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A plea to Bioware: Please stop trying to be like Skyrim


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Skyrim: eat Vegetable Soup.  Faceroll Spam power attacks until victory.  OR, sneak attacks from range.  Because even undead have vital organs, apparently.  Also kill your first dragon at level 4, just to drive home how ridiculously pathetic the main enemy of the game is. Make sure everything is levelled slightly below the PC, so you never get challenged too hard or have to fight anything legitimately scarier than you. 

 

I guess you never tried to kill a mammoth and got trampled by it before the giant kicked you into orbit?


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Skyrim is the one of the most overrated games of all time. If not the most.

omg open world!!! gg 10/10. NO.

I rather have an amazing story (Dragon Age Origins) than have a ridiculous open world and NPCs with no personality and boring voice acting.


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It was, I would still play it if my graphic card didn't go bonker a while back. But I don't think Skyrim should be the model for npc and character development.

 

Same here.  I have no issues with Skyrim, but Bethesda sucks at the stuff Bioware is good at.  I don't need Bethesda 2.0.  I don't buy Bioware games for the same reasons I buy Bethesda games.  Buying an A+ Bioware game and an A+ Bethesda game is much more exciting than buying an A+ Bethesda game and B- Bioware trying to be Bethesda game. 


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Skyrim is the one of the most overrated games of all time. If not the most.

omg open world!!! gg 10/10. NO.

I rather have an amazing story (Dragon Age Origins) than have a ridiculous open world and NPCs with no personality and boring voice acting.

 

Not your cup of tea doesn't equal "overrated."  I really don't like shooters, but even I can admit Half-Life 2 and Bioshock are great games.  I didn't have much fun playing either of them, but I get why they are considered great.  


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I guess you never tried to kill a mammoth and got trampled by it before the giant kicked you into orbit?

Oh giant! wonder if its friendly?En route to space: NOPE!


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Skyrim is the one of the most overrated games of all time. If not the most.

omg open world!!! gg 10/10. NO.

I rather have an amazing story (Dragon Age Origins) than have a ridiculous open world and NPCs with no personality and boring voice acting.

 

It's overratted but still great. It suffers because video game hipsters can't take that it's an RPG literally everyone knows about.

 

I of course go with DA:O over Skyrim any day, but Skyrim still does what it does nearly flawlessly. If you want to travel around an open world and do random stuff, you're gonna pull up Skyrim, not DAI. Or GTA V, for that matter.


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I'll say this for DA:I - it's combat system is way better than Skyrim

Ya i kinda agree but thing is DAI combat is also not that great..It's too MMO-ish..Combat is all about managing cool downs...I was bored after few hours but story and characters kept me going....

 

If you have to do tactical combat then do it like Divinity Original sin and if you want to do action-y combat then do it like Shadow of Mordor

 

or

 

Best do it like DARK SOULS :P



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Ya i kinda agree but thing is DAI combat is also not that great..It's too MMO-ish..Combat is all about managing cool downs...I was bored after few hours but story and characters kept me going....

 

If you have to do tactical combat then do it like Divinity Original sin and if you want to do action-y combat then do it like Shadow of Mordor

 

or

 

Best do it like DARK SOULS :P

Its sad that dark souls 2 wasn't has hard or engaging as Dark souls... :/



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Skyrim is the one of the most overrated games of all time. If not the most.

omg open world!!! gg 10/10. NO.

I rather have an amazing story (Dragon Age Origins) than have a ridiculous open world and NPCs with no personality and boring voice acting.

Ya 20million people who bought this game are idiots :lol: 

 

And all gaming sites are paid by Bethesda for choosing Skyrim GOTY in 2011...Overrated games don't get 100+ GOTY awards  :P


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Not your cup of tea doesn't equal "overrated."  I really don't like shooters, but even I can admit Half-Life 2 and Bioshock are great games.  I didn't have much fun playing either of them, but I get why they are considered great.  

Yes, the point is that I don't get why Skyrim is considered great but basically people go crazy over the open world and that's it.

How can people consider this the best RPG ever when we have games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins. I'll never understand it.


