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[zeypher]

Normal mooks i charge then get a free cast of WOH followed my purge. Group is dead. If they cannot be stunned then still charge, mighty blow by then Cassandra gets the aggro then you whack it till it dies. For dragons i try to position myself such that i can hit multiple legs in 1 spin of whirlwind. If you get that right with the passive that gives you stamina for hitting multiple targets in 1 hit you achieve neverending spin for decent damage. With cass and me as templars all of us have decent elemental resistance, if either her or i go down rest of part gets buffed. Do remember to equip entire party with the bee grenade, very helpful for dragons.

 

So far its working well.

[Rynas]

Oh ok, thought you were soloing for some reason.

 

So Wrath + Spell Purge works pretty well?  Is the Blessed Blades cooldown reduction any good?

[zeypher]

Didnt bother with blessed blades as i do not want to spend 1 more point in it. Atm it gives us no bonus damage, only works against demons so do not bother with its upgrade. Besides cooldown on it is redundant as it only works for WOH and purge but the thing is if a mob is susceptible to it it is not going to last long, and against dragons both WOH and purge are near useless.

 

When they do fix blessed blade so that it gives us 15% damage if we use then yes the upgrade will be good, but at this point in time i would say no. 

[Rynas]

Cool, sounds like a different and fun build...worth checking out

[sethroskull79]

Posted a thread about Spell Purge shatter.  Wondering what it works with.  I might just be using Cass wrong but I run in....cast WOH, wait for enemies to be stunned then cast purge/shatter and I don't see anything.  

[zeypher]

The upgrade to purge basically acts as a solo detonator on enemies if they have buff on them like barrier or the spirits near rifts who gain elemental powers from one of the demons either frost or fire. So when you purge mobs that have a beneficial buff on themselves you not only remove it but also nuke them for 600% weapon damage. Extremely good. 

 

Basically its a nuking dispel, when it dispels stuff of enemies like barrier etc it also nukes them. Try purging the barrier of a venatori mage and see what it will do. No need to stun just your purge alone will take away the barrier AND hit for 600% spirit damage.

[sethroskull79]

Ok so the upgraded purge won't do any damage to frozen or paralyzed enemies by my mages, only ones with beneficial magic from their own doing?

[zeypher]

Ok so the upgraded purge won't do any damage to frozen or paralyzed enemies by my mages, only ones with beneficial magic from their own doing?

yup, their own doing or their mages doing. But yes, also the green wispy demons who get elemental charged by either rage or the freezing demon..

[sethroskull79]

Maybe I'm not seeing it but I'm not sure my WOH and Shatter is working for Cass.  I run in and cast them back to back and I don't see any damage.  Maybe I was too far back.  I know it casts in a circle around the caster so you have to be in the middle of a mob.  It's yellow colored damage right?

[zeypher]

Yes its spirit damage. If the enemy can be stunned wrath of heaven will stun them then you use spell purge to blow them up. Works excellently infact templar working for my way of playing much better than my Reaver ever did.

[sethroskull79]

I went down the left side of the Templar Tree with Cass to get Purge and WOH.  Skipped Blades for obvious reasons discussed on here.  Maybe my timing is off.  Sometimes it's like the WOH isn't working on enemies.  Human mobs.  Tried a couple of Rifts where it seemed like it wasn't even causing demons damage.  Or it's happening so fast im missing it.  I'll have to try again tonight.  If I'm still having issues with both WOH and Purge I might just go Champion with my Inquisitor.

[Sugram84]

I went down the left side of the Templar Tree with Cass to get Purge and WOH.  Skipped Blades for obvious reasons discussed on here.  Maybe my timing is off.  Sometimes it's like the WOH isn't working on enemies.  Human mobs.  Tried a couple of Rifts where it seemed like it wasn't even causing demons damage.  Or it's happening so fast im missing it.  I'll have to try again tonight.  If I'm still having issues with both WOH and Purge I might just go Champion with my Inquisitor.

i noticed that to, sometimes it doesn't work & sometimes it does, but u have to be melee range or it will never work

[sethroskull79]

OK, I think I was trying to cast it from afar.  I need to run up in the mix and set off the combo.

