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[Jackal19851111]

I have to admit, Dalish Scout Armor + Headdress of the Duchess looks pretty sweet. The Keeper Robes are also pretty cool.

 

My Qunari has the same look since Haven... *sigh*, oh well

[Juliana]

I have to admit, Dalish Scout Armor + Headdress of the Duchess looks pretty sweet. The Keeper Robes are also pretty cool.

My Qunari has the same look since Haven... *sigh*, oh well

I feel your pain...

To address the OP and the devs:

My BF was really excited to play a male Vashoth Mage and did for a good thirty hours before giving up. He realized he'd be running around in glitched or repetitive armor for 90% of the game and he abandoned his Qunari. I am personally really disappointed in Bioware for neglecting the Qunari's visual options. So many people were excited to play a Qunari, including myself, and so much extra work went into fixing their scaling issues. Though, I do plan on eventually playing a Qunari Reaver because that spec is awesome(ly broken) and I think it fits Qunari really well. They look amazing in heavy armor. Maybe once Reaver is rebalanced and Qunari gear glitches are addressed?

[DarkAmaranth1966]

For me the race doesn't matter but, I can't handle a non mage inquisitor. The anchor is magic and, if you aren't a mage, you're going to freak out about sudden'y having to wield magic. None of that happens. It makes no sense for a non mage to be so at ease with the anchor, only a mage could get his head around it enough not to panic and refuse to even try to use it.

[Heimdall]

I'm still trying to decide whether my Qunari or my elf should be my "main" character. I like my Qunari, but the Solas romance is very appealing even if I don't particularly want to play an elf...

[Farangbaa]

I'm still trying to decide whether my Qunari or my elf should be my "main" character. I like my Qunari, but the Solas romance is very appealing even if I don't particularly want to play an elf...

I'm so interested in Solas and everything about him, that today I've started my very first run in every game I have ever played in which 'I' will romance a man.

And Qunari is worth it just for the fact they are the only characters that bump their head on the light hanging down in the chantry in Haven. I find that hilarious, for some reason.

[ShadowWeaver2012]

I thought of making my female elf mage (if I decide to) one who never really paid that much attention or slowly get absorbed into the whole "Herald of Andraste" thing and that causes her to "forget" who she was.

 

Yep, my female elf Rogue was kind of ditzy actually. Didn't know much about elves, didn't know much about other races, etc etc. So I can accept that she was a loner, but a romance with Solas was difficult because he's so bossy about what your beliefs should be.

[Dalendria]

Honestly I may have to forfeit my intended "main" Qunari character as I found Inquisition's story best suited for an elf, especially a female elf thanks to Solas. Not to mention the back-story as a Vashoth mercenary at the wrong place at the wrong time doesn't seem to compare with the Elven origins where your keeper said what was to happen at the conclave would affect all elves (which is a better origin story)

 

In addition as an elf I'm not restricted to 3 armor sets (seriously, lack of Qunari armors is a pain mid to late game), and my Qunari is a 2hander which is a bugged class thanks to inability to trigger combos. Has anyone played through as a Qunari - and found it just as satisfying as the elven perspective?

Appreciate you posting this.  I have been revisiting my favorite character and playthrough.  Elf hunter first.  Qunari Sword and Board 3rd.  I love the Qunari playthrough mainly because of the great combat experience i had with sword and shield.  i also liked the Josephine romance better than my Elf with Sera.  I do not blame the game.  I always do a blind playthrough first time.  I think I built my archer wrong.  Also, Sera dumped me lol.  And finally, I have the banter bug.  So it was mainly a quiet game for me.  I did not realize until I was almost done with the 1st playthrough.  Since then, I have been doing the workarounds and getting much better party banter experience.

 

I do see your point about Qunari from story perspective.  I still rate my Elf higher.  I was just so much more into the lore as a Dalish Elf trying to reclaim the past.  I wish they had explored more Qunari culture through Iron Bull.  Maybe even a small companion quest that exposed us to the Qun.

[Dalendria]

I'm so interested in Solas and everything about him, that today I've started my very first run in every game I have ever played in which 'I' will romance a man.

And Qunari is worth it just for the fact they are the only characters that bump their head on the light hanging down in the chantry in Haven. I find that hilarious, for some reason.

