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The Bright Hand - The Circle Thedas Deserves


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Some of you may be wondering what the Bright Hand is. It's the new Circle of Magi formed under Divine Victoria I (Cassandra) with the explicit purpose of avoiding or rectifying the mistakes that led to the Mage-Templar War.

 

Why 'the Bright Hand'? I believe it's named in honor of the Herald of Andraste who conscripted the mages into military service and showed the world that they could be more than sheltered researchers leashed to and who's every action is controlled by the Chantry.

 

After the defeat of Corypheus the Bright Hand uses it's alliance with the Inquisition to push for sorely needed reforms. As to what their purpose will now be... I imagine something akin to the Jedi Order. Neutral diplomats and peacekeepers with martial training focused on keeping stability in southern Thedas. Mages ill suited to fighting will join the Hand's medical and research corps.

 

As a result of the Bright Hand's creation malcontents unsatisfied with Victoria I's reforms and various maleficarum band together in opposition of this great order. They wage a war in the shadows 

 

I believe that this is the best possible ending for the mages. The Circle is still governed by the Chantry, but they have unprecedented autonomy and the responsibilities that come with it. No more cowering and complaining about oppression or rights. Time to contribute to Thedas and in turn earn the respect and admiration of the people.

 

As for what conditions are required for the Bright Hand ending... A couple of people are still working through it. So far what is known is that Cassandra becoming Divine and the conscription of the Circle of Magi are absolutely required. Some people believe it may also require a mage Inquisitor.


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Here are some screenies of said ending. 
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I prefer the College of Enchanters under Divine Leliana by allying with the mages, not conscripting them.


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I prefer the College of Enchanters under Divine Leliana by allying with the mages, not conscripting them.

 

Too Disneyland and not enough Dragon Age. That ending is almost lore breaking. And Bright Hand >>> CoE.


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I think the Mages should go back to their cells and be grateful to still be breathing.
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I think the Mages should go back to their cells and be grateful to still be breathing.

 

I think you should dive into a bottle of lyrium and never swim out tbh.


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Wow....I did not know such ending exist. Now, I'm considering going for this in my next play-through, but alas Ser Barris awesomeness and Templar's willingness to atone for their mistakes convince me that I should keep my pro-Templar play-through as canon. :P



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I imagine something akin to the Jedi Order. Neutral diplomats and peacekeepers with martial training focused on keeping stability in southern Thedas. Mages ill suited to fighting will join the Hand's medical and research corps.

 

OP, I love your comparison with the Jedi Order now that we have Lightsaber. I mean, Spirit Blade (am I the only one feeling like a Jedi while playing KE? I have 2 KEs just because of that...) :lol:

 

The idea is not bad actually, I remember Cullen mentionning the same thing in-game when you ask him how mages & templar should do now. He suggest mixed military unit like The Bright Hand or Healer's Clinic run by mages for more peaceful ones.

 

I really like the idea, but still it's prone to abuse. So... why not build something that is akin to partnership like 1 Mage/1 Templar working together as pair, complementing each other as equal instead of jailor/prisoner relationship? They're "paired" or something like that.

I mean, mages might lack physical power necessary & Templar always have abilities that mages can't have.


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I prefer the College of Enchanters under Divine Leliana by allying with the mages, not conscripting them.

I felt like that ending is disaster waiting to happen.


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I think you should dive into a bottle of lyrium and never swim out tbh.


o.o aren't you sweet.

To be honest though all these major reforms seem pretty lore breaking.

Especially in the same game were magic is more feared and reviled since the days of Andraste.

Course Bioware can hand wave the issue, make people feel comfortable with the Chantry abandoning the common people to play Tevinter two point oh.
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Wel well I didn't knew this ending existed.



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o.o aren't you sweet.

To be honest though all these major reforms seem pretty lore breaking.

Especially in the same game were magic is more feared and reviled since the days of Andraste.

Course Bioware can hand wave the issue, make people feel comfortable with the Chantry abandoning the common people to play Tevinter two point oh.

I actually got the tevinter 2.0 ending by accident. Shudders.



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o.o aren't you sweet.

To be honest though all these major reforms seem pretty lore breaking.

Especially in the same game were magic is more feared and reviled since the days of Andraste.

Course Bioware can hand wave the issue, make people feel comfortable with the Chantry abandoning the common people to play Tevinter two point oh.

