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[Chernaya]

this thread:

 

[Andraste_Reborn]

[Ryzaki]

This thread has to be giving some mod the lulz.

 

That's the only reason it's still open.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

That would be the definition of inclusiveness, to accept the presence of things that are not there for you because somebody else might enjoy them.

 

Also having read lots of your posts, I think the reason you elicit so much negative attention is that you often frame your opinions in a very antagonizing way. For example you don't think people who enjoy casual sex are different, you think they're wrong. And nobody likes being judged, you included judging by your many posts calling people out for judging you.

Well, considering how Bioware has been doing everything I wouldn't call them inclusive either by your definition. Inclusive to some, yes that is without question. But they make others into laughing stocks. So I'm going to voice what I don't like just like everyone else does.  

 

Yo fam... Just because he has casual sex with them, it does not mean there are being manipulated into sex. They could both want it, I mean throughout the game you hear characters lust over him. It's like Isabella but with a libido of committed man who just got out of prison

Did I ever say he manipulated them? I've said many times how it was a two way agreement, otherwise it would be rape. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

Corypheus wakes up after thousands of years and sings a rendition of "What's THIS?!"

Nah, Corypheus' song would be basically this: 

[AshesEleven]

Nah, Corypheus' song would be basically this:

Well you've reminded me that exists, so thank you very much!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well you've reminded me that exists, so thank you very much!

You're welcome. 

[Ynqve]

 

 

Well, considering how Bioware has been doing everything I wouldn't call them inclusive either by your definition. Inclusive to some, yes that is without question. But they make others into laughing stocks. So I'm going to voice what I don't like just like everyone else does.  

 

 

Ehm, how have they not been inclusive of people with your views on sex and marriage? Josephine, Blackwall and Solas are all romancable without sex scenes and can be interpreted as chaste. And when it comes to other people: Well that's life isn't it. You can't stop other people from having casual sex irl, and you can't stop fictional characters from sleeping with each other either. And how have you been made into a laughing stock by Bioware? Please explain, because I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Well, considering how Bioware has been doing everything I wouldn't call them inclusive either by your definition. Inclusive to some, yes that is without question. But they make others into laughing stocks.

 

Who have they made into laughing stocks, exactly? Snooty Orlesians who are obsessed with fancy hats? Those are the only people I can think of who were consistently mocked in Inquisition.

 

Josephine, Blackwall and Solas are all romancable without sex scenes and can be interpreted as chaste.

 

I think it's possible to complete the Dorian romance without the sex scene, as well, although someone else would need to confirm that. There was no way I was going to miss out on that glorious arse.

[CrimsonN7]

I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this thread with great respect!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

There was no way I was going to miss out on that glorious arse.

 

What's another word for pirate treasure?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this thread with great respect!

 

CRIMMEH

 

[Chernaya]

I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this thread with great respect!

 

Oh man, you win the thread.  There's been a lot of good posts in here... but this one's a winner.

[CrimsonN7]

Sup Jer, also I'm late with this gif 

 

 

but completely ignore that gif, this thread has been a glorious read.

[Catwall]

I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this thread with great respect!

Oh god, my ugly snort-laughing cannot be stopped.

[Hair Serious Business]

When people keep mixing pansexual with bisexual...

Spoiler

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Ehm, how have they not been inclusive of people with your views on sex and marriage? Josephine, Blackwall and Solas are all romancable without sex scenes and can be interpreted as chaste. And when it comes to other people: Well that's life isn't it. You can't stop other people from having casual sex irl, and you can't stop fictional characters from sleeping with each other either. And how have you been made into a laughing stock by Bioware? Please explain, because I have no idea what you're talking about.

Alright, let's discuss marriage. Besides the fact there are zero options for it in the game for it thus already not inclusive since it is not included, literally every time the player brings it up, the game openly mocks you for bringing it up. When asking Vivienne about whether she was married, she calls that absurd. When asking Sera about it, she spits her drink in your face and calls you a loony. When you bring it up with The Iron Bull, they make it so the Inquisitor was doing it to tease The Iron Bull. Bioware edited the game so that Varric calling an Inquisitor who romanced Cullen as Mrs. Rutherford no longer happens, literally retconning it out of the game. Practically every example ends badly, yet most casual sex example ends fine. Etc, etc. Yeah, they are clearly being inclusive with that mindset and totally not showing preference of one over the other or making it a punchline of a joke.

And that's just inside the games. Outside the games, it is a different beast entirely. 

