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Will Bioware ever make DA:Origins 2?


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No I'm not talking about a copy paste of Origins with a bigger blight but a game that actually feels like a sequel not spin off ( like both DA:2 and Inquisition did)

 

 

They are still good games but from the story, overall design and gameplay etc. they don't feel like worthy successors to Origins 

 

 

DA2 was basically a poor attempt to turn Dragon Age into Mass Effect (with a defined human protagonist) its also clear that they wanted to start a new trilogy with Hawke but because of the poor reception we got DA:I

Now DA:I feels like a poor attempt to turn DA into Skyrim with good characters 

 

 

Why can't Bioware make Origins 2? Why try to turn this game series into something else and loose its "soul" and uniqueness?

Its just such a shame that even after DA2 and all these years they still didn't understand what many (not all of course) fans of Origins wanted: A sequel with improvements in gameplay, graphics, story etc. not a completely new direction (two times already whats next?)

 

 

What do you think? Anyone agree? 

This is not a thread to bash Bioware but as a disappointed fan I just wanted to express my feelings towards this matter


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But there IS a sequel, it's called DA 2 (unfortunately) and Inquisition. 


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No it is highly unlikely and seriously people should stop saying that I for one don't want Dragon Age to be just an other CoD. Keeping the game the same and then re releasing it over and over is bad. People must finally realize that and put their nostalgia glasses away. Inquisition is hardly perfect but it's a great game and I would rather have that than just an other version of Origins.


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No it is highly unlikely and seriously people should stop saying that I for one don't want Dragon Age to be just an other CoD. Keeping the game the same and then re releasing it over and over is bad. People must finally realize that and put their nostalgia glasses away. Inquisition is hardly perfect but it's a great game and I would rather have that than just an other version of Origins.

maybe you misunderstood me I'm not saying that we should get a copy-paste of Origins -.-



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Personally I think people need to stop comparing games and having expectations of what they want.  Dragon Age: Origins was complained about because it wasn't enough like Baldur's Gate and then Dragon Age 2 wasn't enough like Dragon Age: Origins and now Dragon Age: Inquisition isn't enough like Dragon Age: Origins. Of course then Mass Effect 1 wasn't enough like Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect 2 wasn't enough like Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 3 wasn't enough like Mass Effect 2.  

 

On top of that what a person considers to be what made Dragon Age: Origins a good game, doesn't mean that is what everyone else like or even if they did try there is no way to guarantee that they could meet those expectations because the comparisons are intangible because its based on personal feelings, expectations, and how an old game is remembered.

 

Unless you can clarify what you want with something like "soul" it will never happen because that is undefinable so to make a game that has the same soul you would need to clone it just like they clone Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed and frankly I rather have games with elements I am not really happy with because I don't want to keep shelling out money for the exact same game. 

 

There are people that liked Inquisition and didn't like Origins, so why should they have to put up with a game they don't like and "wish BioWare would go back to..."?


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Personally I think people need to stop comparing games and having expectations of what they want.  Dragon Age: Origins was complained about because it wasn't enough like Baldur's Gate and then Dragon Age 2 wasn't enough like Dragon Age: Origins and now Dragon Age: Inquisition isn't enough like Dragon Age: Origins. Of course then Mass Effect 1 wasn't enough like Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect 2 wasn't enough like Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 3 wasn't enough like Mass Effect 2.  

 

On top of that what a person considers to be what made Dragon Age: Origins a good game, doesn't mean that is what everyone else like or even if they did try there is no way to guarantee that they could meet those expectations because the comparisons are intangible because its based on personal feelings, expectations, and how an old game is remembered.

 

Unless you can clarify what you want with something like "soul" it will never happen because that is undefinable so to make a game that has the same soul you would need to clone it just like they clone Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed and frankly I rather have games with elements I am not really happy with because I don't want to keep shelling out money for the exact same game. 

 

There are people that liked Inquisition and didn't like Origins, so why should they have to put up with a game they don't like and "wish BioWare would go back to..."?

Yup, its not good to always comparing it with DA O, but still we need better story & character development for DA I. I think Inquisition already have big map, lot of variation for dragon and animal, interesting crafting system, etc etc. It is a pity that the main story are lame.



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Will people ever let go of the past?


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maybe you misunderstood me I'm not saying that we should get a copy-paste of Origins -.-

 

So what direction would you have Bioware follow? linear games with little sense of exploration with slow combat and better graphics? because if you change anything other then the graphics the game automatically changes direction to a whole new one. People liked origins for different reason some folks liked the way gameplay was in Origins while some hated it. Some like linear games some don't. Truth is no matter what Bioware or any gaming company does it is impossible to please everyone in the community simply because each person is drawn by different aspects of a game and changing even one of them will result to some people being disappointed..



