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[HeroxMatt]

Could a Tranquil have the Anchor and use it to any effect?

[Exalus]

Considering my dwarf can even though he cant dream, cant ever cast magic and has connection to the fade  ? I dont see why not.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Having the anchor means being touched by the Fade, which would cure them of being Tranquil. 

[LightningPoodle]

That would be quite cool. Being a tranquil turned "normal" Inquisitor and then realising you have the capacity for emotion and possibly magic. You see the world in a different light and this gets conveyed through dialogue. Would be interesting, at least for me anyway.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That would be quite cool. Being a tranquil turned "normal" Inquisitor and then realising you have the capacity for emotion and possibly magic. You see the world in a different light and this gets conveyed through dialogue. Would be interesting, at least for me anyway.

That would be interesting. Maybe in a future game we'll have a companion who was a Tranquil but de-Tranquilized. They'd be able to explain both sides since they have experienced both. 

[HeroxMatt]

That would be quite cool. Being a tranquil turned "normal" Inquisitor and then realising you have the capacity for emotion and possibly magic. You see the world in a different light and this gets conveyed through dialogue. Would be interesting, at least for me anyway.

 

 

That would be interesting. Maybe in a future game we'll have a companion who was a Tranquil but de-Tranquilized. They'd be able to explain both sides since they have experienced both. 

 

This is why I was thinking about it. Thought it would make for a great role-play and many dialogue/story options. 

 

It would have thrown Cass for a loop haha

[LightningPoodle]

That would be interesting. Maybe in a future game we'll have a companion who was a Tranquil but de-Tranquilized. They'd be able to explain both sides since they have experienced both. 

 

Companion sounds like a better option, simply because the PC would have control over what is said. A de-tranquil companion could provide insight with many different situations like any other companion. I'm thinking a mix between Solas and Cole.

[Lulupab]

A de-tranquil mage would be stronger than ever before, because his connection to the fade cannot be severed anymore so spell-blocking effects wouldn't work on him. This is also why the seekers don't need Lyrium for their Templar abilities. The touch of spirit has scarred them, somewhat like the anchor but weaker. So they have innate magic and don't need Lyrium. In mage's case they can cast spells even when something is blocking their connection to the fade, like a Templar dispel or disrupt.

[errantknight]

You'd remember and feel entirelly as you did prior to becomong tranquil, if Ander's friend was any indication.

[errantknight]

A de-tranquil mage would be stronger than ever before, because his connection to the fade cannot be severed anymore so spell-blocking effects wouldn't work on him. This is also why the seekers don't need Lyrium for their Templar abilities. The touch of spirit has scarred them, somewhat like the anchor but weaker. So they have innate magic and don't need Lyrium. In mage's case they can cast spells even when something is blocking their connection to the fade, like a Templar dispel or disrupt.

Hmm...this means that templars could be trained without lyrium, too. And maybe the reason that Alistair could do templar things without lyrium is in there, too, allthough I don't know how that could have happened.

[Lulupab]

Hmm...this means that templars could be trained without lyrium, too. And maybe the reason that Alistair could do templar things without lyrium is in there, too, allthough I don't know how that could have happened.

 

Seekers train for years to ready themselves for this process and not everyone can go through with it. Becoming a tranquil and reversing it might cause dementia. So only a select few can do that.

 

The devs retconned Alistair, in the comics he doesn't have a single Templar ability. He never started taking Lyrium and he never did later. So he never had Templar abilities to begin with, it was a gameplay aspect of DAO.

[errantknight]

Seekers train for years to ready themselves for this process and not everyone can go through with it. Becoming a tranquil and reversing it might cause dementia. So only a select few can do that.

 

The devs retconned Alistair, in the comics he doesn't have a single Templar ability. He never started taking Lyrium and he never did later. So he never had Templar abilities to begin with, it was a gameplay aspect of DAO.

Welll, I can accept the leliana thing because they gave a credible reason for it within the game mythology and I suspect it's something other that what she thinks it was--say, and elevn god.

 

Alistair talks about training in his abilities, outright says he never felt the need for lyrium in origins in using them, so if they plan on continuing that in the games, I'm going to have a problem with it. The comics aren't actually canon, for a host of reasons, although they may contain canon elements, so that's ok for comics (although super annoying), but outright ignoring something that big in game... nuh uh.

 

They'd have to come up with a reason to explain it which would have to include Alistair lying through his teeth and the warden being blind and stupid. He teaches the warden to be a templar, for god's sake! It's too big a retconn. Completely unacceptable and I'm more forgiving than most about stuff like that.

[Raiil]

Welll, I can accept the leliana thing because they gave a credible reason for it within the game mythology and I suspect it's something other that what she thinks it was--say, and elevn god.

