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[Ogillardetta]

LOL  Skyrim was a huge success on consoles as well..360 version sold over 7m copies and even PS3 version sold  over 4m copies thanks to all the hype around the game lol...To say all of Skyrim success is coz of PC mod community is BS...My friend played both Oblivion and Skyrim on 360 for over 200 hours and he enjoyed both games..

 

I completed my first playuthrough of Skyrim without any mods and loved it... 

 

 

But they are still better than DAI NPCs who just stand at one place forever and never respond to you (Not talking about companions but general NPCs)

 

In Skyrim you will never find NPC standing at once place..At night they are inside their house sleeping or eating food with their family and in morning they are working or doing some randoms stuff,  but in DAI, NPCs just stand at one place forever lol...Cassandra is always training in Skyhold ..

SOmetimes I wonder if you even read the rest of the thread you post in or if you do then post the same thing someone else already did for luls. So I will just copypaste my answer then since we seem to enjoy rehashing everything forever:
Yes but its the reason for the continued sales I believe. Personally I would never play an es game on my console since I know how many bugs there usually are and how much I have to solve myself in the console. But I love the games but I still don't think that we should use them as the example of the perfect games.

Edit: Also sour grapes for the playstation crowd that bought it then x)

[Robert Trevelyan]

A plea to Gamers: Please stop comparing every RPG to Skyrim, just because you do not realise there have ever been many other open world RPGs.

 

Personally, if you're going to draw comparisons of DAI to any other title I'd say the aesthetic perhaps draws more off the Witcher 2, if anything. But even that's a stretch.

[AWTEW]

i agree with u OP.

[LordSeeker]

A plea to Gamers: Please stop comparing every RPG to Skyrim, just because you do not realise there have ever been many other open world RPGs.

 

Personally, if you're going to draw comparisons of DAI to any other title I'd say the aesthetic perhaps draws more off the Witcher 2, if anything. But even that's a stretch.

DUDE -  HERE READ THIS AND THEN COMMENT

 

‘Dragon Age Inquisition’ Producer Explains How ‘Skyrim Changed Everything

 

 

http://gamerant.com/...eep-rpg-skyrim/

 

 

In an interview with GamesIndustry.biz, executive producer Mark Darrah explained that while the franchise may only be hitting its third entry, the connection to BioWare’s roots – and the investment by their core fans – makes Dragon Age Inquisition a unique creature. But whatever a studio’s experience (even BioWare’s with the Baldur’s Gate series) with fantasy RPGs, there’s no ignoring that the world has changed since the release of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim; and their team has acted accordingly: -

 

It’s a fresh start a certain degree, I mean this is a franchise with a long pedigree, even though it’s only the third game, and draws upon Bioware’s history much more deeply than the Mass Effect series does. So that always comes with certain expectations, you can only push that so far .Skyrim changed the landscape for role-playing games completely. I mean Oblivion probably sold six million units, basically that range, Skyrim sold 20 million. So that, to some degree, changes everything.

 

 

Now, can you blame fans for comparing both games ?

[jsachun]

World interaction is still quite restricting. Especially interaction with npcs and wild life. Can't sneak around and avoid battles. Combat is forced upon you and can get very annoying at times. No where near as good as a good open world sand box type games when it comes down to freedom of movement. Kinda sad really, would've made the DA sand box experience a lot better. 

[Makkah876]

A plea to Gamers: Please stop comparing every RPG to Skyrim, just because you do not realise there have ever been many other open world RPGs.

 

Personally, if you're going to draw comparisons of DAI to any other title I'd say the aesthetic perhaps draws more off the Witcher 2, if anything. But even that's a stretch.

 

When Bioware themselves said that they're looking at Skyrim for inspiration, what do you expect people to think?

[Rannik]

A plea to Gamers: Please stop comparing every RPG to Skyrim

 

Tell Bioware, not us.

 

“We’re checking [Skyrim] out aggressively. We like it. We’re big admirers of [Bethesda] and the product,” he said. “We think we can do some wonderful things.”

 

[LordSeeker]

Tell Bioware, not us.

