's not speak ill of the dead. ![]()
#16
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:30
I doubt they have feelings for each other, but I suppose it's not impossible over time. I think it's grown into more of a relationship of mutual respect. I'm not an Anora fan, but being with your dead husband's brother has to be kind of strange.
#17
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:36
Don't know. They don't really express affection towards each other on the rare occasion that you hear from either of them. They may get off to a rocky start, but they both have respectable characteristics, so they might get along fine.
#18
Posté 03 janvier 2015 - 11:40
Don't know. They don't really express affection towards each other on the rare occasion that you hear from either of them. They may get off to a rocky start, but they both have respectable characteristics, so they might get along fine.
I expect that they've worked out their differences as far as the kingdom is concerned and rule with a certain mutal respect. Personal happiness isn't required for that, just a willingness to try to work together, which I'd expect both have by now, even if it was trying at first.
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#19
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:05
I expect that they've worked out their differences as far as the kingdom is concerned and rule with a certain mutal respect. Personal happiness isn't required for that, just a willingness to try to work together, which I'd expect both have by now, even if it was trying at first.
Yes, there's at least that. DAI shows them at least presenting themselves as working together. Beyond that, who knows. There is potential for the story to be either way.
#20
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:15
I am sure it's entirely possible over the last 10 years or so that they managed to find some common ground and at least like each other, if not love each other. Considering all of the events in Origins, Alistair being Cailan's half-brother, his resemblance to him. Alistair was seen as nothing more than inept. There's no way Anora at that time could feel anything but contempt for him. If Alistair wasn't romanced by a female Warden I think it's the only way he could ever feel something, eventually, for Anora.
I can see her eventually coming around because he can be quite charming. When you get past that aloof and sarcastic armor he wears, he is a good man at his core. And capable of being great.
So I don't think it's entirely impossible that by the time of the Inquisition they love each other.
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#21
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:17
In my canon world, their marriage is a purely business arrangement that works out rather well. My warden in that story is a hetrosexual male elf who is his friend, and Alistair has an Orleasan mistress that he really likes and Anora is ok with.
#22
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:34
Anora probably loves Alistair. Alistair is just as idealistic and childish as Cailan so Anora probably loves exploiting and manipulating him.
#23
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:49
We actually have no idea how their relationship is truth be told but it does look like they were quite the team as rulers if you do the mage path instead of the templar path in DAI. I imagine at the very least they respect each other but I can definitely see them falling in love with each other. I've read some fanfiction that did pretty well on what kind of relationship they could easily have and I think it did both characters justice.
https://www.fanficti...ve-and-Levirate
It even has a sequel about their later years in life as well.
#24
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:55
They've been married ten years, and according to the ending slides, a hardened Alistair pleasantly surprises her and she thinks the union is a good thing.
Maybe it's not love, but it might be respect. They see their duty and they enjoy each other's company. Perhaps that's all that's needed.
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#25
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 01:08
They've been married ten years, and according to the ending slides, a hardened Alistair pleasantly surprises her and she thinks the union is a good thing.
Maybe it's not love, but it might be respect. They see their duty and they enjoy each other's company. Perhaps that's all that's needed.
Ok, while I agree that the kingdom is probably well ruled and they can respect each other enough not to call in the crows secretly or bitchslap each other after meetings, but...'perhaps that's all that's needed'? No. People need more than that. They might not get it, they might cope, even fairly well, but that's not all that's needed.
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