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A better villain for Dragon Age: Inquisition


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 Cory was unimpressive overall but the post-credits reveal with Solas -- signifying that Cory was a mere pawn in the grand scheme of things -- made up a bit for the weak villain plot, in my eyes.

 

Hmm. Good point. I'll just consider Corypheus's diminishing status throughout the game as foreshadowing for this then.



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Me too. But then he had to slam into the eluvian like a child, and that's when he started looking pathetic to me.


I thought that was a good touch, and intentional. He starts off as this insanely powerful megalomaniac, with a fanatical Tevinter cult, Red Templars, a demon army, political assassins, and generals up the wazoo. He also has an insanly powerful elven orb, the Blight, a tainted dragon, and more. You also saw the hideously bad future where the very fabric of the world is torn asunder if he succeeds.

But the more you peel back his allies and plans, the more you discover that behind all that power and bravado, he's just an angry, petulant child lashing out at the world and the heavens because of his own disappointment. Solas even says as much if you ask him about Corypheus right before the final battle. (You've twarted all of his plans and now, like a petulant child, he'd rather smash the board than lose.)

I think Corypheus is a good villain, just a tad under-utilized. I would have liked to have seen one or two more scenes exploring WHY he is doing what he is doing rather than just focusing on stopping him, and possibly tying it into how the PC and companions might be going through (though that's hard since the PC comes from many different backgrounds and can have varying beliefs about anything). This would make him more complex and interesting.

As he is though? I think he's a solid villain for this game.


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Me too. But then he had to slam into the eluvian like a child, and that's when he started looking pathetic to me.

Every time he starts flying towards me I lose it. He's like a muppet or something sailing across the room and then bam, right into the mirror. I can't stop laughing.



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Corypheus isn't actually a villain at all, is he? He's more like a parody of villains.

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Corypheus isn't actually a villain at all, is he? He's more like a parody of villains.


No he's a villain.

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No he's a villain.


Well, that was blunt.

He is a walking amalgamation of tired cliches, though.
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Corypheus was a pawn and nothing more.

 

Corypheus propped up the Andrastian faith as a bastion of hope and goodwill, while furthering yet foiling Solas' agenda.

 

He was cool and had a badass swagger about him but to call him a villain when you compare him to the likes of an Origins Howe or Loghain is preposterous.



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Well, that was blunt.

He is a walking amalgamation of tired cliches, though.


That may be, i just think the BSN in general needs to stop denying what things are instead of saying "this thing is not good". Like multitude of people saying Inquisition is not an RPG, which is ridiculous and what they mean to say is that it's not a good rpg. Likewise (in a weird way) Corypheus may not be a good villain , but he is a villain :P

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Corypheus would have been fine. He could have been a good villain. As is, they could have replaced him with any Tevinter mage and it would have played out almost identically and some of us would be saying... you know who should have been the villain? Corypheus.

 

The problem with the villain is not that it is specifically Corypheus, I think. The problem is that Corypheus himself could be interesting, but the conflict is not.



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That may be, i just think the BSN in general needs to stop denying what things are instead of saying "this thing is not good". Like multitude of people saying Inquisition is not an RPG, which is ridiculous and what they mean to say is that it's not a good rpg. Likewise (in a weird way) Corypheus may not be a good villain , but he is a villain :P


Oh, yeah. I wasn't seriously saying he wasn't a villain - I was just implying that he wasn't a very good one! Everything that comes out of his mouth feels like it should be in a Dragon Age parody rather than an actual Dragon Age game - when he even does appear, which is like three times! Poor Cory... I actually feel a little sorry for him now...
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Oh, yeah. I wasn't seriously saying he wasn't a villain - I was just implying that he wasn't a very good one! Everything that comes out of his mouth feels like it should be in a Dragon Age parody rather than an actual Dragon Age game - when he even does appear, which is like three times! Poor Cory... I actually feel a little sorry for him now...


Yeah I realized you were joking, which is why I was so blunt, I was half-kidding as well :P

Also as much as I love his new voice actor, it would have been really cool if he kept the old one
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I think my Inquisitor is a pretty good villain.



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Yeah I realized you were joking, which is why I was so blunt, I was half-kidding as well :P

Also as much as I love his new voice actor, it would have been really cool if he kept the old one

Yeah, I think his previous voice actor got the 'aging Tevinter magister' bit right. He's also slightly creepy... this new actor just makes him sound like Every World-Threatening Villain Ever. Which would have been fine if his dialogue was better! :P

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I think my Inquisitor is a pretty good villain.

 

Headcanon or ingame?



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I thought that was a good touch, and intentional. He starts off as this insanely powerful megalomaniac, with a fanatical Tevinter cult, Red Templars, a demon army, political assassins, and generals up the wazoo. He also has an insanly powerful elven orb, the Blight, a tainted dragon, and more. You also saw the hideously bad future where the very fabric of the world is torn asunder if he succeeds.

But the more you peel back his allies and plans, the more you discover that behind all that power and bravado, he's just an angry, petulant child lashing out at the world and the heavens because of his own disappointment. Solas even says as much if you ask him about Corypheus right before the final battle. (You've twarted all of his plans and now, like a petulant child, he'd rather smash the board than lose.)

I think Corypheus is a good villain, just a tad under-utilized. I would have liked to have seen one or two more scenes exploring WHY he is doing what he is doing rather than just focusing on stopping him, and possibly tying it into how the PC and companions might be going through (though that's hard since the PC comes from many different backgrounds and can have varying beliefs about anything). This would make him more complex and interesting.

As he is though? I think he's a solid villain for this game.

 

See, that's the thing, he sounds so good concept-wise. But gameplay-wise, I get to the final mission and I think, what, this is it?



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What,

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is not an EXTREMELY well written villain?

 

He is really in the Gray Area!!! That's among the best "Villain" on the whole DA series! I put him on the same level to Meredith & Loghain.

 

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