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[Milan92]

Mind telling me why a non-believing Inquisitor would agree to serve the Chantry? Cass, Vivienne, and Leliana never give any indication that we are now part of the Chantry and have to do whatever they say, it's more that the Inquisition is an independent power that helps out the Chantry but not actually part of the Chantry like the Templars. For instance, if the Inquisition was already part of the chantry as you claim, why do the Templars leave one part of the chantry to become part of the chantry? Don't forget we can tell the chantry mother who tells us about Leliana or Cass becoming divine to essentially screw off. Would we be able to say that if we were part of the chantry?

 

Its not so much as agreeing as it is simply doing it because otherwise they'll probably be declared heretics and then probably have to fend off both Orlais and Ferelden.

 

As soon as the Inquisition would start to become a threat then you can bet your ass most of Thedas will band against them.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Its not so much as agreeing as it is simply doing it because otherwise they'll probably be declared heretics and then probably have to fend off both Orlais and Ferelden.

 

As soon as the Inquisition would start to become a threat then you can bet your ass most of Thedas will band against them.

Cass and Leliana don't seem the type to essentially blackmail the Inquisition.

[LobselVith8]

And the Inquisition serves the Divine. You're not honestly one of those people that thinks otherwise, are you?

 

A comment that is explicitly contradicted by the Epilogues where the Divine isn't supported by the Inquisition.

[Addai]

And just like Congress agreeing with the President is not necessary for him to lead them, thus does this occur. The Inquisition is either going to serve the Divine like everyone else, or be heretical, leading to war. But as I doubt any approval based ending will transfer to the next game, I really don't care.

If we have the option, I intend to have my PC disband the Inquisition pronto. The hell she is going to serve the Chantry. The Inquisition served one purpose and that purpose is over as of Corypheus' defeat. They don't say so in the game because they want to sell DLC.

[LobselVith8]

Its not so much as agreeing as it is simply doing it because otherwise they'll probably be declared heretics and then probably have to fend off both Orlais and Ferelden.

 

As soon as the Inquisition would start to become a threat then you can bet your ass most of Thedas will band against them.

 

Cassandra and Vivienne can become Divine without being supported or aided by the Inquisitor, and the Inquisition is still powerful in it's own right as an independent organization. In fact, if Vivienne becomes Divine and is on bad terms with the Inquisitor, the Epilogue states: "Even so, this new Divine's reign is troubled, and signs of fracturing within the Chantry grow daily. Many believe its days are numbered."

[RobRam10]

It's a bit of a shame that the Inquisition cannot be integrated into the Orlesian Chantry.

 

After being built from the remnants of the latter, obtaining so much power and influence, having the option to conscript the Mages or Templars, and electing one from its ranks to become Divine, I was almost certain it would come to that.

What in the dark name of heresy am I reading?

[Hellion Rex]

It's a bit of a shame that the Inquisition cannot be integrated into the Orlesian Imperial Chantry

 

What in the dark name of heresy am I reading?

 

Better? lol

[Master Warder Z_]

Can you elaborate?

Don't mind the Tevinter roleplayer.

[Master Warder Z_]

I would hardly be surprised if half the magisters in the Imperial Chantry were backers of the Venatori.

I wouldn't be surprised either.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I would hardly be surprised if half the magisters in the Imperial Chantry were backers of the Venatori.

Isn't it implied that is the case?

[Br3admax]

A comment that is explicitly contradicted by the Epilogues where the Divine isn't supported by the Inquisition.

It's never explicitly said anywhere that the Inquisition doesn't serve the Divine. Everyone has to in one way or another. The Inquisitor not supporting the Divine would either lead to civil war, to change Chantry doctrine, or the elimination of the Inquisitor. Two religious heads are not going to just forget each other, but I guess the epilogue disregards those 4 exalted marches started on the subject. 

