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[Korva]

Why wouldn't I sacrifice Hawke, is the better question.

 

1) Not having playing DA2, I don't personally give a whit about this character, anyway. The same is true for Stroud, admittedly -- unlike with Alistair (king) and Loghain (dead and unmourned), I don't even know who he's supposed to be and don't feel like bothering to find out.

2) I'd rather keep one of the few trustworthy and intelligent Grey Wardens around in hopes of salvaging what can be salvaged from that organization.

3) It has the bigger emotional impact on other people -- the scene with Varric in which you can hug him for comfort is really touching.

4) I rather like heroic sacrifices now and then. My Warden is dead and I'd never even consider another ending to Origins. (The death of whoever gets to distract the demon in the Fade is, sadly, less certain.) If someone has to die, I'd rather it be "my" character than someone else.

 

Going by what I know about DA2, and going by the way Hawke acts in Inquisition, she's a person who's lost and outlived most of what ever meant anything to her, anyway. Plus, she had a hand in letting Corypheus and the red lyrium loose on the world, even unknowingly and despite her best efforts to the contrary. If she actually was my character, I know I'd play her as someone who's focused on only one thing anymore: to make up for the crap she and some of her "friends" stirred up. If that means laying down her life so the only person who can to save the world survives to do so, she'll do that without hesitation.

[stop_him]

Me.

 

I kill Hawke in every. single. playthrough. in favor of Alistair, Loghain, and Stroud. Reason: I could barely finish playing DA2 because Hawke was such a boring human nob. I resented being forced to play a nob human in DA2 after being given so many choices in DAO. I was happy to see choices return in DAI. Killing Hawke is an opportunity to "purge" all that was wrong with DA2. 

[robertmarilyn]

Never will I kill Hawke or Alistair so I'll never use any other WS other than my warden who is married to King Alistair. There are just some choices, that I'm not willing to make. That is why I'm very happy knowing what happens in a game before I buy the game. 

[Deanna]

Really? I've been reading alot of ppl saying they chose Hawke over Stroud to stay behind. I sacrificed Stroud in my 1st PT cuz I was thinking 'in death, sacrifice' cuz he's a grey warden and all.

I only choose Hawke if she didn't romance anyone, that might be selfish but I just couldn't do that to Anders or Fenris. With Fenris afraid of being alone, and Anders telling Hawke it would kill him to lose her. Idk why but I just get sentimental like that. But I did choose Hawke once while in a romance with Sebastian and when she said "sorry Sebastian." I was like D:

I think the sensible choice would be to sacrifice Hawke (with no romance, or with for drama purposes) cuz Stroud/Alistair/Logain can help rebuild the order or whatever lol

[errantknight]

I sacrificed Stroud. I'll be sacrificing Hawke next time, but I made her the opposite in all ways from my Hawke to do so.

[Andir]

No matter who the Warden is, my Hawke dies.

 

A senior Grey Warden with a good head on their shoulders is much more needed at the time than a Champion of a single city. He was involved with the mage/templar thing, but the Inquisitor kind of wrapped that up. (I say at the time, don't know what will happen in the future.)

 

Plus, I love self-sacrificing heroes! I've managed to kill both of my protags of DA, now I just need to find a way to kill my Inquisitor as some continued tradition...(Sorry 'quisitor!)

[daveliam]

Count me as one of the people who had no issues sacrificing Hawke in the Fade.  Why?

 

 

Yes, my first playthrough. Stroud seemed the better choice to survive because of the Grey Wardens.

 

This.

 

Me.

 

I kill Hawke in every. single. playthrough. in favor of Alistair, Loghain, and Stroud. Reason: I could barely finish playing DA2 because Hawke was such a boring human nob. I resented being forced to play a nob human in DA2 after being given so many choices in DAO. I was happy to see choices return in DAI. Killing Hawke is an opportunity to "purge" all that was wrong with DA2. 

 

Especially this.

 

No matter who the Warden is, my Hawke dies.

 

A senior Grey Warden with a good head on their shoulders is much more needed at the time then a Champion of a single city. He was involved with the mage/templar thing, but the Inquisitor kind of wrapped that up. (I say at the time, don't know what will happen in the future.)

