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[Saphiron123]

If there's one thing that is just killing me, it's the fetch quests... like this one blows my mind. Searching every corner of skyhold for 48 copies of varrick's book is about the least entertaining thing i can imagine doing. Half the quests I get are from note tossed on the ground, they don't even have npcs attached, or someone to return to. I get the desire to draw the game out, but I'd love it if there was 1/10th the quests each with voice acting and companion dialogue (most fetch quests don't get a word from anybody).

The war table is cool, though I hope you don't expect us to remember all those decisions for the keep... because nobody is going to be able to unless there's some kind of dialogue or cut scene attached to the major ones. If that stuff is carrying voer, I hope the keep will have a means of actually using your save from DAI (it works fine as is for origins and da2)... especially now that we've created custom hawkes and I REALLY hope a custom warden will make an appearance too (hopefully playable in a very large expansion... i mean the hawke system was great, though i understand hawke sort of has 3 personalities while the warden almost HAS to be playable).

Still, fewer fetch quests, I'd rather shave 20 hours off and have more memorable interactions... if you asked me about most of the filler stuff in the keep, i'd have no idea, even stuff i literally did tonight.

[Shinobu]

The books respawn, so you can get that stack of three by Viv multiple times (not sure how long you need to wait in between). Each of the party members has a copy and there are more in the library, infirmary, Inqi's antechamber, kitchen, tavern and stuck into the wall near the stairs by the garden to name a few spots. Of the fetch quests, Hard in Hightown is relatively nondemanding. Mosaics, on the other hand...

[DaemionMoadrin]

Fun fact: There aren't 48 of those books in Skyhold. You have to leave the keep and return, so you can pick them up again... and they will stay there forever and ever. Always taunting you.

[Dakota Strider]

Makes you wonder, why the Skyholde library, the depository of knowledge being used to run the Inquisition, has even 1 copy of Varric's fictional book, let alone 48 copies.  And why should anyone care if some of them are missing? 

[Saphiron123]

They may respawn but still, the point remains... did anybody have fun collecting these? Dragon age has some GREAT quests, but dozens of little fetch quests found on a scroll in the middle of the woods with no conversation or character development drag the whole experience down.

If they cut out those fetch quests and gave us 1/10th of the quests but make them great? With character interaction and dialogue etc... now that would make DAI truly amazing.

Varrick didn't even comment when I got them all. I just got "quest complete" in the top corner of my game. You get that a lot, drop off someone's ashes at the shrine? No need to tell the family, quest complete.

[MaxQuartiroli]

I never bothered with it.. seriously.

As far as I'm concerned it can also stay in my journal forever, together with some collections.

[Lord Raijin]

I find the fetch quest to be highly annoying and I don't find it to be fun either. Theirs nothing RPG about it either. It's nothing but a time wasting filler. You're the most important person in Thedas right now, and you're wasting valuable time traveling from a far distance to find a few pages of varric's book? Let's just all stop what were doing here and forget that theirs a crazy ancient darkspawn that want's to destroy the world and remake it by accenting into godhood just so that we can find copies of varrics book? OKAY! Why is it my responsibility to do it anyway? Varric has the connections that he needs... let him deal with it, not I.

[Demon Velsper]

Thankfully I've managed to miss this quest.

[vetlet]

this is the first I've heard of it...

[MaxQuartiroli]

this is the first I've heard of it...

 

In order to trigger it you have to talk to that elven in the library of the Skyhold.. don't know at what moment of your campaign tbo.

I did it right before the final mission but I suppose you can get it earlier, since I have barely talked to him a couple of times (and I don't even know why....) 

[robertthebard]

I have gotten this quest exactly once, so far, right after I got to Skyhold. In the process of exploring the Keep, and finding and talking to my advisors and companions through the course of the game, I managed to complete it w/out even really trying to complete it. The only thing that "annoys" me about it is that the books remain even after you complete it, but really, that's sort of a non-issue since I can just ignore them.

[vetlet]

In order to trigger it you have to talk to that elven in the library of the Skyhold.. don't know at what moment of your campaign tbo.

I did it right before the final mission but I suppose you can get it earlier, since I have barely talked to him a couple of times (and I don't even know why....) 