 

BioWare: Next Dragon Age Will Draw From Skyrim

http://www.wired.com...2/dragon-age-3/

 

ahahahahaha

 

Bioware openly admits that Skyrim is a better RPG game 

[Robert Trevelyan]

DUDE -  HERE READ THIS AND THEN COMMENT

 

‘Dragon Age Inquisition’ Producer Explains How ‘Skyrim Changed Everything

 

 

http://gamerant.com/...eep-rpg-skyrim/

 

 

Now, can you blame fans for comparing both games ?

 

 

Yes. I can. Skyrim is not the be all and end all.

 

Granted the previous Elder Scrolls games were also Game Changers. Both Morrowind and Oblivion, in particular.

 

But when I look at DAI, bar Haven's snowy exterior, I actually see very little Skyrim in its styling and aesthetic. I see bits of Diabolo. Bits of the Witcher series. But I do not see very much of Skyrim at all.

[Rannik]

But when I look at DAI, bar Haven's snowy exterior, I actually see very little Skyrim in its styling and aesthetic. I see bits of Diabolo. Bits of the Witcher series. But I do not see very much of Skyrim at all.

 

We're not talking aesthetics...

[LordSeeker]

Yes. I can. Skyrim is not the be all and end all.

 

Granted the previous Elder Scrolls games were also Game Changers. Both Morrowind and Oblivion, in particular.

 

But when I look at DAI, bar Haven's snowy exterior, I actually see very little Skyrim in its styling and aesthetic.

Ya visually looks very different from Skyrim but you can't blame us when producer himself compares it with Skyrim

 

 

I see bits of Diabolo. Bits of the Witcher series. But I do not see very much of Skyrim at all.

 

And i see bits of Kingdoms of Amalur and Fable series in DAI than Witcher...Hinterlands reminds me of some areas in Amalur and Lionhead's Fable series..

[wicked cool]

I think bioware needs to add things that will make it have a better open world
-day night cycles where certain creatures come out at night
-more variety in templar/mage enemies-skyrim had bandit leaders etc and it was easier to tell. No comparison between the bandit keep in hinterlands and ones in Skyrim.
-more dungeons. Valamaar is sub par compared to bleak falls barrow
-more traveling merchants/people etc. bleakcoast is barren . Theres not enough taverns/shops
- more memorable bad guys. Dai has a lot less
-storage,trophys,
-traps. Pit traps floor traps

[Robert Trevelyan]

Ya visually looks very different from Skyrim but you can't blame us when producer himself compares it with Skyrim

 

 

And i see bits of Kingdoms of Amalur and Fable series in DAI than Witcher...Hinterlands reminds me of some areas in Amalur and Lionhead's Fable series..

 

 

Oh, definitely. Bits of all sorts of games. I still think it works well as a whole.

 

I just don't see any of the free-roaming, plot ignoring, randomly generated encounters, join a Faction and do whatever you want, mechanics of Skyrim in DAI. Nor the blank slate, no origin, central character.

 

If those were present I think that people would have a valid argument, but they simply aren't.

 

We just live in an age where for many gamers, especially those in their late teens, Skyrim is their only frame of reference.

[Monica21]

Yes. I can. Skyrim is not the be all and end all.

 

Granted the previous Elder Scrolls games were also Game Changers. Both Morrowind and Oblivion, in particular.

 

But when I look at DAI, bar Haven's snowy exterior, I actually see very little Skyrim in its styling and aesthetic. I see bits of Diabolo. Bits of the Witcher series. But I do not see very much of Skyrim at all.

 

Gameplay =/= Aesthetics

[Monica21]

 

We just live in an age where for many gamers, especially those in their late teens, Skyrim is their only frame of reference.

 

Okay. Um, I think the point needs to be made again that the developers were the ones who specifically stated they wanted to create a game that was more free-roaming and the developers are the ones who used Skyrim as an example. This isn't an ass-pull by a couple of forumites.

