Why not if I might ask? And yes youre right that it isn't anyones place to tell someone else who they can and cannot be with. But as Gamer072196 wrote many people out there uses god as an excuse to hate and/or beat down on homosexuals for just living their lives.
And right there is what upsets me the most. And the one of the many reasons why our laws are changing. To use religion like that is completely unacceptable.
Most of it come down to ignorance and immaturity, im not proud of this but when i was younger i used to be close minded about homosexuality, i didnt understand gay people nor did i care to it was easier to find them weird, granted i never made them feel worst about themselves still to dislike someone who hasnt done anything to you just because they are different .. it wasnt right, the turning point for me was when a friend of mine turned out to be gay , he was one of my best friends and i wasnt about to just ditch him because he happened to not share my preferences , i had to reevaluate some stuff and to this day he is still one of if not the best friend i have.
I know this isnt really reassuring but growing up i dont remember homosexuals being able to openly be who they are anywhere , be it the internet or real life , so i would say that while things still look bad , you guys have come a long way and it can only go uphill from here on out, keep your heads up.
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And right there is what upsets me the most. And the one of the many reasons why our laws are changing. To use religion like that is completely unacceptable.
You're contradicting yourself. If if wasn't your place to tell people what to do with their lives, you wouldn't be insulting them with your opinion like you just did.
You're contradicting yourself. If if wasn't your place to tell people what to do with their lives, you wouldn't be insulting them with your opinion like you just did.
I think they're saying that while they still follow their beliefs, they don't believe that they are one to say what people can and can't do with their lives.
They weren't insulting anyone by stating their opinion.
What I can't understand is what it is that people think is so damn offensive if they no longer have the "god" excuse.
They weren't insulting anyone by stating their opinion.
Wrong, I was insulted by their ignorance.
You're contradicting yourself. If if wasn't your place to tell people what to do with their lives, you wouldn't be insulting them with your opinion like you just did.
So you would just look the other way and let it happen right?
So you would just look the other way and let it happen right?
Let what happen?
Let what happen?
Uses god as an excuse to hate and/or beat down on homosexuals . (Has if it was actually happening in front of you)
They weren't insulting anyone by stating their opinion.
Wrong, I was insulted by their ignorance.
Wait, do you mean their original post on the last page? It wasn't really insulting, just realistic. Maybe they could've worded it differently, but they did have a point in that not everyone will be accepting of it. All we can hope for is that most people will be tolerant of it.
Wait, do you mean their original post on the last page? It wasn't really insulting, just realistic. Maybe they could've worded it differently, but they did have a point in that not everyone will be accepting of it. All we can hope for is that most people will be tolerant of it.
Yeah I had that coming .
I was only being honest.I sometimes forget that you can only be so honest on a forum.
Yeah I had that coming .
I was only being honest.I sometimes forget that you only be so honest on a forum.
At least this isn't an elf thread. If it was, the ADB and the Clique would be all over it.
Uses god as an excuse to hate and/or beat down on homosexuals . (Has if it was actually happening in front of you)
Alright I though you where refering to you not agreeing or accepting homosexuals you mentioned earlier I'm sorry for assuming the worst.
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Consider two different species of statements:
1. "I would rather be dead than gay" and/or "I would rather be dead than go to church" or general "Religious people/LGBT people are *insert preferred pejorative here*
2. "I think homosexuality is wrong because *reasons*" and/or "I think religion is problematic because *reasons*"
For me at least, the 1st species are infinitely more insulting and intolerant. The second just says you disagree and you have reasons why you disagree. The 1st says that the people you disagree with are disgusting and to be avoided; the magnitude of their error is such that they should be avoided rather like a mangy dog or a cockroach. Even it's it's *true* that you feel that way, it's still intolerant and rude to say it.
I think I, like most others, can openly accept that some people will admit to not accepting homosexuality (I won't say disagreeing, because that makes it out to be a debate and it isn't, some people are gay. The end.) but what I really wish they would do is, before expending their energy on holding an opinion against the different natures of people, is to sit down and have a really good think about WHY they can't accept it. I mean really, really think on the reasons, what they believe it will effect in their daily lives and on the world in general. And if they can truly come up with a better argument that "it's wrong", "It's against my religion" or "I think it's gross" well then, while I'll still disagree with their opinion, I may be less inclined to want to punch them in the face. Which is always something.
Uses god as an excuse to hate and/or beat down on homosexuals . (Has if it was actually happening in front of you)
oh ive seen it happen... to often to count. mostly on the 90s.
Isaid it before if they just said "i think its icky and it turns me off... well just the guys." as opposed to "My all powerull all loveing devine perfect omnipotent creator.. tells me its icky and wrong... so im allowed to be a jackass to you." id at least respect them
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I think I, like most others, can openly accept that some people will admit to not accepting homosexuality (I won't say disagreeing, because that makes it out to be a debate and it isn't, some people are gay. The end.) but what I really wish they would do is, before expending their energy on holding an opinion against the different natures of people, is to sit down and have a really good think about WHY they can't accept it. I mean really, really think on the reasons, what they believe it will effect in their daily lives and on the world in general. And if they can truly come up with a better argument that "it's wrong", "It's against my religion" or "I think it's gross" well then, while I'll still disagree with their opinion, I may be less inclined to want to punch them in the face. Which is always something.
Wanting to punch them in the face is understandable. It's the actual verbal or physical punching them in the face that becomes a problem. This is equally true with them too of course.
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Well if it that was obvious, no problems in this arena would ever arise. Clearly it's not. Or at least, it's hard to keep in sight. Usually because somebody points out how true this is *except* in their own case for *some reason* which usually boils down to "how angry/insulted/threatened I feel."
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Well if it that was obvious, no problems in this arena would ever arise. Clearly it's not. Or at least, it's hard to keep in sight. Usually because somebody points out how true this is *except* in their own case for *some reason* which usually boils down to "how angry/insulted/threatened I feel."
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In my experience it's 99% of humanity, including myself. It's not just on Youtube. This is why the whole discussion of "ridiculing religion" entered into this thread in the first place because it's *not* just a handful of stupid people on Youtube who lash out in fear/anger/offense/whatever. Otherwise, this whole thread wouldn't even exist.
"Some stupid people on Youtube did something I don't like" immediately morphs into a response of "Youtube is stupid - the people on it, the company that runs it, the people who made the policy that allowed it to happen, etc. etc., all of it-stupid" How is that not a generalizing response coming from emotion?
To be clear this thread and it's content doesn't actually bother me, but it does suggest that a lot more than stupids on Youtube have this response. We all have it, and we have to constantly check it. If my reminder of it seems officious and irrelevant, you are free to ignore it.
in all honisty its humanity thats stupid.
we are in the 21st century but we still have to worry about Holy wars.. from the bleeding bronze age.
over 3 itterations of the SAME GOD.
kids still get killed for being different.
idiots still try to get the evil science out of science class.. heck even history out of history.
fektards ar even trying to start a gender war in some cases.
its times like these that make me wish i wasnt human..or atleast not as smart as i am.
thats why in off to be come a gerbil.
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