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[LobselVith8]

It's never explicitly said anywhere that the Inquisition doesn't serve the Divine. Everyone has to in one way or another. The Inquisitor not supporting the Divine would either lead to civil war, to change Chantry doctrine, or the elimination of the Inquisitor. Two religious heads are not going to just forget each other, but I guess the epilogue disregards those 4 exalted marches started on the subject. 

In a just world. 

 

There are, quite literally, different Epilogues for when the Inquisitor doesn't support Cassandra or Vivienne as Divine, so I don't even see how you're trying to seriously argue otherwise. The Inquisitor isn't beholden to the Chantry, and during the narrative, the Inquisitor even points out to Giselle that the organization doesn't serve the Chantry (during the confrontation about Dorian).

 

Furthermore, there's no indication that the Inquisition is no longer an independent organization once a new Divine is elected. In my previous post, I provided an example about how the Andrastian Chantry suffers under Vivienne's leadership when the Inquisition doesn't support her. Clearly, the Inquisitor doesn't have to support the Divine.

[Addai]

That not the purpose I see the inquisition. That dark future still can happen. I just want to make sure we don't get into that mess of in fighting and zelot war that lead to it all happening.

An army without a purpose will find a war even if there is none. The Inquisition has no purpose after Corypheus' defeat.

[Master Warder Z_]

An army without a purpose will find a war even if there is none. The Inquisition has no purpose after Corypheus' defeat.

We are in agreement.

[LobselVith8]

You can finagle and fanwank all the justifications you want. The Inquisition is a prosthetic limb of the Chantry created by the Right and Left Hands of the Divine. To say that they aren't is pretty naive or dense.

 

It's incredibly silly to call it a 'fanwank' when the main character, as the Inquisitor, literally says that the Inquisition doesn't serve the Andrastian Chantry.

 

The fact that Cassandra and Leliana created the Inquisition doesn't mean it's beholden to the Chantry of Andraste - it's an independent organization, and even the Epilogues address what can happen if the Inquisitor doesn't support the Divine.

[Hellion Rex]

An army without a purpose will find a war even if there is none. The Inquisition has no purpose after Corypheus' defeat.

Begs the question of what happens next, cause I absolutely agree with your assertion.

[dragonflight288]

You can finagle and fanwank all the justifications you want. The Inquisition is a prosthetic limb of the Chantry created by the Right and Left Hands of the Divine. To say that they aren't is pretty naive or dense.

 

Both of whom are declared heretics by the remaining Grand Clerics and Revered Mothers. 

[TEWR]

It's incredibly silly to call it a 'fanwank' when the main character, as the Inquisitor, literally says that the Inquisition doesn't serve the Andrastian Chantry.

 

The fact that Cassandra and Leliana created the Inquisition doesn't mean it's beholden to the Chantry of Andraste - it's an independent organization, and even the Epilogues address what can happen if the Inquisitor doesn't support the Divine.

 

It would however be fair to say the Inquisition will be very much influenced by Chantry dogma/beliefs/etc, being that many of its members are among the faithful Andrastians.

 

It's not beholden to the Chantry (it would've been if Justinia had lived) but it's not entirely devoid of the Chantry's mark upon it either.

[TEWR]

An army without a purpose will find a war even if there is none. The Inquisition has no purpose after Corypheus' defeat.

 

Qunari invasion of Thedas which is pretty much imminent. Iron Bull tells you his people were concerned if they had to invade now to put a stop to the threat, Sten tells Alistair that the Qunari are merely waiting, etc.

 

They've got a purpose. The only question is whether the Inquisition will be smart enough to see it.

[Ryzaki]

Wait what?

 

Oh come on now. The game goes on and on about how the Inquisition isn't beholden to the Chantry. That's actually in question?

[Addai]

Qunari invasion of Thedas which is pretty much imminent. Iron Bull tells you his people were concerned if they had to invade now to put a stop to the threat, Sten tells Alistair that the Qunari are merely waiting, etc.

 

They've got a purpose. The only question is whether the Inquisition will be smart enough to see it.