[Robert Trevelyan]

Okay. Um, I think the point needs to be made again that the developers were the ones who specifically stated they wanted to create a game that was more free-roaming and the developers are the ones who used Skyrim as an example. This isn't an ass-pull by a couple of forumites.

 

 

No. And in fact the whole of the videogames community uses the comparison unfairly too. These days Skyrim has become much like GTA was as the go to comparison for any and EVERY game with any kind of open world element.

 

But in truth the actual mechanics of the Elder Scrolls games (as stated in my previous post) have very rarely been demonstrated in any other series.

[katokires]

Yes. I can. Skyrim is not the be all and end all.

 

Granted the previous Elder Scrolls games were also Game Changers. Both Morrowind and Oblivion, in particular.

 

But when I look at DAI, bar Haven's snowy exterior, I actually see very little Skyrim in its styling and aesthetic. I see bits of Diabolo. Bits of the Witcher series. But I do not see very much of Skyrim at all.

Dudes, wait. Reality hit him so hard he is still stunned. He will eventually realize the truth.

[LordSeeker]

Oh, definitely. Bits of all sorts of games. I still think it works well as a whole.

 

I just don't see any of the free-roaming, plot ignoring, randomly generated encounters, join a Faction and do whatever you want, mechanics of Skyrim in DAI. Nor the blank slate, no origin, central character.

 

 

My problem is with those members who are saying that DAI is a better open world than Skyrim..I want to know what makes DAI, a better open world game than Skyrim?

[Ianamus]

The style and abundance of sidequests in Inquisition was far more similar to what I've seen in countless MMO's than Skyrim.

[Ogillardetta]

My problem is with those members who are saying that DAI is a better open world than Skyrim..I want to know what makes DAI, a better open world game than Skyrim?

I'm not saying that is better (its not at open world DAI is not open world) but I'm saying that imo its more intresting to explore DAI areas than Skyrims but that can be because I'm tired of skyrim since I have ALOT of hours logged on the game.

[Ogillardetta]

Well, I seriously doubt this game is going to sell 20 million copies.  Skyrim didn't sell because it was open world.  It sold because it was a ludicrously good game. 

It was, I would still play it if my graphic card didn't go bonker a while back. But I don't think Skyrim should be the model for npc and character development.

[Ashevajak]

I'll say this for DA:I - it's combat system is way better than Skyrim.

 

Skyrim: eat Vegetable Soup.  Faceroll Spam power attacks until victory.  OR, sneak attacks from range.  Because even undead have vital organs, apparently.  Also kill your first dragon at level 4, just to drive home how ridiculously pathetic the main enemy of the game is. Make sure everything is levelled slightly below the PC, so you never get challenged too hard or have to fight anything legitimately scarier than you. 

DA:I Dragons are actually scary.  Struggle not only against enemies, but the mouse, keyboard and Artificial Stupidity of your party! 

 

I will say Skyrim did exploration better, once the whole "levelled encounters and levelled loot lists" bit was taken out of the equation (star-forged armour made from the blood of a dead god, reinforced with a bound spirit from another world, found in a generic bandit camp, really?), but that is their major strength at Bethesda, the open world setting.

By contast, Bioware's strength is their characters.  I would agree that it is probably better they play to their strengths in the future.  I do like exploring in Inquisition, but it does feel like I'm neglecting my duties as Inquisitor while doing so, and aside from getting past the (thankfully unlevelled) enemies, there feels like little reward in doing so.  Especially with the RNG nature of the loot...maybe if I knew defeating that crazy breach near the Hinterlands farm would always result in, say, a Dagger of Awesomeness and an Axe of Kickass, then I might feel it worthwhile to take them on earlier.

 

But now I'm getting into personal gripes about RPGs and static, delevelled worlds etc which is mostly not relevant here.  But yes.  Unless you poach some Bethesda devs in the near future Bioware, sticking to the character driven stories is probably the better way to go.

[LordSeeker]

It was, I would still play it if my graphic card didn't go bonker a while back. But I don't think Skyrim should be the model for npc and character development.

NPCs are still better in Skyrim lol ...Atleast they respond to you and move around unlike DAI NPCs..lol ..