Blackwall.
Solas, obviously.
Veric
Cole with bow if your into microing. If you perfer A.I, Sera.
I don't understand this, Cole and Sera don't have different AI systems. Cole with a bow (and the same talent/prefs as Sera) is identical to Sera with a bow, no?
I don't understand this, Cole and Sera don't have different AI systems. Cole with a bow (and the same talent/prefs as Sera) is identical to Sera with a bow, no?
correct but he is talking about the specializations.
I usually run with two warriors, a rogue and a mage.
The brutes with the shields distract everything while my mage and rogue dps the hell out of their taunted arses.
This way I can play on hard without needing to use the tactics camera, which I cannot stand.
Basically if are a mage or rogue you take blackwall and vivenne/solas depending if you are KE or RM. And Sera for DPS/Cass for Demon hunting rift clearing or anyone for flavor.
on nightmare as rogue, i took solas vivi and blackwall and never died after i got to skyhold.
as a warrior I played a SnS tank champ, had Cass 2hand and stacked her with party buffs. [valor horn, blessed blades] then varric and solas for lock down.
and to be fair i didnt recruit anyone else.
sns tank champ is pretty funny. everything hits you but you dont die :DD
I'd spin in circles with walking fortress active in front of taunted enemies. more so since i had the shield and armor have different levels of walking fortress 3 and 5 seconds. And my one hander had guard generation.
I'd disengage spin around then reengage and just screw around on nightmare with quizchamp.
Personally, a tank like Cass plus either two mages and an archer or two archers and a mage with the former being better in early levels since you can alternate barrier from two mages to mitigate most damage.
I've spent the last hour or so with Cole in my party, to hear some new banter.
I wondered if it would work out well, given that we're both archers (me Artificer, him Assassin).
... it's amazing. I think I'll be using the two archers, one tank and one support mage set up for some time.
Man, I love this game. I'm constantly finding new ways to have fun.
I run with the following set up:
Recipe - 1 Tank, 1 Rogue, 2 Mages
Cass - Tank and because she's awesome
Varric - Ranged Rogue. May switch between Sera/Cole just for variety
Dorian - Mage and because he's awesome (favorite side character since Balthier in FF12). I hear Necro is bad, so I might not use his specialization.
Vahn - Mage (going KE). There are Jedi's in Thedas. Enough said.
Pre-skyhold, I've never died and I've never ran out of potions. I'm actually thinking of turning up the difficulty. But with this setup, I've had a solid experience!
Best party for me was :
Inquisitor : Rift Mage
Prefered : Dispel, Revival, Barrier
Enabled : Chain Lightning, Stonefist
Role : Crowd Control and Barrier mage (Will put enemies to sleep and detonate them into nightmare)
Special : When Barrier breaks with 2 points in the frost tree, it does an Aoe Frost Nova
Cassandra-Shield Bash or you Mages-Stone Fist will detonate that. Also, dispel could cause a small detonation.
Solas : Rift Mage
Prefered : Dispel, Revival, Barrier
Enabled : Chain Lightning, Stonefist
Role : Crowd Control and Barrier mage (Will put enemies to sleep and detonate them into nightmare)
Special : When Barrier breaks with 2 points in the frost tree, it does an Aoe Frost Nova
Cassandra-Shield Bash or you Mages-Stone Fist will detonate that. Also, dispel could cause a small detonation.
Cassandra : Templar
Prefered : Charging Bull, Spell Purge
Enabled : Shield Bash, Shield Wall, Grappling Chain, War Horn
Role : Will completly destroy Guard and Barriers, will crit on those for 5k+ ... Also, decent crowd control
Blackwall : Champion
Prefered : Charging Bull, Pommel Strike, Walking Fortress
Enabled : Mighty Blow, Counterstrike, Grappling Chain
Role : Each Pummel Strike will be followed by a Dispel Combo (causing weakness), then Chain Lightning (causing sleep), then Dispel again (causing nightmare).
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*) First and most important, the AI described above will play smart, you can control any of those characters, but I usually control Blackwall. It is always fun to witness the AI detonate dispels left and right. The AI is actually better than me at doing so.
a) Warriors can open locked doors with shield bash or mighty blow. No need for a rogue. You can always fast travel back for those "deft hands" locked doors.
Shocked (chain lightning) + Weakness (Stone Fist) = Deep Sleep. With dispel on prefered, you will see combos flying left and right and very decent damage.
c) Set every single party member to use 0 potions, except for Cassandra. They will use their barrier or invulnerability skills to survive fatal hits and if all else fails, you have double revive. Seriously, the strength of this party is its surviability even when you have 0 potions left.
d) For Dragons, just disable Chain Lightning and Enable Energy Barrage. Then, equip a staff with an energy to which the dragon is vulnerable. Cassandra will melt through guard.
e) Fun factor. I fell like controlling a tempest rogue sometimes feels like cheating. You burst so much damage, you feel like you dont even need your team. In other words, the main reason why I like this setup is because my team supports each other and combo off each other's abilities. It really feels like teamwork.
My current party.
Inquisitor: Bow Artificer.
Cole: Bow Assassin.
Solas: Spirit and Rift Mage.
Cassandra: Sword and Shield, pure Tank.
I usually play on hard as I find Nightmare a bit of a grind, and I cannot stand using the tactical camera. That isn't the case here. Now Nightmare is essential to provide any challenge at all. A two archer party is insanely powerful. And the dreaded tac-cam? Rarely needed. My critical chance in 57%, and Cole's is 43%. With Artificer as my spec, my cooldowns are virtually non-existent.
What about for dragons on hard/nightmare? I find mages and rogues just keep getting range attacked by dragon spits while warriors do fine spamming charging bull to gain guard at the dragons feet.
issue is Ai is not as good as Taunting as Player, look here (its not my char)
& here
dragon range attacks ur mages when tank get knocked down cause then he is free to attack awry1, & mostly it is when he attacks tank & ur mage gets in the way, mostly the problem is drgaonlings (when dragon summons them) not so much as dragons range attacks
I generally always keep one warrior, one mage and one rogue in my party at most times. That's really the only rule of thumb I use when choosing my party, and even then that rule sometimes goes out the window if I want to mix things up a bit.
What about for dragons on hard/nightmare? I find mages and rogues just keep getting range attacked by dragon spits while warriors do fine spamming charging bull to gain guard at the dragons feet.
Alternately, using the elemental resistance tonics works wonders for your ranged attackers' longevity against dragons. Just make sure you have the right type for the dragon you're fighting.
The game favours ranged classes on average. Before getting specializations, DW rogues and 2-handed warriors tend to burn down potions. Especially during rifts with a lot of ranged types.
That said, a good set up early on can be.
A tank
A barrier
and
Two ranged dps.
Late-game, anything goes.
Currently running this combo with only 2 tier 3 crafting things, no topnotch dragon ingredients.
Dorian - Necro / Fire / green Spirit = THE damage dealer, so hard to keep aggro from him if he gets going, not using spirit mark! Those pets annoy me.
Blackwall with Vanguard party dmg buff; Iron Bull burns down too many potions unfortunately, have to babysit him, although he does incredible dmg
Solas - good Backup mage, heavy frost for shatter combos, Rift spells not bad too, nice to have Spock around for lame advices
Sera does not do it for me damagewise, AI not strong enough to be really effective I think, because rogues should use rotations a bit
Viv - I think KE is boring and you know, ...
Varric - hm, AI not using abilities well
Cole - good damage, but eats lots of dmg
Cassandra - was my main tank then dismissed, lost and forgotten. Do I have to babysit her dispels? I am on a dalish and chantry hater walkthrough hehe
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