Er considering they state that's one of the things that enabled the elder one to take control of southern thedas. It would be silly not to take it seriously because IT IS a possible future. Hence why leliana started investigating clues to these events when you came back.
Which would be fine if I could bloody remember which clues she found out.
Yeah the time travel thing makes the mage route pretty unplayable to me.
There's only a few ways I tolerate time travel and the way BW did it is not one of them.
That is another problem for me, too -- not to the point of making the mage quest a no-go on its own, but it is one thing that definitely weighs in favor of going the templar route. The only case in which a time travel plot didn't annoy me (much) was in Star Trek IV -- in no small part due to that movie having a good deal of humor and not taking itself too seriousl, although the time travel itself was in response to a very serious situation.
Super-serious end-of-the-world time travel just loses me from the get-go.
Super-serious end-of-the-world time travel just loses me from the get-go.
Time travel is like the best thing ever! Doctor Who! Quantum Leap! Life on Mars! Back to the Future! Terminator!
I tried the templars once, just to see the quest, but it'll alwys be mages for me 
I find it pretty hard to justify siding with the templars when they're leader basically tells you to shove it right off the bat and the mages invite you over. I mean you'd have to either be seriously prejudiced against mages or for some reason have a great deal of faith in the templars to go with Champions (I mean it could work with humans but there is just so much stacked against templars).
It's not hard to justify at all.
Both sides can help you close the Breach; one by boosting your mark and the other by weakening the Breach itself.
Also, both sides practically tell you to go shove it when you first contact them.
Templars, though, are trained to fight magic and demons. The very things you need to deal with throughout the game. Also, unlike the mages who practically throw in their lot with your enemies, the Templars are being (unknowingly) corrupted by a demon and betrayed by their leaders.
Mages are brainwashed into submission as well, it is known.
Tevinter is not your enemy. Not unless you accept that the Inquisition is an Orlesian political organization which I don't. The mages are as unknowing about the intentions of the Venatori as the templars are about red lyrium, and moreso in fact since the templar leaders know exactly what they're doing.Templars, though, are trained to fight magic and demons. The very things you need to deal with throughout the game. Also, unlike the mages who practically throw in their lot with your enemies, the Templars are being (unknowingly) corrupted by a demon and betrayed by their leaders.
I find it pretty hard to think of Tevinter as anything other than an enemy of pretty much everyone, but I admit to being biased. 
The slave-trading, mages ruling, a competing faith with practices that go directly and deliberately against the general Chantry -- in many places, anyone who outs themselves as pro-Tevinter is probably committing a social faux pas at the least.
Dorian has his work cut out for him.
Tevinter is not your enemy. Not unless you accept that the Inquisition is an Orlesian political organization which I don't. The mages are as unknowing about the intentions of the Venatori as the templars are about red lyrium, and moreso in fact since the templar leaders know exactly what they're doing.
Every nation in southern Thedas dislikes Tevinter, not just Orlais. Alistair and Anora clearly aren't too happy with Fiona handing over Recliffe to a magister.
And Inquisition is certainly not an orlesian political organization, since Orlais doesn't even support you until after Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts is completed. Until that point, you only receive support from individual orlesian nobles and not the monarchy itself.
It's not hard to justify at all.
Both sides can help you close the Breach; one by boosting your mark and the other by weakening the Breach itself.
Also, both sides practically tell you to go shove it when you first contact them.
Templars, though, are trained to fight magic and demons. The very things you need to deal with throughout the game. Also, unlike the mages who practically throw in their lot with your enemies, the Templars are being (unknowingly) corrupted by a demon and betrayed by their leaders.
Templars tell you to shove it, Fiona at least offers to discuss an alliance when you meet her in Orlais. I mean the Templar mission begins with you and a bunch of Nobles going over to convince the Templars to help you.
Templars can kill demons, but Knight Enchanters Mages can kill everything . But they also can help the Inquisition in support roles like healing, enchanting, and arcane research (that's what your Mage/Tranquil staff and agents do).