[Sugram84]

OK, I think I was trying to cast it from afar.  I need to run up in the mix and set off the combo.

but it is still bugged, there are times it does no damage or ferry low damage, i was lvl 24 & lvl 19 ancient horror got so low damage, or are some ancient horrors immune to it or do they have good resistance to it, so it may be a bit bugged, finished my Templar today, my 3th char or is it 4th, it just i have more chars, to play when i am near end with one & i have war table missions left, that why i'm not sure is it 3th or 4th that i finished

[zeypher]

Arcane horrors cannot be stunned, but the WOH will do its demon damage part to them which is spirit damage and arcane horrors are resistant to spirit damage. 

[zeypher]

OK, I think I was trying to cast it from afar.  I need to run up in the mix and set off the combo.

Both WOH and Purge are skill centred from you basically aoes from you, so you need to be in the thick of things. Area is i think 3-5 metres with you at the centre. 

[sethroskull79]

I traveled to Emprise du Lion and farmed a few Chests.  Got a really good axe.  Like 230 dps or something.  Really helped out my Inquisitor.  Glad I went there.  Forget the name of the weapon but its good.  LV 14 now and doing good damage.  Also re speced Solas as a fire rift mage and Sera now has stealth and tempest abilities so that has really helped my party out.  Playing on hard still.  Haven't moved to NM, but I will probably one I get better equipment all around.

[zeypher]

But yes overall 2 handed warriors are weak in this game since who ever designed them this time was a moron. Still i play them cause i like playing 2 handed warriors.

[sethroskull79]

^ Yup.  I think 2HW best bet is to get the best possible gear.  Do your situational High Damage, then go into Champion Tank Skills and Hack away.  Maybe try to find a way to work the Counter Strike with Whirlwind or the Walking Fortress or To the Death with Whirlwind.

[Sugram84]

^ Yup.  I think 2HW best bet is to get the best possible gear.  Do your situational High Damage, then go into Champion Tank Skills and Hack away.  Maybe try to find a way to work the Counter Strike with Whirlwind or the Walking Fortress or To the Death with Whirlwind.

i finished 2H, not bad, but in DAI, i cant say i love it, it was better in DA2, in my opinion, in DAO it was also better

 

if u think 2HW is the best then, look this

& this

[zeypher]

I agree with Sugram that inquisition 2 handed warrior is by far the weakest iteration in the entire series. It is honestly that bad. Most of us who still play it because we like playing 2 handed warriors, but we got screwed over badly this time. Thats why im waiting to see what they do with them, IE fix them etc. If not then i have no intention of buying any dlcs so that i can suffer my warrior through them.

[Zetrial]

i finished 2H, not bad, but in DAI, i cant say i love it, it was better in DA2, in my opinion, in DAO it was also better

 

if u think 2HW is the best then, look this

& this

 

And 2H can counter with this without using bees.

 

Sure there are things to fix, like detonators but soloing Dragons is hardly the sole stomping ground of W&S.

[zeypher]

A vid made by sinosleep to show blessed blades does not work. Comparing horn of valour and blessed blades both supposed to give 15% damage increase.

[zeypher]

And 2H can counter with this without using bees.

 

Your vid proves my point even better, that even a 2 handed warrior needs passives from W&S, that is not really helping 2 handed defence is it. Oh and also using the animation attack cancelling technique. Im not saying skilled players cannot play them but i bring up the point of a broken tree when we need passives from another weapon style because they mandatory and need to use a glitch to do any thing respectable. Something is wrong then.

 

Basically who ever designed warriors this time screwed us over.

[Zetrial]

Your vid proves my point even better, that even a 2 handed warrior needs passives from W&S, that is not really helping 2 handed defence is it. Oh and also using the animation attack cancelling technique. Im not saying skilled players cannot play them but i bring up the point of a broken tree when we need passives from another weapon style because they mandatory and need to use a glitch to do any thing respectable. Something is wrong then.

 

Basically who ever designed warriors this time screwed us over.

 

Considering bees scaling with to the death can be considered a glitch and that W&S probably picks up cooldown reduction from crits in the 2H tree that kinda throws a wet blanket on it all. Each class does well to pick passives from non main spec trees, counting it solely against 2H is ridiculous. Defensive abilities from W&S help a damage focused 2H warrior solo, go figure, he'll still do damage in a group without those.

I'm not saying there isn't stuff to be fixed, as there is, but currently 2H isn't in the unplayable category.