 

Ah. I think I will now avoid this, as collecting 48 books will annoy the hell out of me. Like that glitched 12th mosaic piece.

Cheers for the heads up.

[Xralius]

This game is bad and Bioware should feel bad.

[Xralius]

This game is bad and Bioware should feel bad.

[Sidney]

Again, this is nothing new unless you forgot about finding 10 qunari swords or 10 garnets in the previous games.

There were a lot of notes on the ground type quests in DAO, they were called chanters board quests in DA2 they were crap you overheard. You also had things like Admirable Topsider run off a note or the even odder Asunder where you find a bag of body parts and drag them along for absolutely no reason to a destination you have zero idea where it should be.

[Kantr]

You dont have to do the quest.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I'm so glad I missed this quest on my first play through. I would hate for it to be in my journal taunting me.

[Elsariel]

Well, great.  I've never heard of this quest before and now I have to do it because I'm like that.  *sigh*

[squidney2k1]

No, I did not have fun collecting them cuz I didn't bother collecting them.

There are more than enough things to do in this game than to chase down EVERY single task available.

[Octarin]

Now *this* is pure Sadism. I salute you devs. 

[Jirec]

It's more value to me and more of an reward if I get to talk to someone about a said quest, to interact with and get a sense of what this said person feel and wants (also to see their faces in these conversations, like in cinematic). Choices, companion interaction and so adds even more to it and the deeper and better made all quests are, the more joy you get from doing them.

 

Also with so much space to move through, you really do not need to fill it all out with simple side quests and enemies roaming about. It's more fun to me to walk around for 10-15 minutes or more and barely to do nothing other to explore and see/feel the world around you. And rather to only run through group after group of enemies to kill, you can have a few events with bandits attacking you all randomly or other events such as you stumble upon a group you can ambush yourself, like you did in DA:O, it adds so much more to the feel of you travelling about.

 

The thrill of the danger around you as you travel is also something to take a mind to, rather than go all action killing stuff all over. Waiting for something to happen that you may know will, but maybe not when, can sure keep you on your toes. ^^

 

I agree that side quests shouldn't feel like typical side quests and should either be more involved with the main plot or spin on something else interesting. Quality over quantity after all, doesn't even have to remove these huge areas to explore, when the world look so good as it does!

[DaemionMoadrin]

Now *this* is pure Sadism. I salute you devs. 

 

The quest itself is tame and it does a fairly good job at showing you around your keep. Takes 7-8 minutes. The sadistic part is that you can only complete the quest if you get all the upgrades... but you can only do mage or templar tower, so you're missing out on ~6 books. Or perhaps some are in the vault that is supposedly being unlocked by a perk.

The previously collected books become active again once you travel, so you can easily complete the quest and it'll be gone from your journal... and that's where the second sadistic part comes into play. The books will always be active after you traveled and taunt you when you ping in Skyhold. They are everywhere, too.

[ruggly]

The quest itself is tame and it does a fairly good job at showing you around your keep. Takes 7-8 minutes. The sadistic part is that you can only complete the quest if you get all the upgrades... but you can only do mage or templar tower, so you're missing out on ~6 books. Or perhaps some are in the vault that is supposedly being unlocked by a perk.

The previously collected books become active again once you travel, so you can easily complete the quest and it'll be gone from your journal... and that's where the second sadistic part comes into play. The books will always be active after you traveled and taunt you when you ping in Skyhold. They are everywhere, too.

 

Ok, maybe you can answer this, I selected the tower upgrade, but I don't see the survey tool for the upgrade.  Where do you find that?

[Octarin]

The quest itself is tame and it does a fairly good job at showing you around your keep. Takes 7-8 minutes. The sadistic part is that you can only complete the quest if you get all the upgrades... but you can only do mage or templar tower, so you're missing out on ~6 books. Or perhaps some are in the vault that is supposedly being unlocked by a perk.

The previously collected books become active again once you travel, so you can easily complete the quest and it'll be gone from your journal... and that's where the second sadistic part comes into play. The books will always be active after you traveled and taunt you when you ping in Skyhold. They are everywhere, too.

 

Moot point. By the time I've done all the upgrades I've already learned Skyhold inside out. :/

[Abyss108]

I never even knew this was a thing. 

 

Now I'm wondering how many other quests in Skyhold I missed out on...