Maybe he'll appear in the next Mass Effect.
Lol, perhaps. Didn't you find it convenient that forces of Denerim arrive as soon as Dorian and you arrive and dispel the time magic? Its very unlikely for spies to not detect a Fereldan army approaching to Redcliff.
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Lol, perhaps. Didn't you find it convenient that forces of Denerim arrive as soon as Dorian and you arrive and dispel the time magic? Its very unlikely for spies to not detect a Fereldan army approaching to Redcliff.
Time dilation and relativity.
Lol, perhaps. Didn't you find it convenient that forces of Denerim arrive as soon as Dorian and you arrive and dispel the time magic? Its very unlikely for spies to not detect a Fereldan army approaching to Redcliff.
Time dilation and relativity.
That can be the case and what I said was merely a theory but since its time magic anything is possible, backed by the fact that reinforcements do not arrive at Redcliff if you side with Templars.
That's a bit of stretch and false comparison since there is no "for now" in that scenario and its not limited to one city. In months to come mages see unprecedented acceptance and its includes every corner of Thedas. In Redcliff, the city was raided by Templars and people of redcliff and mages both died in the attack. There were news and evidence of Templar attack (faked by Alexius). Literally every single person in Redcliff thinks Templars will attack, feel free to ask around this time or notice how the city guard are training for defense against another attack. Just because people in redcliff along with the mages lack the hindsight that you do which is there is no invasion and it was all planted/ a farce, you can't think this us a usual thing.
Also I find it funny that if you side with Templars teagan never reaches Denerim to come with reinforcements, cannot beat time magic, sorry. Teagan was probably trapped in an infinite loop.
There is always a "for now" in real life.
Tensions will sour again because the mages will do something stupid or the mages gain and exert influence and begin abusing their powers or even bring back Tevinter or there's an incident that leads to the college being destroyed or the nobility will attempt to tie the mages to them which leads to conflict or the people simply grow tired and demand action against the mages or Leliana chokes on a chicken bone and the new Divine is less lenient to mages or a thousand different things happen.
Bottom line, life in Thedas hasn't ended and even if we were to accept the ridiculous notion mages are accepted in every corner of the world(even, say, Anderfel where the Inquisition hasn't even stepped foot in) as anything other than contrived writing more appropriate for dreadful fanfiction than anything official, such "acceptance" will not last forever and we have no idea of the negative consequences that can and will come out of it.
Also, in the Templar side, Ferelden's army arrive to find the mages abandoned it along with the Venatori. Obviously, they were on their way to attack Haven.
There is always a "for now" in real life.
Tensions will sour again because the mages will do something stupid or the mages gain and exert influence and begin abusing their powers or even bring back Tevinter or there's an incident that leads to the college being destroyed or the nobility will attempt to tie the mages to them which leads to conflict or the people simply grow tired and demand action against the mages or Leliana chokes on a chicken bone and the new Divine is less lenient to mages or a thousand different things happen.
Or some bigoted, fear-mongering, power-hungry Andrastians will try oppress the mages again. Don't just isolate to one side of the equation.
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Or some bigoted, fear-mongering, power-hungry templars will try oppress the mages again. Don't just isolate to one side of the equation.
That's true..
Although the Templars have pretty much been given the smackdown in all endings. If they rise again to abusive levels, it's a longer road than mages.
That's true..
Although the Templars have pretty much been given the smackdown in all endings. If they rise again to abusive levels, it's a longer road than mages.
I corrected that to "Andrastians." Basically his post implies the mages would be and/or are at fault for everything that happens to them, as if systematic oppression and widespread ignorance and power-hungry, over-zealous factions weren't at any fault for the past and any potential future conflicts.
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I corrected that to "Andrastians." Basically his post implies the mages would be and/or are at fault for everything that happens to them, as if systematic oppression and widespread ignorance and power-hungry, over-zealous factions weren't at any fault for the past and any potential future conflicts.
Well, in any case, this is why I keep advocating Cass' Seekers. They'll help with all of this. Even destructive non-mages.
Or some bigoted, fear-mongering, power-hungry Andrastians will try oppress the mages again. Don't just isolate to one side of the equation.
I believe I had covered such in "nobles" but yes, normal people have their bad eggs too.
Altough, I would not use the word "oppress".
Well, in any case, this is why I keep advocating Cass' Seekers. They'll help with all of this. Even destructive non-mages.
The Seekers are indeed a force that could be of great use in purging corruption on both sides, especially with Cass in charge.
