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[dragonflight288]

But I suppose I'll have to side with the mages then? :/

 

Ugh, the thought of having to give in to Fiona.

 

You don't give in to Fiona to get the Bright Hand. You conscript the mages and Fiona out from under her. 

[thesuperdarkone2]

Actually, how the Inquisition is perceived is based on where you have the most perks. Its only a military organization if you place the most perks in Forces. Your inquisition can just as easily be secrets or connections based. Its even part of the epilogue slides!

Don't forget it's possible for it to be all 3. The Ultimate Inquisition!!!!

[MisterJB]

You don't give in to Fiona to get the Bright Hand. You conscript the mages and Fiona out from under her. 

 

Bah, she wasn't nowhere near as repentant enough. I mean, by the time we reached Skyhold, she had the gall to tell me "Conscription by the Inquisition" isn't all bad".

And I thought "Well thank you for telling me so. I shall endeavour to fix that."
 

Better to just kill her and crush her little rebellion at Haven.

[Lulupab]

As if we care if random BSNers find Leliana epilogues "unrealistic". The funny thing is you know absolutely nothing about how the college or bright hand operates, the only known thing is its working. So if you don't like Leliana's magi ending do not try to excuse it with justifications which are based on your bias and speculations and how you think people of Thedas will react to it.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Bah, she wasn't nowhere near as repentant enough. I mean, by the time we reached Skyhold, she had the gall to tell me "Conscription by the Inquisition" isn't all bad".

And I thought "Well thank you for telling me so. I shall endeavour to fix that."

 

You think that is the worst part? The worst part was when she said "I would it all over again" without any kind of remorse.

[MisterJB]

You think that is the worst part? The worst part was when she said "I would it all over again" without any kind of remorse.

 

Have her take a trip over what remains of the Hinterlands, hear the stories of the refugees and then feed her to the damned bears! That is what we should have done.

But the mage rebellion going down in history as having served one of the Seven Magisters who invaded Heaven will have to do.
 

[Lulupab]

You think that is the worst part? The worst part was when she said "I would it all over again" without any kind of remorse.

 

Murdering Lambert would have been the easier way I suppose, but she is absolutely right when she said something had to be done about it. Of course diplomacy was killed by Lambert as well so there is that. The game makes a great job at showing how corrupt and fallen Lambert and the seekers were and how they pulled down the system with them and while he is already dead, it puts many old arguments to rest over here.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Have her take a trip over what remains of the Hinterlands, hear the stories of the refugees and then feed her to the damned bears! That is what we should have done.

But the mage rebellion going down in history as having served one of the Seven Magisters who invaded Heaven will have to do.
 

Meanwhile for me, the mage rebellion would go down in history in aiding the Herald of Andraste seal the Breach and stopping Corypheus while the templars became corrupted monsters who killed innocent people and aided a darkspawn magister. I like my version better.

[Lulupab]

Meanwhile for me, the mage rebellion would go down in history in aiding the Herald of Andraste seal the Breach and stopping Corypheus while the templars became corrupted monsters who killed innocent people and aided a darkspawn magister. I like my version better.

 

Also deleting Templar order from Thedas and the fact that they will be forever remembered as vile traitors who used living people as Lyrium mines is much better ending.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Bah, she wasn't nowhere near as repentant enough. I mean, by the time we reached Skyhold, she had the gall to tell me "Conscription by the Inquisition" isn't all bad".

And I thought "Well thank you for telling me so. I shall endeavour to fix that."
 

Better to just kill her and crush her little rebellion at Haven.

 

So in other words, conscription isn't blood thirsty enough for you? I'm in favor of endings that avoid unnecessary bloodshed. I'd rather the mage rebellion ending in the Bright Hand rather than a massacre.

[Milan92]

You think that is the worst part? The worst part was when she said "I would it all over again" without any kind of remorse.

She didnt!

Well atleast that cleared up whatever remorse I had left for killing her.

[MisterJB]

Meanwhile for me, the mage rebellion would go down in history in aiding the Herald of Andraste seal the Breach and stopping Corypheus while the templars became corrupted monsters who killed innocent people and aided a darkspawn magister. I like my version better.

 

The fact you're answering me means you're bothered by what I did in my game whereas I couldn't possibly care less what you did in yours.