Lol.  I laughed when this happened to my Qunari.  I also was impressed at the game design.  They could have avoided it.  The more I play the more I see how much we impact the environment (breaking through things, bumping things, etc)

[Juliana]

For those who might be tempted to roll a Dalish for their next playthrough... The one consistent 'issue' I had with the immersion/role playing aspect is the lack of an option for an Irish accent voiceover... I mean, there are plenty of ways to explain this away in head canon, but still... I just felt so out of place when talking to the Dalish NPCs... Even Solas has a mild brogue.

[Retro-bit]

I started Qunari main but felt like mixing it up a little, I had to re-make my secondry mess about elf character because it was so perfect

I don't see why Mage elf would be better than my rouge though......

 

 

For those who might be tempted to roll a Dalish for their next playthrough... The one consistent 'issue' I had with the immersion/role playing aspect is the lack of an option for an Irish accent voiceover... I mean, there are plenty of ways to explain this away in head canon, but still... I just felt so out of place when talking to the Dalish NPCs... Even Solas has a mild brogue.

I second this since I felt the same but that's a soft Welsh accent you're hearing on Solas

[Petrikles]

Just finished the elf female mage. Funny thing is, when I started the game, I firmly believed that an elf would not fit because of the apparent firm root in human religion. I was also vocal about this in this forum.

 

Boy, was I wrong. This game is more about elven than any game I have ever played before.

 

I am immensively satisfied and totally in awe. For me, Dragon Age can stand now eye to eye with Baldur´s Gate.

 

My only gripe: The "gameish" game mechanics. I would have preferred a more "realistic" approach. E.g. realistic loot like in Skyrim, an inventory grid where you have limited space and need to make up your mind what to take with you. And none of this ridiculous random loot (Orlesian battle armor in a chest in the temple of Mythal? Come on!).

[SurelyForth]

My issue with the Dalish Inquisitor is that DAI goes out of its way to **** on the Dalish. Their history is a lie, elves caused their own downfall, their clan can be completely wiped out, Red Crossing was mostly their fault, and their markings are slave markings. I mean, the game my have a lot of elf-related stuff, but the Dalish are barely functional in situations where they should be leading the conversation. Vivienne blindsides you with the fact that Dalish clans throw away spare mages, Morrigan knows more than you do about pretty much everything elven, and the two elves you get to spend time with are the Princess of Internalized Racism and the King of Elves Yes But Not Necessarily Your Kind of Elf. Lavallan can't even avoid it in their own special, hand-crafted romance- first in conversations about the Dalish, then in their inability to even bring up the possibility that Solas isn't what he seems, and, most egregiously, when Solas decides that being honest about himself is way less important than Lavellan knowing exactly how ****ing wrong the Dalish are about everything. Again. Some more.

 

I liked roleplaying as a Dalish Inquisitor doing Inquisitorial things while struggling with people's misconceptions of her. However, I didn't like feeling like a complete tool who knows literally nothing about who they are really. 

[Arisugawa]

Honestly I may have to forfeit my intended "main" Qunari character as I found Inquisition's story best suited for an elf, especially a female elf thanks to Solas. Not to mention the back-story as a Vashoth mercenary at the wrong place at the wrong time doesn't seem to compare with the Elven origins where your keeper said what was to happen at the conclave would affect all elves (which is a better origin story)

 

In addition as an elf I'm not restricted to 3 armor sets (seriously, lack of Qunari armors is a pain mid to late game), and my Qunari is a 2hander which is a bugged class thanks to inability to trigger combos. Has anyone played through as a Qunari - and found it just as satisfying as the elven perspective?

 

For the most part, I agree with this.

[draken-heart]

I liked roleplaying as a Dalish Inquisitor doing Inquisitorial things while struggling with people's misconceptions of her. However, I didn't like feeling like a complete tool who knows literally nothing about who they are really.

To be honest, the Dalish inquisitor does not know anything about the truth of the elves, only what they were told, and Sera laughs at things about the Dalish because "wrong" is what they Dalish people

[Drasanil]

My issue with the Dalish Inquisitor is that DAI goes out of its way to **** on the Dalish. Their history is a lie, elves caused their own downfall, their clan can be completely wiped out, Red Crossing was mostly their fault, and their markings are slave markings. I mean, the game my have a lot of elf-related stuff, but the Dalish are barely functional in situations where they should be leading the conversation. . 

 

1) Given how 'awesome' the old elven empire was, it always seemed kind of weird that Tevinter just randomly showed up and conquered them with magic, while never actually being better at magic even with a further 1000 years to develop their magical expertise. Elves causing their own collapse works and it makes sense. Better yet it means they were the architects of their own fates as opposed to just helpless victims.

