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[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Isn't Sandara great? Eluvianus' current pic of Dorian is one of theirs.

 

I'll find more. I know she has at least one other of the two of them...it's just less finished. 

 

Have you seen the statue "The Rape of Proserpina" by.......I forget who it is by (Lorenzo something maybe) but oh my god it is so good. The grip he has on her thigh--you can see his fingers digging into her. So. Good.  

[Colonelkillabee]

oh goodness there is so much wrong in these posts, both yours and the other guy's

Go ahead and elaborate

[Aimi]

Have you seen the statue "The Rape of Proserpina" by.......I forget who it is by (Lorenzo something maybe) but oh my god it is so good. The grip he has on her thigh--you can see his fingers digging into her. So. Good.

 
Gian Lorenzo Bernini. Bernini's kind of a big deal.
 

Go ahead and elaborate

well it's based on a fundamental stereotypical nationalistic misreading of how non-Roman peoples actually worked

[Colonelkillabee]

 
Gian Lorenzo Bernini. Bernini's kind of a big deal.
 

well it's based on a fundamental stereotypical nationalistic misreading of how non-Roman peoples actually worked

Oh I see, yes I used the generic inaccurate stuff people learned because that's the easiest to put in song form

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

 
Gian Lorenzo Bernini. Bernini's kind of a big deal.

 

Yes! I had a mind blank. Thanks. 

[Aimi]

Oh I see, yes I used the generic inaccurate stuff people learned because that's the easiest to put in song form

I guess but still kinda awkward to refer to Arminius as a retort to a dude who was talking up the guy who wiped out Arminius' short-lived confederation

[Colonelkillabee]

I guess but still kinda awkward to refer to Arminius as a retort to a dude who was talking up the guy who wiped out Arminius' short-lived confederation

He fanboys over the romans in general. Seriously, anything bad against the romans gets him in a tizzy, and even though that's true, Arminius' damage was already done.

 

 

Yes! I had a mind blank. Thanks. 

Don't feel bad, I forget names all the time.

 

My first girlfriend's name was Valarie. Couldn't remember it for a week. Had to keep asking her mother behind her back, lol.

[Lady Artifice]

It's a "rough work," but also by Sandara, also depicting Hades and Persephone...

 

Spoiler

[shajs]

This. Topic. Why is there such a thing as this topic

 

whyyy

[Colonelkillabee]

This. Topic. Why is there such a thing as this topic

 

whyyy

Lol I think the on topic discussion's only like, what, 1/7th of the thread now,

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

It's a "rough work," but also by Sandara, also depicting Hades and Persephone...

 

Spoiler

 

She does such a good job! And as you said, the one Elu uses for his avi is amazing. I am so jelly of people with all this talent. I wish I could do something like this. 

[Aimi]

He fanboys over the romans in general. Seriously, anything bad against the romans gets him in a tizzy, and even though that's true, Arminius' damage was already done.

"damage" though

A bunch of Romans died, then a bunch of people who were not Romans died. That was his damage. Life went on, unaffected by Arminius' little war. Romans were incalculably more prosperous and powerful than the people on the other side of their frontiers. They regularly launched punitive expeditions over the Rhine and Danube that could not be countered. They enslaved countless people from over the frontier, they ensured that all tribes were led by their handpicked chiefs, they ensured that the rudimentary economies of those tribes were based entirely on Rome, and they took the pick of those tribes' fighting men for their own armies.

Arminius' victory in the Varian disaster mostly meant that those chieftains that Rome put into power wouldn't get to call themselves Roman citizens like the chieftains in Gaul and Britain did. Basically all the other modes of Roman control were still in place, and remained in place.

When Rome finally died in the West, it was because Romans killed it. The so-called "barbarians" were barely involved. And the kingdoms that eventually grew up in what used to be the Roman Empire bore no resemblance to the "barbarians" that allegedly birthed them, for the excellent reason that those "barbarians" didn't birth them in the first place. And even the "barbarians" that were involved with the fall of Rome had very little to do with each other, and essentially nothing to do with the people who had lived there in Arminius' time.

Arminius did not inflict a world-historical defeat on the Roman superpower. He did not presage Alareiks, Attila, or Odovacar. He was another tinpot warlord who fell victim to Rome's infinite men and infinite money like all the rest, except it took him longer to do so.

Rome sucked, but it sucked because of outrageous classism, dictatorship, patriarchy, slavery, unimaginable brutality in war, and the usual train of premodern diseases and famines that made life for average individuals so freaking awful. Other stuff is irrelevant, wrong, or entirely made-up.

[Lady Artifice]

Have you seen the statue "The Rape of Proserpina" by.......I forget who it is by (Lorenzo something maybe) but oh my god it is so good. The grip he has on her thigh--you can see his fingers digging into her. So. Good.  