The Seekers are indeed a force that could be of great use in purging corruption on both sides, especially with Cass in charge.
If a kid become an Abomination in a town in the middle of nowhere, how will the Seekers react in time before dozens of people are dead.
If mages become more influential and wealthy than nobles, how will the Seekers move against.
Seekers, like Templars, help but Thedas shouldn't rely solely on them.
There is always a "for now" in real life.
Tensions will sour again because the mages will do something stupid or the mages gain and exert influence and begin abusing their powers or even bring back Tevinter or there's an incident that leads to the college being destroyed or the nobility will attempt to tie the mages to them which leads to conflict or the people simply grow tired and demand action against the mages or Leliana chokes on a chicken bone and the new Divine is less lenient to mages or a thousand different things happen.
Bottom line, life in Thedas hasn't ended and even if we were to accept the ridiculous notion mages are accepted in every corner of the world(even, say, Anderfel where the Inquisition hasn't even stepped foot in) as anything other than contrived writing more appropriate for dreadful fanfiction than anything official, such "acceptance" will not last forever and we have no idea of the negative consequences that can and will come out of it.
Also, in the Templar side, Ferelden's army arrive to find the mages abandoned it along with the Venatori. Obviously, they were on their way to attack Haven.
Funny you name Anderfels and try to justify it. Antivia will follow like it always have, Anderfels is very different. Nobles only control the capital, the rest of country is controlled by wardens. Everyone knows that. Rivain is pretty much pro-mage. Nevarra has been always more accepting and could easily follow leliana. Ferelden was already in brink of giving more rights to its mages before rebellion began. The only remaining nation is Orlais who is at the mercy of Inquisition.
The real bottom of the line without calling something that is against your ideal Thedas ridiculous is as long as there is Inquisition everything that happens in Leliana's epologue is completely possible and they already happen since the epilogue mentions months after her reign and everything seems fine.
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If a kid become an Abomination in a town in the middle of nowhere, how will the Seekers react in time before dozens of people are dead.
If mages become more influential and wealthy than nobles, how will the Seekers move against.
Seekers, like Templars, help but Thedas shouldn't rely solely on them.
Those are the situations where people are simply screwed. No other way around it.
When someone picks an ending like this though, they obviously thought the benefits outweigh these problems.
Same as other endings and their respective issues.
If a kid become an Abomination in a town in the middle of nowhere, how will the Seekers react in time before dozens of people are dead.
If mages become more influential and wealthy than nobles, how will the Seekers move against.
Seekers, like Templars, help but Thedas shouldn't rely solely on them.
There is a possibility that Templars will stop taking Lyrium in all endings, therefore they are useless and Seekers are the only ones who can help.
Seekers > Templars.
Also a kid became an abomination WITH the circles, in more than on instance, but guess what? In all of them the family thought the circle is too harsh and shameful so they didn't send the mage willingly. If Connor was in Tevinter, Isolde would gladly send her to Vyrantium circle for example to get taught on subject of magic. The circle did as much harm, you cannot deny it.
Also there is zero mention of mages getting any influence outside of their own society, its named "College of Enchanters" so the enchanter titles are back and its limited to mage society, not nobles.
There is a possibility that Templars will stop taking Lyrium in all endings, therefore they are useless and Seekers are the only ones who can help.
All the Templars don't stop taking lyrium. Just some of them. It's not even said to be significant.
Seekers > Templars.
And?
Also a kid became an abomination WITH the circles, in more than on instance, but guess what? In all of them the family thought the circle is too harsh and shameful so they didn't send the mage willingly. If Connor was in Tevinter, Isolde would gladly send her to Vyrantium circle for example to get taught on subject of magic. The circle did as much harm, you cannot deny it.
None of this was ever said.
Also there is zero mention of mages getting any influence outside of their own society, its named "College of Enchanters" so the enchanter titles are back and its limited to mage society, not nobles.
Mages will eventually expand their influence beyond the Tower, if it hasn't already. They live on limited supplies just like everyone else and will need to expand for resources.
Even in the templars stop taking lyrium slide it doesn't say they all stop taking it, there will still be rank and file templars
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Even in the templars stop taking lyrium slide it doesn't say they all stop taking it, there will still be rank and file templars
In Vivi's ending especially.. I think. Which makes me a little sad, but whatever. This is one of the downsides.
Funny you name Anderfels and try to justify it. Antivia will follow like it always have, Anderfels is very different. Nobles only control the capital, the rest of country is controlled by wardens. Everyone knows that. Rivain is pretty much pro-mage. Nevarra has been always more accepting and could easily follow leliana. Ferelden was already in brink of giving more rights to its mages before rebellion began. The only remaining nation is Orlais who is at the mercy of Inquisition.