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This is the third thread this past week about this subject.  OP, if you are serious, no one is going to take you very seriously.

 

As I keep saying. Origins 2 would automatically be awful. No matter what Bioware does it will never have the same feel and experience as you had the first time you played Origins.


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No. And if they did, it wouldn't be as big a hit as some people think. Since Bio knows this, they dont make it.



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Short answer: No.

Long answer: Never.


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All they needed to do is to have a better balance of exploration and core story + better pc controls and tactics. I think this franchise is going in the right direction.


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No..Original team is not there anymore..DAI is made by ME3 and DA2 team...


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Given that Mike Laidlaw is the lead designer for the Dragon Age series, I'd say no.
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No, and thank god



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I always wonder what is meant by DA:O2. 

 

Do people just want to play the Warden again?

Do they what an continuation of the story?

Is the the combat they want back? 

 

Something I've always liked about DA is that each game is different. I like the idea of telling multiple tales, that take place in the same place, over a set period of time.

 

Fallout & Elder Scrolls games always take place too far about in time from each other for their to be any real connection.

 

As much as I liked DA:O, I'm glad BioWare didn't just do what countless other game developers do and just made the same game with shinner graphics and a vaguely different story. 


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Yup, its not good to always comparing it with DA O, but still we need better story & character development for DA I. I think Inquisition already have big map, lot of variation for dragon and animal, interesting crafting system, etc etc. It is a pity that the main story are lame.

 

I do wonder if part of the reason for the story in Inquisition is our own fault, for people were extremely upset at how the story in Dragon Age 2 was handled because Hawke was just our avatar to exploring the events encircling Kirkwall and compounded with demands making the game open world, heck I remember people saying BioWare should give the Dragon Age IP to Bethesda because "they know how to make RPGs".


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heck I remember people saying BioWare should give the Dragon Age IP to Bethesda because "they know how to make RPGs".


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Will people ever let go of the past?

I wonder that as well.



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Everyone has a very different memory of DAO. Everyone loved different things in DAO. So while I don't quite agree that any attempts to make DAO2 will fail (the attempts have to be in earnest of course, which won't happen sincew Brent Knowles left), I do agree that it won't be as much a hit as people expect.

We are already at a point where the story has moved on too much to go back. And honestly the story is fine. Going back to similar combat again is something which while many will like, but also many of BW's new target user base might find dull. So I don't we'll ever get exactly DAO style combat. But a balance is needed between what we had in DAO and the still relatively dumbed down combat of DAI.

What they certainly must take from DAO to make the game appear more like DAO2 is the side quests and the content. To put it simply DAI had a lot less engaging story content than DAO. That should be remedied.

And of course they can bid a final goodbye to all the characters. But there are already my HoF threads so I will refrain from going into that here.


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Ahw hell naw.

 

I never said it was a good idea, but there were people championing the idea and I disliked it strongly at the time.  Heck the opposite is true too though, I have read on the Bethesda forums that Bethesda should give The Elder Scrolls to BioWare too.  I just wish people would enjoy games on their own merits instead of comparing them to other games.


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The only way that will happen will be when we go north into fully uncharted waters and they use it to explain the people of the area...remember dalish elves aren't in the imperium and so o according to Dorian

But wait they already are doing that


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Everyone has a very different memory of DAO. Everyone loved different things in DAO. So while I don't quite agree that any attempts to make DAO2 will fail (the attempts have to be in earnest of course, which won't happen sincew Brent Knowles left), I do agree that it won't be as much a hit as people expect.

We are already at a point where the story has moved on too much to go back. And honestly the story is fine. Going back to similar combat again is something which while many will like, but also many of BW's new target user base might find dull. So I don't we'll ever get exactly DAO style combat. But a balance is needed between what we had in DAO and the still relatively dumbed down combat of DAI.

What they certainly must take from DAO to make the game appear more like DAO2 is the side quests and the content. To put it simply DAI had a lot less engaging story content than DAO. That should be remedied.

And of course they can bid a final goodbye to all the characters. But there are already my HoF threads so I will refrain from going into that here.

 

It will always fail in some aspect for even looking at Inquisition there are plenty of people saying that BioWare did it right and are very close to perfecting what Origins did.  I will always find some area for improvement in any game I play because I am a critical person and probably would never consider any game perfect.

 

I am not crazy about your comment about combat though, for that was one of the areas that got the most complaints when Origins was first released so it is more then "just their new target audience" unless you consider people who bought Dragon Age: Origins part of that new audience.  I find I like the combat in both games for different reasons, but if I was forced to pick one I think it would be Inquisition only because I didn't start playing on easier difficulties because I got bored.



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consoles is the "blight" upon computer games.

it's archdemon, exist out of many little people with lots of golden coins, with it corupting all what the maker

was hopeing to create, forever corupting it's land bringing greed and chaos upon man.


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