 

2) Their history is not necessarily 'lie', rather poorly remembered truth shaped by the context in which they lived. The centuries of slavery in Tevinter basically erased whatever concrete history they had. What they know now as their 'history' was always guess work and half-truths from the start. Expecting anything resembling historical accuracy in the first place was silly. Frankly that they even got as much as they did in the ball bark is an accomplishment in and of itself.

 

3) Red crossing being 'their fault' is kind of a stretch. A handful of elven knights fucked up and then covered it up. The Dales as a whole had no idea what happened and were largely innocent. That it didn't stop things from escalating doesn't make them collectively guilty for something they had no knowledge of or participation in.

 

4) Their markings, what ever the origin in Arlathan, were clearly repurposed long after. That they had served as slave markings before the elves were enslaved by Tevinter completely misses the point of why they were later repurposed. Their original meaning is frankly all but irrelevant to anyone save a handful of people, like Solas and Corypheus. 

 

5) The Dalish were right about one thing, the 'big' one, the ancient elves were immortal. And having been on the BSN from the start, that was always the real debate. Since day one the naysayers were always there saying it was either a bunch of bull-pucky or teh ebul bloodmagic, So at least DAI finally put that to rest. 

 

6) Finally, if you managed to get the Clan Lavellan wiped out, that's kind of your own fault, the 'right' choices were always fairly evident. Especially for the latter missions where they're basically giving you answer to the mission. 

 

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I'm generally an elf fan, and I always liked the elves in DA, but damn watching some of the other peoples' reactions is kind of cringe-worthy. It's like Bioware ranover their dog and kicked them in the dangly bits when they tried to save it. What exactly where you expecting? For the Dalish to be declared 100% correct and universally recognised as the perfect victims of innocence who receive a UN mandate decreeing they all get a big hug and reparations?

[themageguy]

An Elven character works well but so does a human mage. Your from the circle and because of your noble background you were sent to the concave. Rather than it just being coincidental that you were there, you actually had a role in the peace talks. It made me feel like my character fit the story quite a bit better. Not to mention it made sense for my human mage to ally with the mages and push for mage freedom, he knew what it was like to be in a circle. Though I do appriate how you were give the option to roleplay a circle mage with Vivenne point of view.

Pro circle mage allying with Templars has been one of the most rewarding dragon age playthroughs I've ever done.

I really recommend people try this sort of character out.

[SurelyForth]

 

I'm generally an elf fan, and I always liked the elves in DA, but damn watching some of the other peoples' reactions is kind of cringe-worthy. It's like Bioware ranover their dog and kicked them in the dangly bits when they tried to save it. What exactly where you expecting? For the Dalish to be declared 100% correct and universally recognised as the perfect victims of innocence who receive a UN mandate decreeing they all get a big hug and reparations?

 

Or perhaps I was hoping that, given they chose the Dalish origin over the City Elf origin, they'd do something really awesome and different with them. In Origins, we had a situation where an elf was responsible for the suffering of its clan that could result in annihilation of said clan. In DA2, we had two elves who were responsible for the suffering of their clan (Merrill and Marethari share blame, although I tend to be on Team Merrill given that nothing bad happens to her that doesn't stem from Marethari's own choices) and that clan can be annihilated. In The Masked Empire, we had a clan that summoned a dangerous spirit and was slaughtered for...being in the way of the Empress and her entourage, and it was revealed that the elves of Arlathan had slaves (because heaven forbid the modern elves think they had any right to a smidgen of moral superiority).

 

So I think I expected that they'd do something besides double down on screwing over the Dalish specifically. They could have changed one of the things I listed and it would have felt better- if Lavellan had been able to better hold her own against Vivienne when talking about Dalish mages or in the Temple of Mythal. If clan Lavellan had no fail state. Even if it is "easy" to avoid, and I don't think it is as intuitive as you claim, why do they have to die? Can you kill off Cadash's carta or Adaar's mercenary group or the Trevelyans? Why is the the Dalish clan that gets wiped out again? And why doesn't it seem to matter to anyone when it happens?

 

I would also not mind if they got rid of the vallaslin thing completely because it essentially exploits an intrinsic part of Dalish culture for romantic angst and it just feels gross all around. Having Solas offer something that would actually help the Dalish instead would have been pretty super awesome. 

[willnz]

To be fair, the way in which the annihilation of your clan is implemented is just plain awful. If they are going to pull a 'your actions caused the death of your entire family and everyone you have known' card in the game, it has to have some sort of impact.