The real bottom of the line without calling something that is against your ideal Thedas ridiculous is as long as there is Inquisition everything that happens in Leliana's epologue is completely possible and they already happen since the epilogue mentions months after her reign and everything seems fine.
Grand Cleric assassinated, magic feared more than ever, mages lynched in the streets.
Divine assassinated in the same manner, mages siding with Tevinter, Venatori, Corypheus, the mage rebellion, etc; people accepting mages.
Not forced to tolerate them, outright accepting? Hand holding, kumbaya my Maker?
An authentic Fairy Tale ending and you want to tell me that not only could this realistically happen but it can last?
I don't need to analyze each nation individually, altough I could. A basic understanding of people will tell you it's nonsense.
In Vivi's ending especially.. I think. Which makes me a little sad, but whatever. This is one of the downsides.
Cassandra's too. There is no reason for Templars to stop taking lyrium in that one.
All the Templars don't stop taking lyrium. Just some of them. It's not even said to be significant.
And?
None of this was ever said.
Mages will eventually expand their influence beyond the Tower, if it hasn't already. They live on limited supplies just like everyone else and will need to expand for resources.
With Leliana the Templar order is gone forever, so yes all of them go through the painful process of Lyrium withdrawal and if Cassandra reforms the seekers all of them join the seekers to continue their duties. Its the ending which ends up with highest number of recruits for seekers.
The child becoming abomination was about misterJB post who said a child becomes an abomination in middle of nowhere and I said how circles can be as harmful as they are useful. What are you on about exactly?
"eventually" You mean in my honest opinion, right? Because there is nothing indicating as such. Mages still cannot gain station, other than in their own institution.
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I don't need to analyze each nation individually, altough I could. A basic understanding of people will tell you it's nonsense.
Maybe we're still stuck in the fade and it's not even real. 
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"eventually" You mean in my honest opinion, right? Because there is nothing indicating as such. Mages still cannot gain station, other than in their own institution.
There is nothing indicating people with power will seek to increase it and gain influence over others?
Please take me to whatever planet you line on. Clearly, it's better than Earth.
Grand Cleric assassinated, magic feared more than ever, mages lynched in the streets.
Divine assassinated in the same manner, mages siding with Tevinter, Venatori, Corypheus, the mage rebellion, etc; people accepting mages.
Not forced to tolerate them, outright accepting? Hand holding, kumbaya my Maker?
An authentic Fairy Tail ending and you want to tell me that not only could this realistically happen but it can last?
I don't need to analyze each nation individually, altough I could. A basic understanding of people will tell you it's nonsense.
Siding with mages in DA2 shows that Meredith was mad with power and Lyrium both, she killed normal people who merely fed their mage friends who didn't want to reside in her prison and her harsh rules. So here you go, normal people supporting mages, even nobles, based on series of quests you get to help apostates.
if you side with mages, its them who close the breach, fight against a demon army without single one of them becoming an abomination, saving Thedas were Templars have turned their backs on it and have joined the enemy and finally defeating Corepheus when the chantry had zero part in all of this.
Feel free to criticize Bioware, but yes it does last and its their game so I'm gonna take their world over you and this is getting funny. As if you are mad because mages can finally get the treatment they deserved without utter paranoia and corruption. Its more believable than going to the old system which was the major reason behind this whole disaster. THAT is what people won't stand and hence Vivienne gets 3 major rebellions one after another.
With Leliana the Templar order is gone forever, so yes all of them go through the painful process of Lyrium withdrawal and if Cassandra reforms the seekers all of them join the seekers to continue their duties. Its the ending which ends up with highest number of recruits for seekers.
Never said, and even in Leliana's ending, Templars will find a way to get lyrium. They did during DA:I. You're in the land of Headcanon.
The child becoming abomination was about misterJB post who said a child becomes an abomination in middle of nowhere and I said how circles can be as harmful as they are useful. What are you on about exactly?
Where you started making up **** about how random peasant families thought the Circle was too harsh for their children and that Isolde would be happy with any Circle in Tevinter. Mostly because you made that information up on your own.
"eventually" You mean in my honest opinion, right? Because there is nothing indicating as such. Mages still cannot gain station, other than in their own institution.
Not, it's a fact. You run out of resources, you get more. If people aren't willing to part with them, you take them. That's how the world works, and unlike just about anything you've said so far, that won't be proven false.
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