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Its sad that dark souls 2 wasn't has hard or engaging as Dark souls... :/

But still it was quite good for a game made by B Team ..Main Mizyaki Team was working on BloodBorne



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Ya 20million people who bought this game are idiots :lol:

 

And all gaming sites are paid by Bethesda for choosing Skyrim GOTY in 2011...Overrated games don't get 100+ GOTY awards  :P

Hey Skyrim still have its downs and we can't be blind for those faults just because alot of people bought it. Story is not skyrims strong point.


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But still it was quite good for a game made by B Team ..Main Mizyaki Team was working on BloodBorne

True that. Bloodborne is awesome can't wait.



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Yes, the point is that I don't get why Skyrim is considered great but basically people go crazy over the open world and that's it.

How can people consider this the best RPG ever when we have games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins. I'll never understand it.

LOL Elder Scrolls games give player unparalleled freedom and allows them to create their own story at their own pace... :)

 

Skyrim gives player so much freedom that player can even break the game completely lol...



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I remember there were many people complaining that the controls of Dark Souls' PC port were bad. How do they compare to Inquisition's?



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I remember there were many people complaining that the controls of Dark Souls' PC port were bad. How do they compare to Inquisition's?

Don't even try to compare them dark souls pc controls where so horrible I can get angry just thinking about them. 



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I remember there were many people complaining that the controls of Dark Souls' PC port were bad. How do they compare to Inquisition's?

Darksouls PC controls are still **** ..Modders fixed the resolution but mouse and keyboard controls are still ****....My friend played with 360 controller and enjoyed it more.....



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Darksouls PC controls are still **** ..Modders fixed the resolution but mouse and keyboard controls are still ****....My friend played with 360 controller and enjoyed it more.....

This. It is unplayable without the mod.



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Yes, the point is that I don't get why Skyrim is considered great but basically people go crazy over the open world and that's it.

How can people consider this the best RPG ever when we have games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins. I'll never understand it.

 

I think people's definition's of "RPG" has become making your ton eat and sleep, basically online LARPing, rather than making any actual character-related decisions.



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Now that I think of it has anyone else noticed that Bioware seems to be violently allergic to formula in every game since DAO?  They had that "Bioware formula" in KotoR, JE, DAO, and ME that basically consisted of "Divide plot into four main hub areas.  Player collects * piece of thing* from each hub area.  Player can go to hub areas in any order they choose.  Once *whole thing* is assembled, player goes epic end game area."

 

Their squad/party interaction formulas have stayed more of less the same, but they've tried a radically different narrative framework in every game they've done since DAO.  I'm glad they are willing to shake things up, but part of me wishes that every single game wasn't treated like an experiment as well.  It makes me feel more like a guinea pig than a customer.  Once in a while, it'd be nice if they just stuck to "we know players like *this* so lets just make a solid game playing on our strengths without getting too fancy about it."  


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I think people's definition's of "RPG" has become making your ton eat and sleep, basically online LARPing, rather than making any actual character-related decisions.

 

The thing is, ironically, really old RPGs were more like this than RPGs of the last 15 years or so.  Old RPGs were much more about builds, strategy, and headcannoning in most cases.

 

Heck, even tabletop I've played is like 90% making rolls for standard interactions to progress plot and only like 10% shaping my character's personality and morals. 



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I think people's definition's of "RPG" has become making your ton eat and sleep, basically online LARPing, rather than making any actual character-related decisions.

Was  DAO your first RPG game? Have you played any RPG game before DAO or DA2 ?



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Well, Bioware, as far as I am concerned: Just never again try to be artful and pull another ME3-Ending. Other than that, I am fine with the general direction of the Dragon Age franchise...

 

Oh, and never make tunnel-level-based RPGs like DAO, DA2 or ME-series again ...and Jade Empire also! No fun, those tunnels, no fun at all if you have tasted the big worlds .. :)


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Well, Bioware, as far as I am concerned: Just never again try to be artful and pull another ME3-Ending. Other than that, I am fine with the general direction of the Dragon Age franchise...

 

Oh, and never make tunnel-level-based RPGs like DAO, DA2 or ME-series again ...and Jade Empire also! No fun, those tunnels, no fun at all if you have tasted the big worlds .. :)

 

One could argue that many of those maps in DA:I are just larger tunnel-levels.



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Was  DAO your first RPG game? Have you played any RPG game before DAO or DA2 ?

My first rpg involved dices, pencils and paper.... damn I feel old now.


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