 

Plus, I love self-sacrificing heroes! I've managed to kill both of my protags of DA, now I just need to find a way to kill my Inquisitor as some continued tradition...(Sorry 'quisitor!)

 

Also this.

[Little Princess Peach]

I killed off Hawke, it was not really my hawke anyway so i was ok with it

[Korva]

Plus, I love self-sacrificing heroes! I've managed to kill both of my protags of DA, now I just need to find a way to kill my Inquisitor as some continued tradition...(Sorry 'quisitor!)

 

You sound like me. When Varric warned the then-Herald early on, in Haven, that you should consider running while you can because he knows a tragedy in the making when he sees one, I wondered if it was foreshadowing.

[LobselVith8]

Just what it says on the can. I've yet to see anyone say they chose to sacrifice Hawke instead of Stroud at the end of Adamant. If you did sacrifice Hawke, what was your justification?

 

I ended up choosing to sacrifice the Champion, and spared Warden Loghain. My intention was to leave someone who could lead the current order of Orlesian Wardens, and the Champion wanted to atone for waking up Corypheus and unleashing him on the world.

 

As a side note, it was also awkward to hear him talk about how blood magic was evil while being in a relationship with Merrill, who was a blood mage. It made me feel very uncomfortable.

[PorcelynDoll]

I always sacrifice my boy Hawkes instead of Stroud simply because I feel no connection with them and I hated Merril and Isabela as romance options and I don't care about their happiness.

 

I will always sacrifice Hawke if Loghain or Alistair is the Warden.

[sandalisthemaker]

I plan on sacrificing Hawke this playthrough, something I didn't think I would end up doing. 

 

Three reasons:  It makes more sense story wise to have Stroud live, since either he or Hawke will go to Weisshaupt. It makes no sense that Hawke would just up and leave for Weisshaupt instead of staying to fight "his responsibility" Corypheus. It makes sense for Stroud to go though.

 

2nd reason:  I want to hug Varric.  It's a nice touch that they allow male Inquisitors to comfort him if we want.

 

3rd, It makes for a sadder story, and I want this playthrough to be sad.

[EmissaryofLies]

I ended up choosing to sacrifice the Champion, and spared Warden Loghain. My intention was to leave someone who could lead the current order of Orlesian Wardens, and the Champion wanted to atone for waking up Corypheus and unleashing him on the world.

 

As a side note, it was also awkward to hear him talk about how blood magic was evil while being in a relationship with Merrill, who was a blood mage. It made me feel very uncomfortable.

 

They be godmoddin' your characters, bro.

[Voxr]

I did. Not because of any Hawke hate, I've put that behind me. I did it because I wanted the Wardens to be redeemed. Figured Stroud could fit the bill. Besides I'm a sucker for heroic sacrifice, so I threw my canon Hawke to the demon.

[katerinafm]

I will eventually do that. First playthrough I sacrificed him because Alistair was with him and he was romanced and no way in hell I was going to get him killed XD. Second Loghain was there and killing him just made more sense because he was already old and close to his calling.

[LadyJaneGrey]

On my "keep Wardens as Inquisition forces play through" I initially left Stroud in the Fade. After watching Ms. I-Must-Kill-Corypheus-at-All-Costs Hawke say " take care of Varric for me" and bop off to Maker-knows-where...

I reloaded and saved Stroud. Sorry, Varric, but I couldn't make that work.

[Wulfram]

Me, because Grey Wardens.

Probably also a bit because Hawke wasn't really acting like Hawke anyway.

[Deanna]

Yea I just have to add I'm probably one of the few who actually likes Hawke but I didn't really like her in inquisition especially in the fade when she started arguing with Stroud about the Grey Wardens I was like wtf Hawke they're being controlled you know this mmaaannn

[TEWR]

I think I'm gonna sacrifice Hawke in future runthroughs.

 

Mainly because Loghain becoming the Warden-Commander of Orlais after having been assigned to their branche following the Blight is rather awesome in and of itself, but also this is Hawke's moment to shine. And the wording is suspect, so he'll probably be back.

 

Not that it matters in my headcanon. The choice is too contrived for my tastes considering the Anchor and exists purely to make drama for the sake of drama.

