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[RobRam10]

Do it! For Alexius!

The True God of Thedas

[TEWR]

The True God of Thedas

 

He will raise Tevinter up from its ashes, like a phoenix born anew from within holy fire.

 

 

Alexius creeps me out. Looks like an old Christian Bale in American Psycho.. in a jester hat.

 

Well now I'm imagining Alexius in a raincoat

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

College of rabble rousing whiny Enchanters is a disaster doomed to fail. At least the Bright Hand is an accepted, autonomous order of badasses operating from the Chantry hierarchy. The questionable name is another issue, but it makes sense given that the Herald of Andraste is their inspiration.

 

But the bright hand sounds like the title of a bad porno..........

 

Regardless, if a latter DLC/expansion shows that will can keep our romance even after Cassandra becomes Divine then I'll consider the bright hand ending.

 

But there are other benefits to Leliana that make me support her. Such as accepting all races and genders into the chantry.

[MisterJB]

Bright Hand sounds lame. The college of enchanters is pretty much what the circles were......without using the name "the circle". To me it implys that this new college operates in the same way as the old one, just without templars being their jail wardens.

 

If there is no one enforcing it, there's no way these colleges can be effective.

 

[TEWR]

But the bright hand sounds like the title of a bad porno..........

 

 

I wonder if the glow can be seen from wherever the hand is in this porno....

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

With this ending, I can almost imagine the scene where the protagonist of DA4 talks with his mentor.

 

[Mentor hands his spirit blade hilt]

Mentor - "Not as clumsy or as random as a crossbow... [Hero activates blade] ... An elegant weapon for a more civilzed age.

[MisterJB]

Out of curiosity, what does a pro-mage Hawke's codex entry says?

I know the pro-Templar one was written by a mage where he accuses Hawke of validating the Templars and thus the Champion should be silent.

[Ieldra]

Don't know what world you live in, but yeah, that's how the world works. It my flux from time to time, but there is always a dominate force, and it gets there by power and influence. That won't ever change. 

If you look at the world and see one faction dominating everything, I question your powers of perception.

[madzilla84]

I had a slightly different ending to this, presumably because I allied with the mages - Cass was Divine, she reforms the Circles (and the Templars) but the Inquisition's mages form the College independently. I'm not sure exactly how this works - can mages choose which one to join? Will the College expect protection from the Inquisition? Etc. But it doesn't sound terribly stable... Not that any of them do.

[Ieldra]

Just can't bring myself to to do the mage quest, since I run Cass in my party at all times.. and she gets an amulet of power at the Templar quest. I care about what optimizes the game as I'm playing it too much. Not the epilogues. That's about as important as the "Silver Order" from DAA. I also don't care to "set an example for mages" per se. I fight for faith.

And I fight for skepticism...

[Ieldra]

I had a slightly different ending to this, presumably because I allied with the mages - Cass was Divine, she reforms the Circles (and the Templars) but the Inquisition's mages form the College independently. I'm not sure exactly how this works - can mages choose which one to join? Will the College expect protection from the Inquisition? Etc. But it doesn't sound terribly stable... Not that any of them do.

Yep, that's what you get if you ally with the mages and have Cassandra as the Divine. How exactly that works is left to our imagination for now. I think my Inquisitor would tell the Enchanters: if the Chantry tries to lean on you, I'll support you, but otherwise: deal with it. You're independent now, and it's your responsibility to show the world you're better than the alternative.

[wright1978]

Personally the bright hand ending isn't something that i view as ideal or desirable.

Thedas needs a clean break from the failed structure rather than renewing the same old cycle..

Right now my preference is for the clean break which the College of Enchanters Lely or Cassandra ending provides. Though right now there's no detail to judge details like enforcement other, just the news of its initial success.

[Aramintai]

I find it funny that some fans here are so onto centuries old Chantry dogma about how magic is bad, should serve man etc. and would never even consider having a thought that mages are human beings too and that they at least deserve a chance at freedom. From my point of view it is not wrong of mages to want to be free, it's the Chantry that is just wrong. Making poor Templars sad lyrium addicts and total wrecks if they quit, locking people in Circles just because they can shoot a fireball out of their ass, allowing such cruelties as Rites of Annulment and Tranquility and in huge part being responsible for spreading the opinion in general masses that magic is bad and to be feared. So I'm up for any Divine that fixes the Chantry itself first.


I've read many fantasy books and most of them never had this cruel treatment of mages, even in the Witcher books series, and boy, is it full of bigotry towards anyone who is not a common human. In most fantasy settings mages usually are a reclusive minority that although powerful and dangerous to some, as a whole also are wise and not abusive of their power. So I believe in those references - mages can have their own institution that they can self govern, I think they at least deserve that chance after helping the Inquisition. And if anyone wants to give me the "ticking bomb" crap I'd just point out that wars waged with common human hands are thousand fold more devastating than occasional abomination setting some houses on fire. Just look at Celene vs. Gaspard squabble in the Dales.


I'm willing to give them a chance and am eager to see what becomes of that choice in the next installment of the franchise. If BioWare decides mages will turn bad and everything should return back to square one then so be it, I'll pay the consequences, but will be dissapointed. But if they will not then kudos to Bioware for not making this a pointless bad choice everyone will retcon in DA: Keep later on.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Because I'm not limited to liking one faction. This isn't football. I'm a fan of Tevinter and the Qunari for different reasons. Only nation I actively dislike are the Orlesians.

 

I like Tevinter, hate Qunari, and support Ferelden. Why must I help save the Orlesian empire again?

 

Did you miss the part where Cassandra is pissed Varric doesn't go to the Chantry because he's a dwarf. Difference is Leliana is "ACCEPT QUNARI, DWARVES, AND ELVES!!!" and Cassandra is "we are all the Maker's children."

 

Pretty ironic when you consider their temperaments. And besides Cassandra being the only candidate endorsed by Giselle told me everything I needed to know. 

 

Unhardened Leliana ends up far more diplomatic than her harden self and I meant that Leliana lets both genders and all race join the clergy and its higher positions. Which is not mentioned with Cassandra so I assume she leaves the structure of the clergy alone.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Out of curiosity, what does a pro-mage Hawke's codex entry says?

I know the pro-Templar one was written by a mage where he accuses Hawke of validating the Templars and thus the Champion should be silent.

 

It is a speech from a Knight-commander with her audience being her fellow templars attending the conclave. She is actually rather sympathetic to Hawke and is understandable for why he decided to defend the mages. She even states that Meredith's right of annulment was unjust.