 

Not really. I'll agree with you on Leliana's ending. But having mages be the core of the 'armies of the faithful' would certainly swing around people who were neutral on the issue. If then the Divine proclaims and recognizes the Inquisition as a legitimate power that further changes public opinion. It's only disastrous in Leliana's ending where mages are treated as normal people which they clearly aren't.



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Not really. I'll agree with you on Leliana's ending. But having mages be the core of the 'armies of the faithful' would certainly swing around people who were neutral on the issue. If then the Divine proclaims and recognizes the Inquisition as a legitimate power that further changes public opinion. It's only disastrous in Leliana's ending where mages are treated as normal people which they clearly aren't.

This. You can't pretend that they are normal its like ignoring the giant sparkling elefant made of flames in the room.



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o.o aren't you sweet.

To be honest though all these major reforms seem pretty lore breaking.

Especially in the same game were magic is more feared and reviled since the days of Andraste.

Course Bioware can hand wave the issue, make people feel comfortable with the Chantry abandoning the common people to play Tevinter two point oh.

 

I like it how you use Vivienne opinion as fact for Bioware lore. Mages have to save the world in order for that ending to happen, so you have to side with the mages. People see mages saving them from oblivion itself, fighting against crazed templars and more important not a SINGLE mage in Inquisition becomes an abomination or corrupt in general. You can slap this on a their face with a dialogue.

 

Thedas owns its freedom and fate to mages as well as Inquisition. Mages are respected more than ever. Unless you want to challenge the epilogue where it explicitly says the college of enchanters is working as intended.


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Not really. I'll agree with you on Leliana's ending. But having mages be the core of the 'armies of the faithful' would certainly swing around people who were neutral on the issue. If then the Divine proclaims and recognizes the Inquisition as a legitimate power that further changes public opinion. It's only disastrous in Leliana's ending where mages are treated as normal people which they clearly aren't.


It wasn't a debate point.

It's my opinion.

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So what's the condition to get this ending, I haven't finish my play-through where my Inquisitor conscript the Rebel Mages....so just conscript them, and support Cassandra to be the new Divine and that's it?



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I like it how you use Vivienne opinion as fact for Bioware lore.


It's common sense, that said were did I say fact, lore or bioware?

Must be headcannon.

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So what's the condition to get this ending, I haven't finish my play-through where my Inquisitor conscript the Rebel Mages....so just conscript them, and support Cassandra to be the new Divine and that's it?

There might also be that you have to be a mage yourself but I don't know yet Im going for this ending again in another playthrough so we'll see


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It's common sense, that said were did I say fact, lore or bioware?

Must be headcannon.

 

It isn't, I like how you ignored rest of my post. You claim people fear magic more than Imperium time while in fact mages are respected more than ever if you side with the mages. 


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So what's the condition to get this ending, I haven't finish my play-through where my Inquisitor conscript the Rebel Mages....so just conscript them, and support Cassandra to be the new Divine and that's it?

 

Still figuring that out. So far those are the 'must have' requirements. Other things might push it in that direction. I romanced Cassandra so my approval with her was maxed. I also used the Inquisition as a diplomatic power. 

 

The Inquisitor might also have to be a mage, but I'm not sure. For instance choosing the "I'll set an example for all mages" dialogue when the Herald becomes Inquisitor.


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This is great and all, but since Barris has to die for it to happen, and I'd have to do In Hushed Whispers, it's not even worth mentioning.
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It isn't, I like how you ignored rest of my post


Must be your head cannon acting up again.

Because there wasn't a post, just jumbled speculation.

Which I'm not surprised to see.

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Still figuring that out. So far those are the 'must have' requirements. Other things might push it in that direction. I romanced Cassandra so my approval with her was maxed. I also used the Inquisition as a diplomatic power. 

 

The Inquisitor might also have to be a mage, but I'm not sure. For example choosing the "I'll set an example for all mages" dialogue when the Herald becomes Inquisitor.

My approval with her was also pretty high but she wasn't romanced. My inquisition was a military power. I will do a secret veering rogue that supports cassandra as a divine but doesn't romance her and see if it matters. I will also support gaspard in WHWE just to spice things up.



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This is great and all, but since Barris has to die for it to happen, and I'd have to do In Hushed Whispers, it's not even worth mentioning.

 

I can take the Barris hit for Alexius, but not everybody likes him. Only reason I decided to go with Hushed Whispers as canon.