[Steelcan]

I think you are reading too deeply into this

[Johnsen1972]

Iron Bull is just a cool and tolerant guy. He is the Garrus of the DA Universe. A very likeable character.

[CrimsonN7]

Iron Bull is just a cool and tolerant guy. He is the Garrus of the DA Universe. A very likeable character.

 

Indeed and like Garrus I have no desire to smex him. #Useless facts.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Why am i not surprised seeing whose whining saying "sex before marriage" is wrong just because there's no marriage in game doesn't mean theres some evil conspiracy happening, sounds more like paranoia

[Ynqve]

Alright, let's discuss marriage. Besides the fact there are zero options for it in the game for it thus already not inclusive since it is not included, literally every time the player brings it up, the game openly mocks you for bringing it up. When asking Vivienne about whether she was married, she calls that absurd. When asking Sera about it, she spits her drink in your face and calls you a loony. When you bring it up with The Iron Bull, they make it so the Inquisitor was doing it to tease The Iron Bull. Bioware edited the game so that Varric calling an Inquisitor who romanced Cullen as Mrs. Rutherford no longer happens, literally retconning it out of the game. Practically every example ends badly, yet most casual sex example ends fine. Etc, etc. Yeah, they are clearly being inclusive with that mindset and totally not showing preference of one over the other or making it a punchline of a joke.

And that's just inside the games. Outside the games, it is a different beast entirely. 

 

Sera is the last of the companions that I could ever see wanting to get married. Of course she'll have a strong reaction. And of course it's an absurd thought that Vivienne as a circle mage would be married to a duke, he would lose his position within the Orlesian nobility if he married a mage. That's what happened to Leandra Hawke, she had to elope and lose her family in order to marry Malcolm. The difference is that Leandra was willing to pay that price, Bastien and Vivienne are not. 

 

But then we have characters like Josephine and Blackwall who wants to settle down with your Inquisitor. And I'm pretty sure that both Cass and Cullen would want that as well. And Merrill/Hawke, Anders/Hawke, Warden Alistair/HoF and Morrigan/HoF are super easy to at least headcanon as married. Morrigan outright calls a romanced warden her husband in Inquisiton. King Alistair/Fem Cousland and Anora/Male Cousland can get married. 

 

If we look at NPC/NPC we have the Hawkes, Aveline/Donnic, Oghren/Felsi, Eamon/Isolde, the Couslands, Nathaniel's sister and her husband, Mae/Varric's cousin. All are examples of more or less happy marriages. Inquisition is a bit harder, but that's because the game doesn't focus on families and close associates in the same way that the other two games did. We don't really get to meet our companions families like we did in the earlier games. 

 

The only marriages that I can think of that actually ended in disaster were Oghren/Branka and Bella and her first husband, or maybe if you want to stretch it there's Bianca/whatshisface. And all of them were arranged marriages.

 

Just because the game doesn't show you a big wedding scene doesn't mean that they are discriminating people who think that marriage is super important. There's nothing that says that your Inquisitor and Josephine doesn't get their perfect fairy tale wedding once Cory is defeated and things have settled down a bit. 

 

I have no doubt that I've missed some good and bad examples, but I think you get my point. Once again: how the hell are you being treated poorly/ridiculed by Bioware?

 

Edit: Not sure if married, but Wade and Herren are in a devoted relationship as are Nicolas and Julien. 

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Who have they made into laughing stocks, exactly? Snooty Orlesians who are obsessed with fancy hats? Those are the only people I can think of who were consistently mocked in Inquisition.

 

 

 

 

I think it's possible to complete the Dorian romance without the sex scene, as well, although someone else would need to confirm that. There was no way I was going to miss out on that glorious arse.

Yep. You can tell him you want to slow things down and that you specifically want a relationship. It continues with nothing more than kissing on screen.

[Andraste_Reborn]

And that's just inside the games. Outside the games, it is a different beast entirely.

 

Ynqve covered my thoughts on the in-game stuff, but I have to ask about this. How exactly are they mistreating you outside the games?

 

Yep. You can tell him you want to slow things down and that your specifically want a relationship. It continues with nothing more than kissing on screen.

 

Thanks! I remembered hearing that it was possible. That means there's one romance each that can proceed with no sex scene for gay male PCs, lesbian PCs, and straight PCs of both genders. Sounds reasonably distributed to me.

[CrimsonN7]

Sera is the last of the companions that I could ever see wanting to get married.

 

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free, ahem.