 

Alistair talks about training in his abilities, outright says he never felt the need for lyrium in origins in using them, so if they plan on continuing that in the games, I'm going to have a problem with it. The comics aren't actually canon, for a host of reasons, although they may contain canon elements, so that's ok for comics (although super annoying), but outright ignoring something that big in game... nuh uh.

 

They'd have to come up with a reason to explain it which would have to include Alistair lying through his teeth and the warden being blind and stupid. He teaches the warden to be a templar, for god's sake! It's too big a retconn. Completely unacceptable and I'm more forgiving than most about stuff like that.

I sorta mentally handwaved it as being like, his mother was magical and that carried side effects. >.>

[alwaysquestions]

I'd love a de-tranquilized companion. I feel you could make an amazing character.

[Obvious_Shining]

His voice will be so monotone, Cory will get bored to death. Prisoners be like..."Please, just shut up and kill me already"

[Luckyanna]

A de-tranquilised companion would make a great addition to the game. Maybe de-tranquilising them using the knowledge from Cass's book could be their recruitment quest.

[Moirnelithe]

Welll, I can accept the leliana thing because they gave a credible reason for it within the game mythology and I suspect it's something other that what she thinks it was--say, and elevn god.

 

Alistair talks about training in his abilities, outright says he never felt the need for lyrium in origins in using them, so if they plan on continuing that in the games, I'm going to have a problem with it. The comics aren't actually canon, for a host of reasons, although they may contain canon elements, so that's ok for comics (although super annoying), but outright ignoring something that big in game... nuh uh.

 

They'd have to come up with a reason to explain it which would have to include Alistair lying through his teeth and the warden being blind and stupid. He teaches the warden to be a templar, for god's sake! It's too big a retconn. Completely unacceptable and I'm more forgiving than most about stuff like that.

 

I think in Leliana's case she has bonded with a faith spirit but doesn't realize it. She is one of the strongest believers in the Maker so a spirit of faith would be attracted to her. And the DA lore says that nothing can revive people from the dead except for spirits. Whether you killed Leliana in DA:O or not she could have bonded with one either way so there wouldn't be a need to ret-con anything.

[errantknight]

That's an excellent thought! That would make sense.

[Kinsz]

We already have a de tranquilised companion , her name is Cassandra.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

That would be quite cool. Being a tranquil turned "normal" Inquisitor and then realising you have the capacity for emotion and possibly magic. You see the world in a different light and this gets conveyed through dialogue. Would be interesting, at least for me anyway.

 

Woah that's actually a really great idea. So much RP options too.

[errantknight]

We already have a de tranquilised companion , her name is Cassandra.

What does this even mean?

[Lulupab]

We already have a de tranquilised companion , her name is Cassandra.

 

Its not really same as a mage who has been a tranquol against their will. Cassandra thinks she was very focused and was able to get rid of her emotions while in fact she was a tranquil

 

 

What does this even mean?

 

Seeker training includes becoming a tranquil for a short period then reversing it by making a spirit of the faith touching the seeker's mind. This forever scars their soul, they will be cured of tranquility and become fully immune to tranquility and possession. This scar is also like Inquisitor's anchor albeit much weaker which gives none-mages limited magical power, same as when they take Lyrium. Therefor seekers can have Templar abilities without Lyrium.

[o Ventus]

Having the anchor means being touched by the Fade, which would cure them of being Tranquil. 

As far as we know, that only works with certain spirits. Specifically spirits of faith, which are supposed to be exceedingly rare.

 

If it was as simple as "touched by the Fade", then Tranquil wouldn't be allowed to be anywhere near mages when they cast spells.

[Lulupab]

As far as we know, that only works with certain spirits. Specifically spirits of faith, which are supposed to be exceedingly rare.

 

If it was as simple as "touched by the Fade", then Tranquil wouldn't be allowed to be anywhere near mages when they cast spells.

 

Pharamond's mind, who was the first mage to be ever cured of tranquility, was touched by a desire demon. So yes, any fade creature will do. The chantry uses spirits of faith because they are known to be the safest and friendliest spirits known to mankind.

 

The tranquil are invisible to fade entities and must be guided to find them, since they have no connection to the fade, they cannot be seen by fade entities.

[Teshayel]

Seekers train for years to ready themselves for this process and not everyone can go through with it. Becoming a tranquil and reversing it might cause dementia. So only a select few can do that.

 

The devs retconned Alistair, in the comics he doesn't have a single Templar ability. He never started taking Lyrium and he never did later. So he never had Templar abilities to begin with, it was a gameplay aspect of DAO.

 

Wait, now I am confused... There was a thread that spoke of Alistair being retconned by Gaider. Something on the lines that Ali started taking lyrium again. So, what's the status? Is Ali an addict or no?