He wasn't going to throw away resources. He's neutral asfu about most things including the Qunari and Tevinter. Corypheus was the most pressing issue and he wasn't about to turn down help. It's as simple as that. Think a Circle Mage non-immortal version of Solas and the perceptions that shape that view point.
I don't know about that. Considering how conservative your mage sounds, he and Solas are likely to come to blows in future games.
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He wasn't going to throw away resources. He's neutral asfu about most things including the Qunari and Tevinter. Corypheus was the most pressing issue and he wasn't about to turn down help. It's as simple as that. Think a Circle Mage non-immortal version of Solas and the perceptions that shape that view point.
The slavery turned me off tbh. Not the jester hat.
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Personally the bright hand ending isn't something that i view as ideal or desirable.
Thedas needs a clean break from the failed structure rather than renewing the same old cycle..
Right now my preference is for the clean break which the College of Enchanters Lely or Cassandra ending provides. Though right now there's no detail to judge details like enforcement other, just the news of its initial success.
If you think the Bright Hand is a renewal you're mistaken. Even Vivienne's hardline conservative stance isn't a renewal.
All this 'everyone but Leliana is wrong' smacks of 'Freedom and Anarchy for Everyone!'. There's a reason that choosing "the Chantry must die" options earns Leliana points.
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I don't know about that. Considering how conservative your mage sounds, he and Solas are likely to come to blows in future games.
I had higher approval with Solas than Cassandra and she was my love interest. How terribly conservative my mage is...
I don't know about that. Considering how conservative your mage sounds, he and Solas are likely to come to blows in future games.
TDKR? Conservative? ROFLMAO.
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If anything, I'm the conservative here. And I wouldn't mind coming to blows with Solas. Decent chap.... but I hate his ideas.
I had higher approval with Solas than Cassandra and she was my love interest. How terribly conservative my mage is...
Anything that is used to dissolve old systems and start everything anew displeases you. While Solas character seems to be pretty much leading to the "I will change everything in the world, whatever it takes" path. Approval doesn't mean much. My warden constantly told to Alistair how much he hated being an warden and yet he ended the game with 100 approval. What matters are Solas future actions, and I doubt they will match with what you want.
If anything, I'm the conservative here. And I wouldn't mind coming to blows with Solas. Decent chap.... but I hate his ideas.
He's an Elven God ofc your not going to like his ideas.
TDKR? Conservative? ROFLMAO.
The world ceases to make any sense now. lol
All of these endings seemingly work. That's what I get out of it.
Just pick your favorite narrative.
Indeed. And that's what I love about it. After ME3, I recall posting "Why can't we have a choice between several *good* outcomes for a change, where the choice I make is influenced mainly by the ideological predispositions I roleplay for my character? Why must an ending always be mainly defined by its downside?"
The DA team apparently decided that's a good idea. So we have it. None of the outcomes is perfect but they're all mostly good. For now at least. And I love it.
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He's an Elven God ofc your not going to like his ideas.
Nah. I like Andruil. Sylaise. June.
Don't have anything against Flemeth either... so far.
Nah. I like Andruil. Sylaise. June.
Don't have anything against Flemeth either... so far.
I'm surprise you like Andruil Street I didn't think you would were the type to worship a sadistic God
It's too bad we can't really talk with Fiona about what she wants to do exactly.
If I remember correctly the College of Enchanters is more focused on research , I think it's great.
But I don't see why it can't coexist with the Circles.
With Leliana ending I have no idea what's going on with mages , I mean ?
What about young mages?Who is giving them an education?
What about maleficar who's dealing with that now?
Don't tell me the free mages are able to do that , we saw what happened in Redcliffe .
Fiona take a bad decision , 80% of the mages disagree with her , no one is doing anything.
They just stand there.
There's fighting out of Recliffe walls , people who needs some healer etc...nope they stay inside the walls and don't do anything .
Oh and they didn't even notice their tranquils were being butchered....
It's not giving much hope for the future.
I thought they would come through with the Inquisition and they help you close the Breach , but most of the war table mission you get , is rescuing mages left and right.
Fiona is there at Skyhold , she doesn't give a crap , doesn't ask you how she can help , she keeps on telling you "I hope we'll get our freedom blablabla".
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I'm surprise you like Andruil Street
Well, not her whole story. She's the Huntress archetype though. That's cool enough.
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It's too bad we can't really talk with Fiona about what she wants to do exactly.
If I remember correctly the College of Enchanters is more focused on research , I think it's great.
But I don't see why it can't coexist with the Circles.
With Leliana ending I have no idea what's going on with mages , I mean ?
What about young mages?Who is giving them an education?
What about maleficar who's dealing with that now?
To me, some of that has upsides. You might have free mages, but many of them will suck and uneducated. Or be limited hedge mages. And then there will still be a strong element of Seekers around (if you choose). It's not the nightmare scenario some make it out to be.