If we have the option, I intend to have my PC disband the Inquisition pronto. The hell she is going to serve the Chantry. The Inquisition served one purpose and that purpose is over as of Corypheus' defeat. They don't say so in the game because they want to sell DLC.

In a just world. 

[Kinsz]

At this point the Inquisition >>>>> the chantry. It's THE power in the south at the moment without a doubt, if anyone has to do some sucking up it wouldn't be the inquisitor.

[Lulupab]

I don't know about others, but the point I tried to make was the fact that Leliana does her thing, maintains unity then after all that claims that the Inquisition has full support of Chantry. She recognizes the power of Inquisition and its influence but she doesn't need it to do her duties as divine or maintain unity. Other candidates absolutely depend on Inquisition to succeed and they utterly fail without it (not high enough approval with the Inquisitor).

 

Otherwise anyone denying the power and influence of Inquisition on everything on the south is in denial.

[Kinsz]

I don't know about others, but the point I tried to make was the fact that Leliana does her thing, maintains unity then after all that claims that the Inquisition has full support of Chantry. She recognizes the power of Inquisition and its influence but she doesn't need it to do her duties as divine or maintain unity. Other candidates absolutely depend on Inquisition to succeed and they utterly fail without it (not high enough approval with the Inquisitor).

Otherwise anyone denying the power and influence of Inquisition on everything on the south is in denial.

There is a Leliana ending that has her failing as well though , I can't remember if that had anything to do with Inqusition support or not I have to check the vid again but yes the Inquisition is the major player in the south , heck we had everyone in our pocket by the end of the game , even a possible alliance with the Qunari.

[Lulupab]

There is a Leliana ending that has her failing as well though , I can't remember if that had anything to do with Inqusition support or not I have to check the vid again but yes the Inquisition is the major player in the south , heck we had everyone in our pocket by the end of the game , even a possible alliance with the Qunari.

 

I really need to see that vid because I was going to post a guide on how to make your candidate the divine and I shouldn't miss anything.

[Kinsz]

I really need to see that vid because I was going to post a guide on how to make your candidate the divine and I shouldn't miss anything.

I'll see if I can find it in a bit but I believe the superDarkOne had it in a thread he started a couple of days discussing the Templars refusal to serve Vivienne because they don't want to answer to a mage Divine.

[mrcrazyman]

There is a Leliana ending that has her failing as well though , I can't remember if that had anything to do with Inqusition support or not I have to check the vid again but yes the Inquisition is the major player in the south , heck we had everyone in our pocket by the end of the game , even a possible alliance with the Qunari.

 

It happens if you skip her personal quest

 

Spoiler

[Kinsz]

It happens if you skip her personal quest

Spoiler

Ah ok thanx, I guess that's her version of " low approval "

[Lulupab]

Well she still doesn't depend on Inquisition.

[leaguer of one]

If we have the option, I intend to have my PC disband the Inquisition pronto. The hell she is going to serve the Chantry. The Inquisition served one purpose and that purpose is over as of Corypheus' defeat. They don't say so in the game because they want to sell DLC.

That not the purpose I see the inquisition. That dark future still can happen. I just want to make sure we don't get into that mess of in fighting and zelot war that lead to it all happening.

[dragonflight288]

It's a bit of a shame that the Inquisition cannot be integrated into the Orlesian Chantry.  

 

After being built from the remnants of the latter, obtaining so much power and influence, having the option to conscript the Mages or Templars, and electing one from its ranks to become Divine, I was almost certain it would come to that.

 

Ummm....exactly what game did I play that made it clear the Inquisition was formed out of the remnants of the Orlesian Chantry? I played a game where the remnants of the Chantry declared me and all my followers heretics, I had templars arguing what they should do in front of the gates of Haven, and I had to build up the Inquisition from nothing but a few volunteers into a world-spanning military, political and secret-grabbing power. 

 

A Seeker who is considered a traitor to her order by the other Seekers, a bard, an ex-templar and an antivan/orlais diplomat and some scattered volunteers do not make up the remnants of the Chantry.