I ended up choosing to sacrifice the Champion, and spared Warden Loghain. My intention was to leave someone who could lead the current order of Orlesian Wardens, and the Champion wanted to atone for waking up Corypheus and unleashing him on the world.

 

As a side note, it was also awkward to hear him talk about how blood magic was evil while being in a relationship with Merrill, who was a blood mage. It made me feel very uncomfortable.

 

I wouldn't mind Hawke taking issue with blood magic if it was simply things like Demon summoning, mind control, blood sacrifice of the unwilling, etc. You know, the ghastly aspects, things Merrill will have no part of. But he acts as if blood magic itself is this unconscionable thing (despite hey, maybe having been a blood mage himself).

 

I do like the quote he says though.

 

"Everyone has a story they tell themselves to justify bad decisions... and it never matters. In the end, you are always alone in your actions."

[Ahalvern]

Another one who sacrificed Hawke for Alistair. I'm glad I found out the spoilers way before that moment too, otherwise I would have been losing my **** the moment the choice appeared on my screen. Ugh I hated doing it, but I have another save where the choice will be between Stroud and Hawke, and I'll let Hawke live this time.

 

Not that Hawke didn't live in my canon playthrough, didn't see the corpse. *in denial land*

[Reznore57]

"Everyone has a story they tell themselves to justify bad decisions... and it never matters. In the end, you are always alone in your actions."

 

Yeah well what a bunch of stupid lines coming from Hawke mouth , when I think about the whole Gallows scene when all your companions tell you they won't let you face the battle alone .

[umadcommander]

came so close to doing so, i like stroud more than hawke anyways but i figured he probably has considerably less time of this earth than hawke does and spite is no real reason to kill her off in the end

 

that said if it were alistair or loghain there id have thrown hawke into the spiders jaws myself, if you sacrificed alistair there you should be ashamed of yourself

[Neon Rising Winter]

Yea I just have to add I'm probably one of the few who actually likes Hawke but I didn't really like her in inquisition especially in the fade when she started arguing with Stroud about the Grey Wardens I was like wtf Hawke they're being controlled you know this mmaaannn

I dunno, I had a certain sympathy with that rant given the silly sods had just fallen for a variant on a computer security scam. Hallo, my name is Alan, I'm calling on behalf of the Blight Corporation. We've identified a problem in your system, and I need you to urgently follow these steps...

[dsl08002]

I didnt, strange isnt it.

[LobselVith8]

I think I'm gonna sacrifice Hawke in future runthroughs.

 

Mainly because Loghain becoming the Warden-Commander of Orlais after having been assigned to their branche following the Blight is rather awesome in and of itself, but also this is Hawke's moment to shine. And the wording is suspect, so he'll probably be back.

 

True, the wording gives them room to have the Champion come back if they want to.

 

As for Warden Loghain, I'd like to learn what his potential involvement is with the Wardens up north (once he makes his expedition there), since it seems like the First Warden is vying for control of the Anderfels, and there could be a possible schism in the order.

 

Not that it matters in my headcanon. The choice is too contrived for my tastes considering the Anchor and exists purely to make drama for the sake of drama.

 

Technically, so is the choice with Iron Bull as a Dalish mage, considering that elven mages can travel through the earth to other locations (as Velanna and Merrill did), so it should have been possible for Lavellan to surprise attack the Venatori (except game mechanics don't allow Lavellan to use any Dalish magic).

 

I wouldn't mind Hawke taking issue with blood magic if it was simply things like Demon summoning, mind control, blood sacrifice of the unwilling, etc. You know, the ghastly aspects, things Merrill will have no part of. But he acts as if blood magic itself is this unconscionable thing (despite hey, maybe having been a blood mage himself).

 

Yeah, that was another peculiar aspect to his condemnation of blood magic, and one of the problems that was bound to happen when the developers brought back a previous protagonist and decided to determine who he was, even if it flew in the face of what players had chosen for their character (like becoming a blood mage).

 

I do like the quote he says though.

 

"Everyone has a story they tell themselves to justify bad decisions... and it never matters. In the end, you are always alone in your actions."

 

The Champion did have his moments.