Indeed. And that's what I love about it. After ME3, I recall posting "Why can't we have a choice between several *good* outcomes for a change, where the choice I make is influenced mainly by the ideological predispositions I roleplay for my character? Why must an ending always be mainly defined by its downside?"
The DA team apparently decided that's a good idea. So we have it. None of the outcomes is perfect but they're all mostly good. For now at least. And I love it.
I would have been fine with it had one of the endings not been so insulting [looks at unhardened Leliana as divine].
I'm surprise you like Andruil Street I didn't think you would were the type to worship a sadistic God
Sadistic female god? Check. Worshipping said god? check.
Yup, BDSM scenarios for the win.
as one can probably tell, the lack of sleep is killing my boundaries. Stupid ****** 2 hour delay for my little brother. School should've just been canceled. But nooooo I gotta stay up and put him on the bus *grumble*
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I'm surprise you like Andruil Street I didn't think you would were the type to worship a sadistic God
You edited. She goes crazy later. She's just a huntress at first.
With Leliana ending I have no idea what's going on with mages , I mean ?
What about young mages?Who is giving them an education?
What about maleficar who's dealing with that now?
I'm thinking it being named a College it's gonna be sorta like Hogwarts, lol. Where children are sent to be educated in ways of magic and adult scholars can have their researches in peace and quiet among colleagues, like university. There were always mages in Circles who taught young ones, so this will be no different (exept for the lack of watch dogs). And by not being a Circle prison to be feared parents will probably willingly give their children there, maybe even some apostates will join. It'd also be logical for them to have a recruiting branch. And as for maleficars and abominations - same story, the College will have a branch that specifically deals with those. So I don't see a problem here, unless BioWare decides that it was too ballsy to give mages a chance and turns them all into abominations in the next installment.
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Anything that is used to dissolve old systems and start everything anew displeases you. While Solas character seems to be pretty much leading to the "I will change everything in the world, whatever it takes" path. Approval doesn't mean much. My warden constantly told to Alistair how much he hated being an warden and yet he ended the game with 100 approval. What matters are Solas future actions, and I doubt they will match with what you want.
Not true. I'm just not an extremist.
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Solas' vision for the world just sounds like DA's equivalent of ME3 Synthesis.
So yeah... I'd love to see a real conflict about that. I have plenty of hate in waiting.
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Solas' vision for the world just sounds like DA's equivalent of ME3 Synthesis.
So yeah... I'd love to see a real conflict about that. I have plenty of hate in waiting.
Like I said before Street
too much magic = catastrophe
no more magic = catastrophe
I agree with Solas on many things, but if his intention is to tear down the Veil completely then that's not one of them.
Like I said before Street
too much magic = catastrophe
no more magic = catastrophe
I agree with Solas on many things, but if his intention is to tear down the Veil completely then that's not one of them.
That depends on what a lack of a Veil might do to spirits. Solas' comments indicate that spirits react to the perceptions of those around them, which would account for a lot. Anders back in Awakening didn't have a sense of justice in his heart but vengeance, taking delight in the deaths of his Templar guards and wishing he could kill Templars at will. Back then, though he was joking, it was dark humor (he was a sad clown).
Then there's also the idea that passing through the Veil and into the mortal world has a drastic effect on the nature of a spirit, driving them mad and causing them to become Demons.
I'm not saying I agree with Solas' stance just yet.... but I can't say there isn't some evidence to back it up as a potential thing worth mulling on, particularly if he was alive back when there was in fact no Veil (as Yavana in TSG tells us).
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Like I said before Street
too much magic = catastrophe
no more magic = catastrophe
I agree with Solas on many things, but if his intention is to tear down the Veil completely then that's not one of them.
Fair enough.
Although I'd only say "no more magic" is a catastrophe, just because it'd make for a boring game. Technically though, it's not a catastrophe.
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That depends on what a lack of a Veil might do to spirits. Solas' comments indicate that spirits react to the perceptions of those around them, which would account for a lot. Anders back in Awakening didn't have a sense of justice in his heart but vengeance, taking delight in the deaths of his Templar guards and wishing he could kill Templars at will. Back then, though he was joking, it was dark humor (he was a sad clown).
Then there's also the idea that passing through the Veil and into the mortal world has a drastic effect on the nature of a spirit, driving them mad and causing them to become Demons.
I'm not saying I agree with Solas' stance just yet.... but I can't say there isn't some evidence to back it up as a potential thing worth mulling on, particularly if he was alive back when there was in fact no Veil (as Yavana in TSG tells us).
I've stewed over this as well, but there's still a lot unanswered for me to take a solid stance. So far it's a cautionary wait and see with a decent dose of skepticism. I do believe that spirits and demons (and blood magic for that matter) aren't as cut and dry as the Chantry depicts them. That's why I favored research over everything in DA:I.
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