So you're going to wait around for the Qunari to do something stupid? No.

[Master Warder Z_]

So you're going to wait around for the Qunari to do something stupid? No.

Indeed it will be Gaspard, Markus and Radonis that lead Thedas against the Oxmen not the Herald.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Indeed it will be Gaspard, Markus and Radonis that lead Thedas against the Oxmen not the Herald.

How can a corpse lead anything? Silly Warder, Gaspard is for the foolish.

[RobRam10]

It will be Radonis who will leads us to victory against the savage Qunari.

[LobselVith8]

It would however be fair to say the Inquisition will be very much influenced by Chantry dogma/beliefs/etc, being that many of its members are among the faithful Andrastians.

 

It's not beholden to the Chantry (it would've been if Justinia had lived) but it's not entirely devoid of the Chantry's mark upon it either.

 

Which are two entirely different things. My point was that the Inquisition doesn't serve the Chantry of Andraste. I don't dispute that some of the people in the Inquisition follow the Andrastian faith; the fact that some of the soldiers are Andrastian is why they think the protagonist is the Herald of Andraste, even if the main character is a Dalish elf who believes in the Creators, and why they followed the Inquisition in the first place despite the Chantry claiming that it was a heretical organization.

 

Qunari invasion of Thedas which is pretty much imminent. Iron Bull tells you his people were concerned if they had to invade now to put a stop to the threat, Sten tells Alistair that the Qunari are merely waiting, etc.

 

They've got a purpose. The only question is whether the Inquisition will be smart enough to see it.

 

Not necessarily. If the Inquisitor allies with the Qunari, it's mentioned that the Qunari are reconsidering their view on alliances and non-Qunari, as well as contemplating making the entire Inquisition basalit-an; it also seems like either Tallis or Iron Bull may become the next Arquin. It's possible that a Qunari invasion isn't imminent at all.

[Master Warder Z_]

It will be Radonis who will leads to victory against the savage Qunari.

If he isn't stabbed in throat in the proving arena in front of the entire capital by former a General turned slave.

[Augustei]

An army without a purpose will find a war even if there is none. The Inquisition has no purpose after Corypheus' defeat.

Yours maybe, Mine'll be crushing the uprisings, performing the needed purges against the enemies of Divine Vivienne and Emperor Gaspard. Then theres all those other Thedosian nations I don't exert enough influence over yet.

 

If he isn't stabbed in throat in the proving arena in front of the entire capital by former a General turned slave.

 And now I want to watch Gladiator

[Master Warder Z_]

And now I want to watch Gladiator

A Archon meeting a Slave in a duel.

That'd be quite the spectacle.

[Boost32]

A Archon meeting a Slave in a duel.

That'd be quite the spectacle.

If DA4 is located in Tevinter, I was going to finally make a mage character, and now, thanks to you, I will need to do a Warrior. You are a bad person =/.

[Master Warder Z_]

I honestly think if anything like that ever even vaguely that happened it would shake the Imperium to it's very core.

A non mage, a slave even killing an Archon in single combat.

[Boost32]

I honestly think if anything like that ever even vaguely that happened it would shake the Imperium to it's very core.

A non mage, a slave even killing an Archon in single combat.

I think it would only be better if we killed the Black Divine too, the 2 most powerful mages, falling at the hands of a mundane slave would be glorious.

[Augustei]

I honestly think if anything like that ever even vaguely that happened it would shake the Imperium to it's very core.

A non mage, a slave even killing an Archon in single combat.

Well the office of the Archon is to weak for it to really matter if he did something extremely weaksauce like "No more Emperors, all power to the Senate" Like that pleb Maximus did.
Damnit Maximus there was still some good ones to come!

[Master Warder Z_]

Well the office of the Archon is to weak for it to really matter if he did something extremely weaksauce like "No more Emperors, all power to the Senate" Like that pleb Maximus did

I meant in the implication.

[Augustei]

I meant in the implication.

Oh yeah, won't dispute that. The look on the Magisterium's face alone would be priceless. But it would likely have some far reaching consequences.