 

I (as a player) don't mind the idea clan being destroyed due to my actions as i feel it could add to the development of my character, the problem lies in the fact that my character (or anyone else for that matter) literally (as in, literally literally) do not bat an eyelid towards what is an unbelievably significant event in the inquisitors life. If you are going to put something like that in the game, you simply have to do it right, which they didn't.

 

That out the way, well-drinking femelf with Solas Romance is definitely my canon play through, seems to provide the most interesting world state at the end. You just have to head-canon your characters near total lack of knowledge on elven things and potential despair at the loss of her clan... 

[CENIC]

I would also not mind if they got rid of the vallaslin thing completely because it essentially exploits an intrinsic part of Dalish culture for romantic angst and it just feels gross all around. Having Solas offer something that would actually help the Dalish instead would have been pretty super awesome.

I thought it was pretty significant that Lavellan could refuse to remove the vallaslin on the grounds that their meaning has changed. She can also tell Solas that she wants to improve the world rather than just putting it back as it was, and while at first he lashes out (because he's projecting) in the end he's pleased with her response.

[Petrikles]

I thought it was pretty significant that Lavellan could refuse to remove the vallaslin on the grounds that their meaning has changed. She can also tell Solas that she wants to improve the world rather than just putting it back as it was, and while at first he lashes out (because he's projecting) in the end he's pleased with her response.

 Yes, this. I did exactly those responses. To add, the dialogue with Mythal is also very enlightening. My Lavellan first greeted her respectfully, but then also asked the critical question "where have you been". The answer was cryptic (of course); the old ways cannot be reinstalled, trust me child, you do not want to know. And a commendment from Mythal, bright child you are.

 

In my imagination, there are still great things to come, a way forward, the uncovering of the true (hi)story and realisation of things wrong, and moving into a bright and different future. DAI was fully in this mood, hindered by a particular annoying villain from that past, and this is the reasion why I enjoyed this game so fully, despite the overly-gameish mechanics and still a lot of bugs.

 

To come back to the vallaslin, even though I completed the game, I still think and struggle with myself over two decisions: drink from the well of sorrows and removing the vallaslin. Both decisions have a lot of implications on the future and both have their merits and disadvantages especially for an elven inquisitor. My "white paladin" approach was to not drink and remove wrong symbols (principle of independence, going into future principally "unchained"). My "grey paladin" approach was opposite, more "practical" in the sense of political opportunism (direct access to arcane knowledge, remain in Dalish tradition in order to not alienate them and make unification probably easier).

[Retro-bit]

So....... After all the talk about a Mage play through I remade my elf (again -.-) as a mage and fem mage elf is starting to overshadow my scout. The dialogue changes are subtle but diffrent enough that I must play it! Such a shame the light armours are dorky

[Farangbaa]

So....... After all the talk about a Mage play through I remade my elf (again -.-) as a mage and fem mage elf is starting to overshadow my scout. The dialogue changes are subtle but diffrent enough that I must play it! Such a shame the light armours are dorky

Should've preordered the game

Then you get light armors like this:

[Retro-bit]

Should've preordered the game

Then you get light armors like this:

I have it! Still dorky imo. My elf looks good in long coats and dual daggers. The transition is hard but I shall persist.

I think I'm even tempted to record for a movie version   

[Kreidian]

Interestingly I found it to be quite the opposite. I am absolutely in love with my Qunari rogue and have been enjoying the story of it far beyond what I did with my elf mage run.

 

I think the problem, in part, is best expressed by Sera; the bits just come off as "Too Elfy". It's not about racism, something which people often mistake Sera's comments for. It's that people are so overly focused on things that happened thousands of years ago when they should be paying attention to the here and now. The people of ALL races that are fighting and dying for the Inquisition are more important then the crazy elfy bits of ancient history that don't do modern elves much use anymore.

 

Not to say that history isn't important, but it had a tendency to overshadow the rest of the game with a Dalish Inquisitor.

 

As a Qunari Inquisitor, however, you bring an entirely different perspective, both literally and figuratively. You are there as an outsider to ALL of the factions in the game. Hell as Tal-Vashoth, even the Qunari see you as an outsider. More so then any other origin, you come in as a black slate, without some prior connection to all the various factions and politics that are tearing the world apart when the game starts. As a player I felt more agency and impact in the story playing a Qunari like this, my knowledge or lack there of was more reasonable and meaningful.

 

Plus, Female Qunari are just damn awesome to play with! ( And I love that they're so tall, it's just so much fun towering over everyone as a rogue. )