I'm on the reverse side of the spectrum; I struggle to find a reason to side with the templars over the mages. Even ignoring my personal stance on preferring the time travel shenanigans over Cole's mind thing, and feeling that the "bad future" does a MUCH better job of emphasizing Celene's importance, let's look at this from a roleplaying perspective. The leader of the templars outright rejected me to my face, while I got an open invitation from the mages. Even if I was to pursue the templars, odds are that I would only get a fraction of them... a fraction that might not have as much effect on the Breach, if Cullen's hypothesis was even correct. "Magic stuff enhancing other magic stuff" seems like stuff mages can actually do, and they at least seem willing.
Also, I'm playing a dwarf Inquisitor. "I find myself connected to the Fade and can close holes in it. Who should I get to help me... the guys who actually know stuff about the Fade and manipulate it on a regular basis, or the uptight knights who ingest the hazardous materials I used to smuggle?" Seems like a no-brainer.
Yep, having really enjoyed the mage quest, I felt the templar side was surprisingly good.
Cole's introduction makes more sense, Dorian's introduction loses nothing, I get to kill Fiona, and the entire questline feels more personal (an attempt to take over Inquisitor).
Plus as one of my friends pointed out... there's the whole aspect of the mage quest that you win by losing :/ As in, your companions still die and suffer horribly, and you basically experience having your arse handed to you on a platter; no matter how much you succeed after that, you had to lose first. With the templars you just get it right first time.
Story wise I felt it made more sense because you show up to Redcliffe, realise the mages are already bought and owned by the Tevinter, and decide that's one nest you don't put your foot in.
As a mage I'd always pick the mage story but as a non mage I'd probably go templar every time.
Guess its just me but i found templars quest boring, especially that boss fight, kinda lacked epicness to me 
While mage quest kept me thrilled all allong, seeing your companions in such a state(esp Cassandra, what she says breaks my heart 
) My inquisitor was all like"Im not gonna let this future happen,Alexius beware of my wrath!!"Then i saw him and what he did to his son and all i felt is pity. And of course companions and Leliana sacrificing for you, i believe i even cried 
But yeah the introductions at Haven sucked, I fell in love with Dorian's "dont worry Im here,Ill protect you"line 
and Cole's introduction makes you really see him as kind spirit willing to help you.
Templars tell you to shove it, Fiona at least offers to discuss an alliance when you meet her in Orlais. I mean the Templar mission begins with you and a bunch of Nobles going over to convince the Templars to help you.
Templars can kill demons, but
Knight EnchantersMages can kill everything
Both sides tell you to shove it at first.
Leliana sends out messages to both Redcliffe and Trenefold Redoubt and both refuse to even meet with you.
Templars can also kill everything. Even without their powers they're among the best warriors in Thedas (as Cullen will tell you). Also, The inquisition has both mages and templars among it's numbers since it's foundation, so all the roles you mentioned are already covered even without the rebels from Redcliffe.
My character is Dalish- they're all her enemy. You're making alliances with all of them, even the unsavory ones.Every nation in southern Thedas dislikes Tevinter, not just Orlais. Alistair and Anora clearly aren't too happy with Fiona handing over Recliffe to a magister.
And Inquisition is certainly not an orlesian political organization, since Orlais doesn't even support you until after Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts is completed. Until that point, you only receive support from individual orlesian nobles and not the monarchy itself.
It's motivation from seeing what will happen if you lose.Plus as one of my friends pointed out... there's the whole aspect of the mage quest that you win by losing :/ As in, your companions still die and suffer horribly, and you basically experience having your arse handed to you on a platter; no matter how much you succeed after that, you had to lose first. With the templars you just get it right first time.
we got to see dorian in the red cliff chantry first, so a pre intro before we chose what mission we wanted... you could say that our trip to val royeaux was the pre intro for the templar quest... if so, it would have made some sense if we had met cole in val royeaux as they did dorian... and what made me wonder was when we first me cole in the envy demon's dream thing, our inquisitor says that we have met or seen him before somewhere, but cant remember... im all for the not remembering cole thing, but not even showing us that scene so the player can remember really felt disconnected to me...
as for which storyline i think fits better... well, i gotta go templars... yeah evil time magic rip the universe in half yadda yadda yadda is bad and all, but you only get the immediate benefits... the templar line ties into cassandra's personal quest to find the real lucius, you get a well written agent and future knight commander in ser barris, you get a well written nemesis with a decently written history in Calpernia (where we are just told the basics about samson, in case you dont remember da2), and the venatori attacking you in haven feels a lot more believable than a bunch of monsters in the red templars
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