So, in the end, you're the one losing.
 

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Meanwhile for me, the mage rebellion would go down in history in aiding the Herald of Andraste seal the Breach and stopping Corypheus while the templars became corrupted monsters who killed innocent people and aided a darkspawn magister. I like my version better.

 

Futhermore, I like to think the few Templars that join Cullen instead would go on to form the core of Cass' new Seekers of Truth, which will uphold the ideas the Templar failed to do themselves.

[Barquiel]

The rebellion was absolutely necessary, Fiona is right about this. Cole's dialogue indicates that Lambert was on the best way to become Meridith 2.0.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

She didnt!

Well atleast that cleared up whatever remorse I had left for killing her.

 

Please don't take her words out of context.

 

Fiona is talking about rebelling in the first place, not about joining Alexias. That was mistake (and she says as much) but if given the vote again, she would still vote to break away from the chantry. Which i support.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

The rebellion was absolutely necessary, Fiona is right about this. Cole's dialogue indicates that Lambert was on the best way to become Meridith 2.0.

 

He wasn't on his way, he was there. He had a mage massacre planned out.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Have her take a trip over what remains of the Hinterlands, hear the stories of the refugees and then feed her to the damned bears! That is what we should have done.

But the mage rebellion going down in history as having served one of the Seven Magisters who invaded Heaven will have to do.
 

 

My reaction was more "Yeah, I think I am just going to take my magical time travel amulet and go back and recruit the templars again. Don't worry, Fiona, you'll still get your necessary and vital Tevinter alliance,"

[Steelcan]

The rebellion was absolutely necessary, Fiona is right about this. Cole's dialogue indicates that Lambert was on the best way to become Meridith 2.0.

Fiona was in no way right.  She forced Lambert's hand, forcing the mages, many of whom had no desire to leave, into a fight for their lives.  She had no concern for those who didn't agree with her and its quite frankly disgusting.

 

Forcing a rebellion, after the mages have voted repeatedly against it, is not representative of their collective desire.  She deserves to be made tranquil honestly, but I'll settle for just killing her at Haven

[Milan92]

The rebellion was absolutely necessary, Fiona is right about this. Cole's dialogue indicates that Lambert was on the best way to become Meridith 2.0.

And what about all those mages who didnt want the rebellion and died because that? Or does only Fiona's opinion matter

[MisterJB]

So in other words, conscription isn't blood thirsty enough for you? I'm in favor of endings that avoid unnecessary bloodshed. I'd rather the mage rebellion ending in the Bright Hand rather than a massacre.

 

I would settle for punishing Fiona.

She just doesn't give a damn how many people suffered since she incited this. She hands the freedom of her people that she claims to fight for over to Tevinter. She betrays the nation that gave her shelter. People were murdered and tortured and raped. Villages were pillaged. This war even gave Corypheus means of manipulating Templars and mages.

And what is her response?

 

"I'd do it all over."

 

Monster.

 

 

[Milan92]

Please don't take her words out of context.

Fiona is talking about rebelling in the first place, not about joining Alexias. That was mistake (and she says as much) but if given the vote again, she would still vote to break away from the chantry. Which i support.

Oh its about that.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Extra bit of news: Apparently if Vivienne becomes Divine, the Templar refuse to serve a mage and leave to form their own independent Order called the Silver Shield. Scumbag templars are scumbags

 

Templars remain scumbags and leave:

http://youtu.be/fdaT9hu0Vr0?t=13m30s

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

 

People were murdered and tortured and raped. Villages were pillaged.

 

Yeah, from what we learn in the hinterlands, most of that was done by the Templars hunting for any mage "sympathizers". The rebel mages just took food and mostly hid.

[Steelcan]

Yeah, by templars hunting for any mage "sympathizers". The rebel mages just took food and mostly hid..

and distributed propaganda about their inherent superiority to mundanes...

 

and shook down traders

 

Oh, and they hired mercenaries, if you are hiding, you don't bring in more people for the explicit purposes of fighting

[Barquiel]

He wasn't on his way, he was there. He had a mage massacre planned out.

I meant the "overthrow the divine" thing. With the seat of the viscount empty in Act 3, Meredith held all the power in Kirkwall. Lambert wanted to do the same. As for the mages...you're right, he was already there.