 

I have seen that one, it's an intense piece. 

 

I can't remember where it's kept. For all I know it might have been at the met when I went, that trip is kind of a dizzy haze of joy in my memory. I only remember the details a few of the pieces specifically. 

 

Since now seems like as good an opportunity I'm going to get as any, here's more art stuff. 

 

Are you familiar with Felix Mas? He's a favorite of mine. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I have seen that one, it's an intense piece. 

 

I can't remember where it's kept. For all I know it might have been at the met when I went, that trip is kind of a dizzy haze of joy in my memory. I only remember the details a few of the pieces specifically. 

 

Since now seems like as good an opportunity I'm going to get as any, here's more art stuff. 

 

Are you familiar with Felix Mas? He's a favorite of mine. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

No! They are gorgeous! *jealousy intensifies* 

 

He does a fantastic job with the tones. I love how you can see the colour of their hair as the undertone of their skin.

[Colonelkillabee]

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I'll take the consolation prize of the germanics no longer being called Romans, even if they did indirectly exert their control over them in the end Better than most, and still got under rome's skin after their defeats.

[Lady Artifice]

Yeah can't stand Hera because of Hephaestus. I mean I get why she's a ****** and angry I'd be too if the person I was with screwed anything they could and had a bunch of kids running around the place but can't really give her slack for what she did to Hephaestus. Don't like Aphrodite that much either since I like Hephaestus quite a bit.

 

I used to actually wish she didn't get the Peacock as a symbol, because I thought she didn't deserve having such a cool one. Lol. 

 

You know, I still do like Aphrodite...but that's speaking through a kind of nostalgia. My obsession with Greek Myth began in the fourth grade. Everything was watered down, and Aphrodite was more like a Disney Princess in most of those stories. 

 

And then I found Eros and Psyche, where she wasn't and I loved it. My friend and I put on a play where she was Psyche and I was Aphrodite, and we cast our mutual crush as Eros. I loved playing the villain, which was a surprise to me. 

 

Good or bad, I still love Aphrodite. 

 

I do hate Ares, though. There was a depiction of the battle of Troy that had Athena kicking his butt.

 

I was like, "Yeah, you kick his butt, Athena."

[Aimi]

I'll take the consolation prize of the germanics no longer being called Romans, even if they did indirectly exert their control over them in the end Better than most, and still got under rome's skin after their defeats.

yeah but 'Germanics' weren't a Thing

whatever, you get what I'm saying

I do hate Ares, though. There was a depiction of the battle of Troy that had Athena kicking his butt.
 
I was like, "Yeah, you kick his butt, Athena."

The Diomedeia? She only kicked his butt by proxy.

[veeia]

I love checking in on this thread and seeing what the current topic of discussion is, like even sometimes when I'm waiting in line at the grocery store I click on it and learn something new about the Romans, or feel a pang of regret that I didn't read it earlier and see that recipe.

Do you guys think eventually we can overtake the Cullen thread? I mean everyone needs goals. And my goals are females everywhere!!??

[Colonelkillabee]

yeah but 'Germanics' weren't a Thing

whatever, you get what I'm saying
 

Lol yea I wouldn't make a very good history teacher because I gloss over details for convenience sake and to fit my narrative a bit better, like Varric And well, like most historians

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I love checking in on this thread and seeing what the current topic of discussion is, like even sometimes when I'm waiting in line at the grocery store I click on it and learn something new about the Romans, or feel a pang of regret that I didn't read it earlier and see that recipe.

Do you guys think eventually we can overtake the Cullen thread? I mean everyone needs goals. And my goals are females everywhere!!??

 

The Cullen thread is strong, it will never be defeated.  And it is 90% female already so.....mission accomplished? 

[Lady Artifice]

No! They are gorgeous! *jealousy intensifies* 

 

He does a fantastic job with the tones. I love how you can see the colour of their hair as the undertone of their skin.

 

Hah...the pose in the first one is similar to your avatar. 

[Colonelkillabee]

I love checking in on this thread and seeing what the current topic of discussion is, like even sometimes when I'm waiting in line at the grocery store I click on it and learn something new about the Romans, or feel a pang of regret that I didn't read it earlier and see that recipe.

Do you guys think eventually we can overtake the Cullen thread? I mean everyone needs goals. And my goals are females everywhere!!??

You mean females don't already control the Cullen thread??

[Colonelkillabee]

Actually, if females took over the Cassandra thread, I think it'd be a lot more fun....

[Grieving Natashina]

Actually, if females took over the Cassandra thread, I think it'd be a lot more fun....

That was the case, prior to her being revealed as straight.  Afterward, it seems to be pretty mixed as far as I can tell.